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Old 07-06-2018, 09:08 PM   #1
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What career(s) should I pursue? 19/m/Romania

Cliffs from the thread up until the move from CCP to OOT:

OP is a 19-yr-old Romanian who initially wanted to know more about casino dealing and whether it could lead to a stable and lucrative career. He now has determined that dealing will not provide him with the lifestyle and advancement opportunities he desires, so I thought moving to OOT would be the best move at this point.

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I want to become a dealer but I don't know what skills are required for this job. Do I need to know a lot of math?I'm good at basic math but not advanced math.Also I'm a non-smoking person and when I see someone smoking I get sick.Is this the right job for me or should I choose something else.I have read most of the forums but none of them told me the reality of how life in a casino would be.
I would appreciate opinions,comments,etc.
Why do dealers earn 5...10$ from the start?I mean don't you earn a lot of money by this job from all games?

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Old 07-06-2018, 09:16 PM   #2
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

Where?

If you're in the US you will mostly be relying on tips for income. Math is just addition and memorizing breakpoints for rake.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:25 PM   #3
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But I read somewhere that dealers make a lot of money.Does that mean that it is based on tipping?Why?Don't you get a bank of money from your salary if you have experience?

Uh no one?Am I talking to myself?I want advices not 100 views.

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Old 07-06-2018, 09:52 PM   #4
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But I read somewhere that dealers make a lot of money.Does that mean that it is based on tipping?Why?Don't you get a bank of money from your salary if you have experience?
What is a lot of money in your opinion? It's a job in the service industry, not CEO of the casino. You don't need a college degree or years of training to get a job.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:54 PM   #5
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

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I want to become a dealer but I don't know what skills are required for this job.
You'll be taught the necessary skills in Dealer school which you'll have to pay for yourself.

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Do I need to know a lot of math?
Basic math. Since you're in a poker thread, you'll need to know how to add two numbers together, typically both numbers are divisible by 5 or are less than 50. You'll also need to know how to multiple numbers divisible by 5 by 3 and then add another number or numbers to them (also divisible by 5). You'll need to expand your memorization of your multiple tables, generally knowing every number from 1-20 multiplied by 1-5, along with 35, 45, and 75 up to at least 6. This stuff comes naturally though.

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Also I'm a non-smoking person and when I see someone smoking I get sick.
I hear this is getting better. I'm sure your body will get used to the second hand smoke.

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Is this the right job for me or should I choose something else.
???

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Why do dealers earn 5...10$ from the start?I mean don't you earn a lot of money by this job from all games?
I don't understand your question. Dealers get tips which can usually push them over $20 an hour. In high end casinos I've heard they can easily make $30 or more.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:05 PM   #6
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What is a lot of money in your opinion? It's a job in the service industry, not CEO of the casino. You don't need a college degree or years of training to get a job.
From 500 to 1000 and something.

Well I saw a salary page and I thought that dealers earn more money than tips.
@DisRuptive1 isn't the salary higher than the tip?Why do you need tips for this job?Can't you earn decently from your salary?

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Old 07-06-2018, 10:09 PM   #7
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From 500 to 1000 and something.
Per....????

Hour?
Day?
Week?
Year???
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:22 PM   #8
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Per....????

Hour?
Day?
Week?
Year???
Year.

The lowest was 1249.Is this true or fake?

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Old 07-06-2018, 10:30 PM   #9
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The lowest was 1249.Is this true or fake?
It's probably true that most dealers make more than $1,249 per year.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:30 PM   #10
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Also it shows that the basic salary in euro is 269.How can you say that you live by tips when you get this huge sum?

In another job I found someone that pays you 800 euros per month.Now I am getting confused....

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Old 07-06-2018, 10:33 PM   #11
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269 euros per year is just barely above the poverty line, I think.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:33 PM   #12
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Now I am getting confused....
It seems you started that way.

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Old 07-06-2018, 10:33 PM   #13
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

269 Euros is a huge sum? In a year? I think you might be a little bit confused..
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:37 PM   #14
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269 Euros is a huge sum? In a year? I think you might be a little bit confused..
Maybe his living expenses are really low.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:42 PM   #15
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

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What is a lot of money in your opinion?
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From 500 to 1000 and something.
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Per....????

Hour?
Day?
Week?
Year???
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Year.
Don't even know where to start with this guy, as his posts make too little sense to even try to answer.
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Old 07-07-2018, 05:18 AM   #16
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So you don't earn a lot of money at the beginning?That is what I read in a site and I thought that you can live by that salary.Are 800 euros a huge sum?

Don't you get more money when you are promoted to a casino manager or pit boss?

What about 514 euros?Is that a good salary?

Why is no one replying to me?

149 views and no one knows....

