while an alcoholic beverage generally needs alcohol to provide the flavor depth, alcohol level doesn't exactly = important to making it taste great. The same works with beer as it does wine, and something being high alcohol can lead to the beverage being out of balance.

You keep making comments on things that you say you don't know anything about. You were shown wrong on what you said about prices at stores as well. You may just want to stop with this conversation

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well in that case you need to go drink some sam adams cuz it's clearly not in the same category as all those other crap lagers.

Sam Adams isn't what it was when it first came out. The winter lager was very good when they first released it (actually all of the seasonals were) and it has declined greatly over the years, for example. I can understand why people lump it with macros. However, their Imperial series are good, but at those prices there are much better choices at $10 a four-pack.

This statement is beyond nitty

I can't really understand why sam adams boston lager would be lumped in with teh macros mostly because there is a very clear quality difference between it and stuff like bud and mgd. Never mind the fact that he tried saying that sam adams is just another macrobrew.

it's not because it's very true

Amazing, especially after a big meal

Guys,

This is my local beer store. Be jealous:

http://www.citybeerstore.com/beer-store/beers
http://www.citybeerstore.com/beer-store/menu

This is my go to store.

http://vitiwinelagers.com/beerstore

My favorite has been the driftwood white bark ale, when they have it in. I doubt any of you have ever heard of it.

ughhh. i hate canada.

stinky,

And if you're into Belgians, plenty of places to stop by like this: http://latrappecafe.com/beer-list/

Yeah, I was thinking more like Bud American Ale and not MGD light or whatever.

Uhhh no? If you answer yes to this you are delusional and probably a snob.

Wow that is awesome. My local beer store has a pretty good selection but this looks superior.

i'm not really into belgian stuff, but knowing places like that exist tilts me. there's nothing remotely like any of that in canada.

this is the standard lineup of beers (on tap) at a typical ontario bar with "decent" selection:

1. 3-4 different macro lagers or pilsners that all taste the same (molson canadian, labatt blue, etc)
2. a light beer or two (same as 1 but watered down)
3. a crappy wheat beer (keith's white or rickard's white)
4. a "red" beer - basically another macro lager with some caramel colour/flavour added (again keith's or rickard's)
5. keith's IPA. this is the absolute worst part about canadian bars. i don't know how keith's is brewed but it tastes almost exactly like all the crappy canadian lagers. it's actually considered somewhat of a girly beer. it doesn't have the hoppy taste associated with IPAs at all. but since they call it an IPA the bars can check that off their list and hence they don't bother to get any real IPAs. (i'm an IPA drinker so this makes me very angry)
6. 3-4 imports. 80%+ of these also going to be ****ty lagers (heineken, stella artois, sapporo, etc). there might also be a guinness or something else crappy to make it look like they have variety.
7. 2-3 "premium" domestic beers. occasionally some of these will be something decent, but mostly they're just more expensive versions of category 1 (mill street organic lager, for example)


this prob sounds like i'm exaggerating, but i'm really not. 90%+ of bars will have like half this selection.

hipsters seen in this thread.

I had this once. I will drink almost anything, but I had to put this down after half a can. Repugnant.

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haha A+ montecore

stinky: FWIW, SF is a very good beer city (a number of bars with a lot of taps and ****loads of bottles, plus various brewpubs etc), but most places in the US bars aren't all that better than what you describe when it comes to beer selection. One nice thing about SF bars is even crappy ones generally have Sierra Nevada and Anchor Steam on tap, plus often one local microbrew.

Montecore: Just to be clear, the first one I posted was a beer store with both retail and bar. The second one with all the belgians is a beer bar, not retail.

Exact reply I was looking for after seeing the dogwhistle one in another thread.

El D,

Thanks for the clarification. There are a few bars with decent belgian selections out here in Indy, but I miss some of the Belgian beer gardens in Philly (especially Eulogy).

El D, is having your own forum not good enough anymore? You have to come here and brag to us mortals now?

We get it, you're too good for everybody. But thanks for reminding us all.

uhg, idk why i'm even defending my statement at this point

I said "try hoegarden or the love or about any other heffe on the market. it will be much better."


at no point did i call bluemoon a hefe, i was simply saying if you like bluemoon most hefeweizens are far superior.

if you want to get really nitty the love by star hill is a german style hefeweizen and not a belgian

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