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07-22-2018 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
You say centuries of tradition, whereas it's centuries of competition between breweries to produce better beers.
America is great because it doesn't take us centuries of competition to become the best at something.
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07-22-2018 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
I’m not American.

I totally agree that Europe probably makes the best beer according to your very specific definition and tastes (which is basically whatever Europe makes is your definition of beer).
Australian?
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07-22-2018 , 01:48 PM
Maybe a Yanklandian can parse this through the medium of steak.

Take a good steak and a great sublime master steak.

They both broadly taste of steak. Yet the great master sublime steak does a lot more with that flavour, it does not have a stronger flavour, it has a more complex deeper drumming in the deep flavour, more nuance, more precision. Each note sings alone and yet together.

Its the same with beer. You dont add ingredients to a beer style to make it taste better, you dont turn its most obvious flavour profile upto 11 at the expense of all the others.

You just make it better via process of creation.

Making it better requires artisanal skills not currently widespread amongst Yanklandian brewing hipsters and very widespread amongst brewers in Culture land due them being acquired over generations and handed down thereby.

That is why in Yanklandia they put the fake tits on the beer, blow up its lips with botox and then pronounce it the best in the world.
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07-22-2018 , 01:53 PM
In other words, US craft beers are over egged and lack subtlety and therefore that essential quality of good beer, moreishness.
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07-22-2018 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by daveT
America is great because no matter our proclamations of USA#1, everyone on earth gets angry about it.
No, America is great because it's large and various and resource-rich and allowing of political liberty (advice note: this is an historical comment, conditions may no longer apply, no liability on the poster's part will be admitted if you go there and find yourself in a concentration camp), which drew in a vast influx of people, mostly from Europe, many of whom were talented and free to exercise their talents.

Plus and also, as I remember well even if you kids don't:--



Only Americans have ever walked on another world. And like a lot of people I stood in the garden in my pyjamas (it's not spelt 'pajamas' in proper English) and looked up at the Moon and thought, 'There are Americans up there,' which in those days, despite the Vietnam debacle, was good.



Because America was imaginative and outgoing and daring. And now it's indrawn and fascist and backward, all guns and Bibles and racism, which is a bit of a shame.
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07-22-2018 , 02:21 PM
I actually don’t have a problem with declaring America as great. It clearly is in a lot of ways (both historical and present day).

It’s just equally clear to me that it’s deeply flawed in a lot of other ways (relative to other developed countries) and far from the best place to live for many people.

There’s also the USA#1 view that is usually based on ignorance of what happens in their country and what happens outside of their country. But that’s probably common in most countries, there are just more Americans so you hear it more.
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07-22-2018 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Maybe a Yanklandian can parse this through the medium of steak.

Take a good steak and a great sublime master steak.

They both broadly taste of steak. Yet the great master sublime steak does a lot more with that flavour, it does not have a stronger flavour, it has a more complex deeper drumming in the deep flavour, more nuance, more precision. Each note sings alone and yet together.

Its the same with beer. You dont add ingredients to a beer style to make it taste better, you dont turn its most obvious flavour profile upto 11 at the expense of all the others.

You just make it better via process of creation.

Making it better requires artisanal skills not currently widespread amongst Yanklandian brewing hipsters and very widespread amongst brewers in Culture land due them being acquired over generations and handed down thereby.

That is why in Yanklandia they put the fake tits on the beer, blow up its lips with botox and then pronounce it the best in the world.
So you're saying the best beer is made with Japanese cattle?
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07-22-2018 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
America is great because it doesn't take us centuries of competition to become the best at something.
Since Britons discovered the law of gravity and the circulation of the blood, and developed steam power, antiseptics, anaesthetics and antibiotics, and invented vaccination, railways, radio, broadcast television, jet engines, radar, computers, cash machines and the World Wide Web, American excellence is necessarily limited to certain fields of endeavour previously mentioned. Basically Casablanca, the Peanuts comic strip and Project Apollo. That type thing.

American beer? No, I don't think so.
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07-22-2018 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
They both broadly taste of steak. Yet the great master sublime steak does a lot more with that flavour, it does not have a stronger flavour, it has a more complex deeper drumming in the deep flavour, more nuance, more precision. Each note sings alone and yet together.
Oh, I get it now....

One USA#1 sublime steak coming right up!











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07-22-2018 , 02:58 PM
No ketchup?
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07-22-2018 , 02:59 PM
By smothering a steak with all that **** sauce you've inadvertently made the opposite case you're trying to make, and if your steak was any good (like Aberdeen Angus) you wouldn't need to tenderise it.
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07-22-2018 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
America is great because it doesn't take us centuries of competition to become the best at something.
How did you guys get on at this year's World Cup?
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07-22-2018 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
No ketchup?
I have it available for the side of frenched fries. You can use mayo too.
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07-22-2018 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
Because America was imaginative and outgoing and daring. And now it's indrawn and fascist and backward, all guns and Bibles and racism, which is a bit of a shame.
I just shot my Bible because the cover is black. USAUSAUSA.
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07-22-2018 , 04:16 PM
What is a cop from the south?
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07-22-2018 , 04:21 PM
I don't think there is an answer to who makes the best beer, I think brewers make beer to suit the national taste. But it reminds me of reading an old thread on here where USA#1ers were arguing they made the best pizza. And some americans probably think they invented the pizza.
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07-22-2018 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MrCrown
How did you guys get on at this year's World Cup?
I was referring to important things.

