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Old 07-07-2018, 11:10 AM   #26
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

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jeezushchrist-on-a-popsicle-stick! This guy makes a 6th grade graduate of a public school in backwoods southern US locales seem like a Rhodes Scholar.
Pretty sure his English is better than your Romanian though..

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Well if Greece is not an option for me what countries in the EU still play poker in casinos?
Almost all of them? There's poker in the big four of Germany, France, England, Italy and also in lots of smaller countries like Spain, Austria, Czech Republic among others.

What languages do you speak other than Romanian and English? That's definitely a relevant factor.
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Old 07-07-2018, 11:24 AM   #27
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

What about Malta?Well I wanted Greece so now I'm learning greek at beginner level.I don't have other books and these are all the languages I know.
Guess I'll have to study a lot if I want to choose this career...I thought it will be easy but it isn't.
I forgot to ask about the basic math that is calculated in seconds.Is that true?Do you have to calculate everything in your head in a couple of seconds?At least that is what I heard from reading other forums.I mean do you need to be a fast thinker in this job?What happens if you can't calculate that fast and you have to calculate another 5 seconds?
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:16 PM   #28
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

You have to have a basic competency in math. Mostly addition and subtraction, some multiplication and division. A legitimate dealer training school can help with shortcuts of poker math as long as you have the basics in normal math. I have no idea what dealer training is like in Europe however.

You certainly could not become a casino supervisor without any working experience in a casino in the first place. You have to crawl before you can walk.

As for your questions about what casino life is like, that's a tough question for me because I don't get to casinos outside the US. I highly doubt that dealers are spit on and humiliated though. Dealers, at least in the US, do have to have what we call a "thick skin" because when gamblers lose, they like to blame anybody but themselves. But it is only allowed to go so far.

As for pay, again hard for me to answer because it's a completely different market. In the US, casinos pay dealers a base wage, and then the rest of what they make is from tips. Where I work, tips are roughly 75% of their income. Every state has different laws that govern how the casino handles compensation of dealers. I'm sure different European countries have different laws in the same fashion.

Hope that answers some of your questions.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:28 PM   #29
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

So in a poker pot you need to be fast at multiplication?That is what I asked.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:37 PM   #30
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Yes, Malta would be an option but it's a small island with only 3 casinos and therefore a limited number of casino jobs.

But Malta has a ton of other jobs in the gambling industry, not sure how many of those are open for people with only a high school diploma though.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:45 PM   #31
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

What about the math in roulette?Can it be hard if you don't know anything about bets?
I mean I never studied it and I don't know how to calculate the odds in there.
Can someone explain to me if you need probabilities to calculate the ins and outs in the roulette game?
I tried to google it and some of them showed me about combinatorics.I don't understand!
Could someone explain to me clearly how this math works in here?

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Old 07-07-2018, 01:20 PM   #32
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

Slow down wolly. It makes no difference for us to tell you what you need to "study". Do some research on casinos in area where you can move and inquire about dealer training. They should judge you on basic math skills and then will teach you how to be proficient and use your skills in poker.

Yes, poker can be a fast game for a dealer, especially a new one. There is some multiplication involved but not enough that it should scare you. I'll repeat, dealer school will teach you everything you need to know.

Roulette, on the other hand, has much more and more advanced math that poker. By a longshot. There are shortcuts to be learned there as well, which is what the training is for. Probably 60% of roulette training is about how to handle payouts.
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Old 07-07-2018, 01:26 PM   #33
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By advanced math you mean highschool math?I don't understand what advanced means in your post.

Is this the kind of math you will use in roulette?
http://probability.infarom.ro/roulette.html

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Old 07-07-2018, 01:56 PM   #34
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

Read Aurora Tom's post five times SLOWLY. Then do what he suggests in that post.

You are limited to three more posts in this thread today and five posts per day after that starting tomorrow. That limitation might change if your posts become more coherent and useful.
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:07 PM   #35
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Read Aurora Tom's post five times SLOWLY. Then do what he suggests in that post.

