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10-22-2018 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gamboneee
being a single panel wouldnt effect where the bottom of the door is tho. it MIGHT let part of the door come in lower, but if the bottom hit it, it'd be the same. if the hatch were up, it shouldnt matter


Nfw man. Geometry.



ETA*Disappointed.
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10-22-2018 , 11:31 PM
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10-22-2018 , 11:31 PM
LMAO @ mspaint!

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Originally Posted by de captain
This is what I thought the situation was from Johnny's description. Had the van actually been parked as shown in your MSpaint, where the door would have hit it even with the hatch closed, it would be 100% the van owner's fault. Discuss
I have the opposite take, that would make it more likely to be the garage door closer's fault imo. For example, imagine that the van were only parked halfway inside the garage, and closing the garage door would bring the door crashing down onto the roof of the van. Clearly the door closer's fault.

In a case like 27's mspaint, there's some ambiguity, and I can see some people blaming the van driver for not entering completely and letting the back stick out a little bit where it might get hit. But it's still on the door closer to look and make sure of that before closing the door imo. Especially if it's at someone else's house. For example, I have different rules/protocols in my house that some others might not know, and other people have rules/protocols in their houses that I didn't know until informed. So if you're going to do something in someone else's house, it's on you to ask and make sure imo, or it's your responsibility.
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10-22-2018 , 11:38 PM
The door closer, while petite and hot, still bases their action on an irrational fear of leaving a garage door open for what was obviously a couple minutes because they had a crappy bike stolen a decade before. That is on the freakishly vertical door closer.
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10-22-2018 , 11:38 PM
I mean it was never in dispute that it was my wife's fault. I realize the clickbait title might make some people doubt that was my position (not naming any LarryLegends)...it was really that I just would not be asking for money in their situation even if entitled to it. Unless it was something that demanded repair like a cracked window or the like, I would not even fix it. If the roles were reversed I would not accept the money if they insisted.
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10-22-2018 , 11:45 PM
as someone who has had **** stolen from their garage more than decade ago, I understand militant victim hood garage door Nazism
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10-22-2018 , 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by patron
LMAO @ mspaint!



I have the opposite take, that would make it more likely to be the garage door closer's fault imo. For example, imagine that the van were only parked halfway inside the garage, and closing the garage door would bring the door crashing down onto the roof of the van. Clearly the door closer's fault.

In a case like 27's mspaint, there's some ambiguity, and I can see some people blaming the van driver for not entering completely and letting the back stick out a little bit where it might get hit. But it's still on the door closer to look and make sure of that before closing the door imo. Especially if it's at someone else's house. For example, I have different rules/protocols in my house that some others might not know, and other people have rules/protocols in their houses that I didn't know until informed. So if you're going to do something in someone else's house, it's on you to ask and make sure imo, or it's your responsibility.
Yeah, I thought the "discuss" would give it away. While I wouldn't say it's exactly the opposite, I'd say it was almost all Mrs. T's fault. Playing devil's advocate you could argue that no person should be expected to foresee the villain would park their car under the garage door. Whether the hatch was open is then irrelevant because she shouldn't have parked there. Mrs. T can't be at fault for closing a door on something any rational person wouldn't expect to be under the door.
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10-23-2018 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Alobar
as someone who has had **** stolen from their garage more than decade ago, I understand militant victim hood garage door Nazism
I had a Takara Outlaw stolen from my garage in my youth that I am still traumatized by, yet I don't think I have ever closed somebody else's garage door because of it.




Man, I loved that bike. Found out some scrub I knew stole it and actually exacted my revenge on his first born some 30 years later because the opportunity fell right in my lap and I'm not really right in the head. Still would never dream of closing his garage door though.
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10-23-2018 , 12:32 AM
Must tell 30-year-in-the-making-revenge-on-the-first-born story obv!
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10-23-2018 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Nfw man. Geometry.



ETA*Disappointed.
see, this is not only perfect but also proves my point. if you go with a multi paneled door, the impact point will be the same. it would just be curled up slightly but still on the straight down part of the track

only difference is like if you have a kayak on top, the angle of a single panel door will hit lower as it goes around the curve, but the base of both are going to be the same
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10-23-2018 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by patron
Must tell 30-year-in-the-making-revenge-on-the-first-born story obv!
Ok if you insist!:

I was scouting a youth football team in my old home town with a couple other coaches and who do I see in the stands but this ******* who stole my bike some 30 years prior. He was a little weasel growing up and was still the same little weasel, just in adult form. We say hello and go back to what we were doing: me scouting the team his kid was on and him cheering on his son. After I get back to the other guys I was with I say "You see that guy I was just talking to? He stole my ****ing bmx bike out of my garage when I was younger and chopped it up and sold the parts." They're like hahaha wtf lololol.