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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
Since Britons discovered the law of gravity and the circulation of the blood, and developed steam power, antiseptics, anaesthetics and antibiotics, and invented vaccination, railways, radio, broadcast television, jet engines, radar, computers, cash machines and the World Wide Web, American excellence is necessarily limited to certain fields of endeavour previously mentioned. Basically Casablanca, the Peanuts comic strip and Project Apollo. That type thing.

American beer? No, I don't think so.
This has nothing to do with what I posted.


Another thing we're great at is making Non Americans butthurt.

Last edited by de captain; 07-22-2018 at 04:36 PM.
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07-22-2018 , 10:23 PM
"Only Americans have ever walked on another world. And like a lot of people I stood in the garden in my pyjamas (it's not spelt 'pajamas' in proper English) and looked up at the Moon and thought, 'There are Americans up there,' which in those days, despite the Vietnam debacle, was good."

This was patriotism and stupid. There's no reason to race the russians to the moon and spending a bunch of money that could be used to save/improve lives. But that's what people thought was important and the americans won a very important race to a place we never think is worth to go to, anymore. No one else goes there because there's no point. America doesn't want to go there either.
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07-22-2018 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1

Take a good steak and a great sublime master steak.

They both broadly taste of steak. Yet the great master sublime steak does a lot more with that flavour, it does not have a stronger flavour, it has a more complex deeper drumming in the deep flavour, more nuance, more precision. Each note sings alone and yet together.
What the **** are you talking about?
You are bad at using words.
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07-22-2018 , 10:46 PM
Of all things call a waste of resources, NASA is possibly the most net-positive government program ever created. Hell, you can write out that claim and have the world see it thanks to NASA (in part).

The Apollo program generated a lot of inventions that are still in wide use today. Yes, it was a political thing at the time, but that doesn't take away from all the things the space program ended up creating.

But I guess the technology behind CAT scans and MRIs, improved home insulation, pacemakers, shoes, eye glasses, cordless drills, smoke detectors, firefighting suits, and so on didn't improve lives at all and thus Apollo was a total wash.

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/f...n_ApolloFS.pdf
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07-22-2018 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rakemeplz
"Only Americans have ever walked on another world. And like a lot of people I stood in the garden in my pyjamas (it's not spelt 'pajamas' in proper English) and looked up at the Moon and thought, 'There are Americans up there,' which in those days, despite the Vietnam debacle, was good."

This was patriotism and stupid. There's no reason to race the russians to the moon and spending a bunch of money that could be used to save/improve lives. But that's what people thought was important and the americans won a very important race to a place we never think is worth to go to, anymore. No one else goes there because there's no point. America doesn't want to go there either.
I think you're missing the part about the military implications of the time period. This was the real reason all that happened.
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07-23-2018 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
By smothering a steak with all that **** sauce you've inadvertently made the opposite case you're trying to make, and if your steak was any good (like Aberdeen Angus) you wouldn't need to tenderise it.
We are apparently pretty much better than average in perceiving this thing called "sarcasm" here.

In reality, we have the full gamut of quality of steak. From basically the equivalent of shoe leather (the poor have to eat something) to Aberdeen Angus (we just call the breed Angus,* but it is the exact same breed)) American Wagyu (a cross-breeding of Aberdeen Angus and Wagyu) to Wagyu. We also have some other breeds. We've been actively raising Aberdeen Angus here since the 1800s.

We also have the full gamut of chefs and home cooks, just like everywhere else has. Some of our ilk can prepare food bad enough that you'd need all the sauces of the world to choke it down. Others do a fine job.

*we're not so much into the origin designation protection thing.** I'm sure the grass and grain is excellent in the fine petroleum, mining and fishing village of Aberdeen but I doubt the petroleum and mining contributes much to the taste over the grass and grain that are available in other large villages.
We've split it up between Black Angus and Red Angus for some unknown reason. I guess this matters if you are going to chow down on the fur.

**I'm going to assume that you don't call potatoes "the turnips of the Americas" or tomatoes "that fruit from the Americas."
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07-23-2018 , 12:46 AM
jalfrezi,

America is great because we get the joke
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07-23-2018 , 01:31 AM
I love to lolUSA#Я like everyone, but the posters against the lol make me want to cheer for them
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07-23-2018 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon
I just shot my Bible because the cover is black. USAUSAUSA.
A++
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