You are limited to three more posts in this thread today and five posts per day after that starting tomorrow. That limitation might change if your posts become more coherent and useful.
I just wanted some information.Am I asking too much?
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Old 07-07-2018, 03:28 PM   #36
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Ok @Rapini I shouldn't ask this at all.Thanks for all the help I could get.I'm sorry that I didn't contribute to the forum but I was curious about this job and I wanted comments about the life of a dealer in a casino.I am a new user so I don't understand what you want from me.
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Old 07-07-2018, 04:31 PM   #37
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I will stop replying if someone could tell me if this is an unqualified work.My friends told me that this is an unqualified work and that you don't have a lot of chances to promote.Is that true?
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Old 07-07-2018, 06:27 PM   #38
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I don't understand what you want from me.
Try starting with small, specific questions instead of broad, general questions.

Bad: "I heard you can make a lot of money. Is that true?"

Good: "I heard you can make 500 euros a year. Is that true?"

Bad: "What do I need to know to be a dealer?"

Good: "Will the math I need as a dealer be more complex than what I need as a player?"

Familiarize yourself with the games, and show evidence that you've put in at least as much time researching on your own as you spend posting here.

Nobody's going to hold your hand and lead you to the Promised Land.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:01 PM   #39
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

Ok,is the math more complex than highschool?I never learned math the logical way and I memorized formulas from statistics and probabilities without thinking them
Can a good dealer learn roulette math by memorization and not by logic?I mean when I looked at my link I can't understand what that means.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:06 PM   #40
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I know nothing about roulette math and I don't even know if I will stand a chace from my level of knowledge.How can I understand casino math more easier?Is there a shortcut?
I really don't want to read a roulette math book or any casino book like a foreign language.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:21 PM   #41
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I'm asking this because I don't want to regret that I choosed this job instead of something else.
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Old 07-07-2018, 07:40 PM   #42
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Does anyone know anything about the roulette math or not?
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Old 07-07-2018, 10:31 PM   #43
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Does anyone know anything about the roulette math or not?
You only need to know payout tables for Roulette. 35:1, 17:1, etc.

The math is simple and easy. You really need to go to a dealer school in order to learn how to apply it to dealing.

Also, some of your posts are being made at 2 or 3AM here in the states so people aren't online to answer you as quickly as you want. Give people 24 hours to respond to your questions, and then ask more if you need more clarification.
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Old 07-08-2018, 12:01 AM   #44
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He has to wait until Monday anyway: he's posted 5 times already on Sunday (his time). So hopefully the break will help him to collect his thoughts.
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Old 07-08-2018, 04:00 AM   #45
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

This is rapidly becoming my favorite thread.
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Old 07-08-2018, 11:54 AM   #46
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This is rapidly becoming my favorite thread.
It does have some "TwoRooks - My Home Casino" potential.
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Old 07-08-2018, 12:12 PM   #47
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Yes i would be happy to have you dealing on my roulette table near me might have a chance of winning. Your posts are unbearable for the most part. Asking super basic questions about roulette math and such.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Roulette+math
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Old 07-08-2018, 05:07 PM   #48
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He has to wait until Monday anyway: he's posted 5 times already on Sunday (his time). So hopefully the break will help him to collect his thoughts.
I have never seen a clock called on a poster before.

'You now have 5 posts to make sense, or your thread will be ruled dead'
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Old 07-08-2018, 09:42 PM   #49
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

American roulette (the one with 0 and 00) is very easy to deal. There are tricks you can use to speed up your calculation (memorizing picture bets, and common bets). Learn your 35 and 17 times-tables up to at least 25.

If you're talking about single zero roulette the hard part is the racetrack.
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Old 07-09-2018, 08:18 AM   #50
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When I specified roulette I meant Europe roulette and not American Roulette.
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