This is a myth. It is the UV rays in sunlight that skunk a beer, not mild temperature changes. Every beer you buy has already gone through a multitude of temperature variances on the way from the brewery to your fridge.

^you are correct, it's not the skunk taste but it can slightly oxidize the beer.

when i mean warm i'm talking leaving it in your trunk for a week during the summer...

different beers have different properties

wheat beers tend to have the shortest shelf life
probably followed by lagers depending on how hoppy they are and the alc content
ales especially hoppy high alcohol ales last a very long time as in years
barley wines last even longer

UV rays are really bad for bottled beer but especially green bottles

God, its like everything rubbrband just posted is a kernel of truth wrapped up in myths and falsehoods.

There is nothing intrinsic to wheat that makes it prone to off-flavors more than barley. Alcohol is a preservative (Lord Nelson, anyone?), the majority of beers using a significant amount of wheat are lower in alcohol, thus having a shorter shelf life. Its a heuristic that breaks down very quickly with a minimal education. A weizenbock will age just fine, thank you.

There's nothing about lager yeast that makes it age worse than ale yeast, its just that its so much cleaner that flaws will show through much more readily. So yeah, an American pilsner will SHOW age first if its brewed poorly. An exceptional bock will age much more gracefully than a crappy American pale ale.

Don't try to cellar an imperial IPA for a few years. Just drink it. Now. Trust me.

As far as I know there really isn't one. I think stouts were invented when someone brewed a porter and decided to call it a "stout" instead.

Have you had other Witbier's that you like? They definitely have a somewhat weird taste, especially the more true to style ones, and in my experience people seem to either love them or hate them.

I hope one day that I'm lucky enough to put Deschuttes and common in the same sentence. In Philly we just got Deschuttes for the first time last year and I loved it!

Liked the Black Butte but to me the Hop in the Dark and Obsidian Stout were my favorites.

Lolol if el d's store link blows you away I feel sorry for you.

That's a pretty cool story. I'd imagine if you drank a beer right after the yes answer to said proposal that it'd taste pretty damn good too .

I'm drinking a few beers tonight, Old Chub by Oskar Blues which is pretty mediocre overall, Moo Hoo Stout by Terrapin which is above average, and Sam Adams Imperial White which is mehhhh.

Terrapin also has out their Wake N Bake Stout (coffee and oatmeal) which is pretty damn good. If you live in southeast usa you should be able to find some.

^truth. Very very few IPAs can handle even 6 months of aging, more less 2-3 years. Hell, you even take something like Pliny the Elder and you have to catch it in the first 6 weeks of life or else it falls off a cliff.

Just finished splitting a bottle of this with a friend. It seemed like it could profit from some aging (a little sweet, slightly too medicinal), but it was truly excellent. For the price ($12.50 in MD), this was a great deal for a 10.5% beer that measured up to the alcohol content.

And I'm Catholic, so I'm happy to support the monks.

calling me out for myths and falsehoods and then repeating what i said all be it in a much more arrogant uppity manner isn't really going to help people who asked questions learn about beer.

oot would be a much better place with out all the know it all tool bags who jump all over every poster who isn't a regular.

Drinking Ruddles Best last night at ~£1.15 a pint. That's about the same as I was selling Ruddles County for when I worked in a pub 25 years ago.

Very nice it was too.

where in London do you still get a £1.15 pint?

Meh, probably misunderstanding tone because it's the internet and all. I read it as you were giving some statements that tended to be true and RDH was going more in depth on those statements for further clarification.



IMO.

^yea, that was my take as well. RDH has always been very helpful and knowledgeable

my bar has shut off the regs from discounts, it just keeps getting more expensive to drink outside of my house. i am not liking this change at all- end short rant

Brew your own!

Had a Westmalle Tripel yesterday. While it's a good beer and I can't think of a reason why anyone could think it's bad, I really don't get how some people go "ZOMG GOAT BEER" over it.

I'm just frustrated because I am being corrected every other statement I make and half the time they are wrong. I wasn't calling out him alone but telling me everything I say is "wrapped in myths and falsehoods" without giving any examples is insulting and not really helping. I'm sorry the last thing want to do is bicker. I'll leave it at that.

My friend is bartending at the local taphouse tonight. They have a rotating beer list so I have no clue what's on tap but with all this stout porter talk I'm in the mood for a founders breakfast stout.

So you admit that 25% of all your statements are wrong!


Joking, don't get too bent out of shape.

I was in the Honolulu airport on a layover and I had Kona Brewery's Koco Brown, made with coconut. It was sweet but not overly sweet, very, very delicious.

I've had a couple different stouts/breakfast stouts and remember always really enjoying them. I knew it was similar to a porter but didn't realize how close they are. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll keep it in mind and hopefully eventually report back with a review.