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Old 07-07-2018, 06:22 AM   #17
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

Yes, you’ll make a lot of money when they promote you to casino owner. At least 514 Euros, maybe even 513 Euros. Does that answer your question now?
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Old 07-07-2018, 06:54 AM   #18
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Yes, you’ll make a lot of money when they promote you to casino owner. At least 514 Euros, maybe even 513 Euros. Does that answer your question now?
Why do you have to make fun of me?What have I done to you?Why can't I get a decent answer from you?Is that so hard?
I just read somewhere that dealers make a bank of money.I wanted to know if this myth is true or not.

I have another questionoes a dealer earn all the money he wins at games or is the casino responsible for that?

SRS?No one in this forum knows anything about this?

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Old 07-07-2018, 08:29 AM   #19
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SRS?No one in this forum knows anything about this?
wolly, you have 24 hours to make one post containing a coherent statement of facts regarding your inquiry. You should tell us what your situation is, what you already know about being a casino dealer/croupier, the source(s) of what you know, what else you want to know, and why you want to know it.

All of your questions you can think of should be contained in that one post after you've provided us with the above information necessary to help you.

If you don't do the above in 24 hours, I will erase your account and this thread. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:08 AM   #20
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

Your response did not provide any of the information I stated below. I have removed your first response so that you can try again. Please read the following again, slowly, then answer each of the following:

What is your current situation? How old are you? Where do you live? Are you single? Will your job be supporting only you, or do you want to have a partner and/or a family?

What do you already know about being a dealer? How much do you think dealers make where you would be working? Where did you get that information? (Provide a link to the website if possible.)

What more do you want to know about being a dealer? Are you willing to relocate to get a job? What sort of dealer do you want to be? Poker, table games, both?

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wolly, you have 24 hours to make one post containing a coherent statement of facts regarding your inquiry. You should tell us what your situation is, what you already know about being a casino dealer/croupier, the source(s) of what you know, what else you want to know, and why you want to know it.

All of your questions you can think of should be contained in that one post after you've provided us with the above information necessary to help you.

If you don't do the above in 24 hours, I will erase your account and this thread. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:18 AM   #21
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

I am 19 and I live in Romania.I want to emmigrate in Greece and I want to work there as a casino dealer for a few months.I learned blackjack and baccarat and holdem poker from the internet so I know some things about this job.I graduated highschool and I read some posts in here about dealers making less salary at start.I never worked in this industry so I asked if someone could tell me how the life is in the casino.I didn't know that in casinos you will be spitted,hated,humiliated and I believed at the age of 17-18 that this is a chance where you can earn money easily if you are an undergraduate.
Do I stand a chance in this industry?I have a family that supports me so that won't make me a homeless guy.
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Old 07-07-2018, 09:49 AM   #22
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

Good news is that you can just move to Greece if you like to, thanks to the EU.

Bad news is that no other country in Europe has a youth unemployment rate as bad as Greece. More than 40% of 16-24 year olds in Greece are unemployed which raises the question why you think you would get a job in a casino there?

I don’t think we have many people here who work in a casino in Greece. My knowledge is limited to playing in Athens and Thessaloniki and based on that I would think that poker isn’t a big thing in Greece. You should contact one of the casinos and ask them directly about employment opportunities.
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Old 07-07-2018, 10:49 AM   #23
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Well if Greece is not an option for me what countries in the EU still play poker in casinos?
I am limited in my knowledge and I don't know a lot about countries with poker players.
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Old 07-07-2018, 11:00 AM   #24
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Re: Casino Dealer/Croupier

jeezushchrist-on-a-popsicle-stick! This guy makes a 6th grade graduate of a public school in backwoods southern US locales seem like a Rhodes Scholar.

Currency conversion rates are easily found on the interwebs, which we know you have access to by the very fact you are posting here. Those same search engines will help to determine costs of living in the jurisdictions to where you seek to gain employment.

Whether those anticipated income streams and costs of living are compatible is something only the individual in question can determine.

As to the likelihood of gaining employment...my guess is that it isn't happening if you are as incapable in daily life of answering simple questions and using logic as you have placed on display in this thread. If the employment pool IS that weak, then I weep for the patrons of the casinos over there...
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Old 07-07-2018, 11:10 AM   #25
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I just can't find a lot of jobs in my country and I wanted your advices.Which country allows poker in casinos and it's not restricted?The only job that I found is a casino superviser which is not the same with what I want.
Ok.Is being a superviser better than a dealer?
In my country online poker is dead and I'm not so sure about live poker.Come to think a bit poker in our country died a long time ago and now most of them play for sports bets.It's just not fair that you guys have a lot of players that enjoy poker in your country and in my country I can barelly see that.

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