Then this little RB runs a sweep and the bike thief starts going nuts "Go Jimmy go! WOOOO!" or whatever the **** his name was. A wave of glorious ice-cold vindication washed over me as I knew what then had to be done.

Two weeks later I just punished him the entire game with my best D players. Just crushing him play after play after play.
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10-23-2018 , 01:07 AM
Ouch! Story delivered. Sins of the father indeed.
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10-23-2018 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by gamboneee
see, this is not only perfect but also proves my point. if you go with a multi paneled door, the impact point will be the same. it would just be curled up slightly but still on the straight down part of the track

only difference is like if you have a kayak on top, the angle of a single panel door will hit lower as it goes around the curve, but the base of both are going to be the same
No, no, no, no....depicted is the point where the door got stuck, not the point of impact.

27, good story.

My bike that was stolen was a near 20-year-old Gary Fisher that my dad handed down to me. He is also miniature. After it got swiped he was able to find the serial number in an old email in his archives so I reported it to the popo and I watched craigslist for it for a few weeks. About 2 weeks later, there was my damn bike with different handlebars on craigslist. I called the guy to set up a sting, but he told me he just bought it and for some reason, he seemed legit. When I told him mine had been stolen and it was the exact make, model, color, and size (smaller than most), and that I had the serial number he thought i was trying to scam him at first, but relented and sent me a pic of the serial number. It was not my ****ing bike but was within 20 on the production line.
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10-23-2018 , 01:35 AM
Obv he photoshopped the pic. Sorry you got played Johnny.
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10-23-2018 , 01:41 AM
Johnny,

You may want to work on your reading!

I thought asking you for money was a psychopathic move on the part of the couple who had the minivan.

In terms of the conclusion here I think it's most likely any place the car is brought acts bewildered and then buffs the scratch out. Possibly in a manner in which the van owners are then not charged and embarrassed to mention it to you.
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10-23-2018 , 02:10 AM
My wife's ex put in a false insurance claim for theft, due to the garage door being left open. He pawned or CL'd the ****.

She routinely cites this as a reason to keep it closed.
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10-23-2018 , 02:17 AM
She's afraid to tempt you.
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10-23-2018 , 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
In terms of the conclusion here I think it's most likely any place the car is brought acts bewildered and then buffs the scratch out. Possibly in a manner in which the van owners are then not charged and embarrassed to mention it to you.
Larry,

You have a much higher opinion of body shops than other people itt do.
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10-23-2018 , 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Minimalist
If only you lived in the Netherlands, this would never be a problem.

https://stuffdutchpeoplelike.com/201...ance-policies/
this is one of the most bazaar things Ive seen
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10-23-2018 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Alobar
as someone who has had **** stolen from their garage more than decade ago, I understand militant victim hood garage door Nazism
Only if you live in the inner city suburbs.
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10-23-2018 , 10:59 AM
<dutch personal liability insurance>
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Originally Posted by Victor
this is one of the most bazaar things Ive seen
In Usa#1 it's an umbrella policy. Know several people who have had one at various times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella_insurance
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10-23-2018 , 11:05 AM
What's worse, installing a lathe in a living room, or closing someone else's garage door on their van?
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10-23-2018 , 11:38 AM
A lathe wood work for most instances but closing the garage door only scratches the surface.
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10-23-2018 , 01:29 PM
The wifeacore and I have had an umbrella policy for the last ~7 years or so; relatively inexpensive, and gives a little peace of mind in case something catastrophic happens for which we could be held liable.
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10-23-2018 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NhlNut
<dutch personal liability insurance>


In Usa#1 it's an umbrella policy. Know several people who have had one at various times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella_insurance
I don't think all umbrella policies work the same as the weird Dutch thing. I have an umbrella policy to increase liability insurance because it was cheaper than increasing both car and house separately. But (as far as I know) it doesn't cover me for crazy **** like spilling wine at someone else's house.
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