I would've bet solidly on trump/politics but I guess the inmates here know that's a pretty big nono.

American beer = huge IPAs is such an out of date take. It was true in 2011 but that was ages ago in the beer world.

In defense of Coors light-ish beers, I do a week-long bike ride across Iowa every July (called RAGBRAI, there's like 23,000 people) and after riding 70 miles in 95 degree heat NOTHING tastes better than a cheap light beer. The bubbles or something just cut through the thirst, the watery-ness is refreshing, and your body is screaming for calories. I can see why those beers became dominant on this hot-ass continent before air conditioning. Modern people just don't spend weeks straight in the heat.

A lot of breweries set up free beer stands along the route (because you need a liquor license to sell beer but not to give it away) but when I'm so hot i can't even drink a sour or a porter or an IPA. I do appreciate the gesture tho.

^^ Heh, for some reason this thread got me thinking about Coors light and got some a few nights ago. I was surprised by how good it was for a cheap light beer as I haven't had any in a long time. This is after years of drinking a wide variety of beer with my main being Yeuingling Lager.

Not to mention a snoozefest.

While this post has some valid criticisms, lol at the slavery take.

It took the USA almost a full century to rescind the precedent set by entirety of human history before it with respect to the ownership and mass slaughter of people, and set a new example for the rest of the world to follow.

What a clown thing to say.

Yeah now we export our slavery, slaughter and pollution while our ivory tower shines as a beacon of hope and freedom. You're welcome, ****holers.

ITT We learn that Yanklandian hipsters in their 20s and 30s can in a few months start a brewery and surpass the beers made by craftsmen following in a tradition of centuries.

FWIW I am not a beer snob, I went to watch football coming home at my Farther in Laws yesterday and was handed a Fosters. It was cold, it was beer, I enjoyed it immensely.

Its not just having tasted Yanklandian Beers that make me think most of them dont get the point of the style they are trying to emulate, its also the amount of horrible hot takes I have heard from Yanks about beer. Countless Yanks have told me Pilsner is "over rated" and "bland".

A master work Pilsner is exactly the archytype of sublime balance and elegance where less is so so much more that is going to go whooosh over the Yanklandian palate.

Then they make a Pilsner and add coriander or something to it.

I'm not sure why this is hard for you to believe since we've done it with pretty much every other worthwhile pursuit known to man.

lol at that was our beer scene 8 years ago, you are boasting about being better at beer than countries that made beer before your "country" existed.

Try lol that was our beer scene 800 years ago.

You got fast food and low to mid range dining in general, and customer service, Yanklandia crushes at those things, trying to think of other things, probably Theme parks.

Lol at the level of butthurt from the non Americans piling in here.

Typical kind of comment from a stay home never see the world yanklandian, probably never even heard of a passport.










yes sarcasm

Correct.
Its called "innovation".

Lol at thinking because something has been done a certain way for hundreds of years, that there's no possible way to match or improve upon the process and results.
Sorry OAKie, but you euros have lots of catching up to do in the modern world of beer.

Solid trolling!

Out of curiosity I hit the googles and learned that The Star is home of the Penzance Brewing company established in 2008. One of their beers did win the runner up prize at a local winterfest this year.

What's the example that was set?

Especially racism and buttock size.

By someone not in their 30s and who has had a career making beer in Europe culture land.

loooool so quintessence of Yank.

European beer makers probably tried and gave up on those "innovations" before 1776.

This may be getting in the weeds a bit, but a fun anecdote I heard: at a recent (ie within the past couple years) technical brewing conference in Germany, a presenter gave a talk about how to preserve hop aroma in beers. Adding the hops to the beer after fermentation - ie dry-hopping - was treated as a revelatory concept, eliciting much discussion. Not sure how accurate that anecdote is but there's definitely some truth to the stereotype of the German brewer being rigidly technical to standards that may not necessarily apply any more

I had a brewing instructor in his 30s who had the equivalent of a US PhD, with his dissertation on something like lauter tun geometry, who seemed pretty sharp. But I guess he couldn't make decent beer since he wasn't 40.

LOL, at the beer snobbery in this thread. Beer snobs might be more annoying than music snobs.

Let’s focus on what makes America great: peanut butter and BBQ.

He probably could make decent beer, not sure if he could make a world class superior example of a beer from another countries deeply embedded brewing tradition.

OAF,

That's not surprising. Most Americans are like you and don't actually know much about beer.

OAF,

Beer-making shares a lot of similarities with cooking. Many centuries old traditions/conventional wisdom/best practices in cooking have been shown to be inferior to new methods over the past decade or two thanks to advances in food science and technology. There's nothing magical or special about making beer; it's another process that can be improved through advances in knowledge.

Ohhh zing, kind like the zing you find in typical American IPA, blunt and unsubtle and lacking in wit and brevity.

In before we can make average examples of all types of beers not just IPA's the scene changed X years ago. etc.

What ever year X is, Yanks have been boasting about their beer is the best well before that.

Blo,

Some processes, not all. Even then these innovations can turn out to be highly faddsih, one decade is all about this innovation is the best, next decade those innovations are revised as mistakes and back to the old school is the new school.

Also its not like European brewing traditions stand still, of course they innovate in process, the point is they have a much much deeper cultural understanding of the point of the process, of what is trying to be achieved via that process, of the destination. This is just simply lacking in Yank beer culture, and the comments you and CC3 have made clearly illustrate your lack of comprehension.

Many American beers taste of innovation, like someone has tried a new idea, an experiment. The thing is most of the time it tastes like a failed experiment.