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Old 05-12-2021, 07:20 PM   #4601
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Re: Vegetarian-vegan thread

If you want to eat healthier without a huge change to your diet, instead of pizza with processed meat 4 times a week, switch to vegetarian pizza 4 times a week. Then replace the fast food with a bean or tofu and vegetable dish, and eat whatever you already eat for your 3x a week semi healthy dinner. Oatmeal is great. Instead of cookies and candy eat fruit.
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Old 05-12-2021, 07:21 PM   #4602
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Maybe both, but definitely the former.
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Old 05-13-2021, 04:03 AM   #4603
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Hey Mates,

Ive been thinking about going vegetarian and was looking for some guidance.

Doctor took my blood work and my cholesterol was through the roof. I'm 33 and have 3 little kids so I need to make a lifestyle change.

Right now my diet consists of something like : pizza 4x a week, fast food 4x a week , sandwiches occasionally, 3x a week semi healthy dinner . Oatmeal, cereal or skipping breakfast alltogether. Plenty of cookies and candy.

I think I'm addicted to sugar , actually I'm sure that I am . Anyways , I want to switch to a vegetarian diet, but I'm afraid going completely cold turkey I'll bail on the diet. Also, I suck at and hate cooking .

Any thoughts on what kind of diet I should start that's easy to prepare ? Any books you'd recommend etc..
Weight and height?

Most of the **** you eat can be consumed on a vegan/veggie diet, so a switch to vegan/veggie may or may not be inherently healthier. For example, knowing how you define a "semi-healthy" dinner to be would be helpful because it's most likely absolute garbage, so modifications can be made first that will be easier.

Also, for oatmeal, are you talking about those shitty Quaker maple & brown sugar oatmeal packs or plain oats? If the ingredients label reads anything other than: 100% whole grain rolled oats, 100% steel cut oats, or something along those lines, then it's dogshit.

Anything by Brenda Davis will have the info without the sanctimonious douchebag undertones.
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Old 05-13-2021, 10:19 AM   #4604
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Weight and height?

Most of the **** you eat can be consumed on a vegan/veggie diet, so a switch to vegan/veggie may or may not be inherently healthier. For example, knowing how you define a "semi-healthy" dinner to be would be helpful because it's most likely absolute garbage, so modifications can be made first that will be easier.

Also, for oatmeal, are you talking about those shitty Quaker maple & brown sugar oatmeal packs or plain oats? If the ingredients label reads anything other than: 100% whole grain rolled oats, 100% steel cut oats, or something along those lines, then it's dogshit.

Anything by Brenda Davis will have the info without the sanctimonious douchebag undertones.
Thanks for the response:

1) 6'1" 195 lbs. Heaviest ive ever been, which I know isnt much as I have a fast metabolism, but that doesnt mean im healthy.
2) " Semi Healthy Dinner" is usually something like a crock pot meal (Carrots Beans Chicken and some sort of sauce) Or (BBQ Chicken in the crockpot) (Some sort of seasoned chicken with beans)
3) Definitely eating the packaged quaker oats stuff. Thanks for the heads up ill look for whole grain oats or steel cut oats only.
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Old 05-13-2021, 10:20 AM   #4605
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If you want to eat healthier without a huge change to your diet, instead of pizza with processed meat 4 times a week, switch to vegetarian pizza 4 times a week. Then replace the fast food with a bean or tofu and vegetable dish, and eat whatever you already eat for your 3x a week semi healthy dinner. Oatmeal is great. Instead of cookies and candy eat fruit.
Vegeterian Pizza is interesting, I never thought about that. How does it taste? What kind of ingredients do you put in your pizza?
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Old 05-13-2021, 10:23 AM   #4606
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What kind of food do you like? Lots of great Latin American, South/East/SE Asian vegetarian food. Or you can go hippy white person food and do stir fries with tofu, seasoned baked tofu, scrambled tofu, your favourite bean with onions, a can of tomatoes and your favorite seasoning. You can also still eat vegetarian pizza 4 times a week, or do vegetarian pasta or lasagne.

Recipes depend on what you want to eat and how much effort you put into cooking, but there are all sorts of vegan recipes at https://minimalistbaker.com and https://www.theppk.com/recipes/
I dont think id like the hippy white person type of food.

I dont like much italian food other than Pizza , even though im Italian.
Ive never eaten fish and dont plan on starting.
I like american food (Burgers, pizza, hot dogs, chicken sandwiches)
I like mexican foods (Tacos , anything with cheese etc.)
I like southwest / latin american type food that has a lot of spices

Any dish you prepare that you would recommend based on the above? Thanks
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Old 05-13-2021, 07:11 PM   #4607
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I don't use a recipe, but I make taco/burrito filling that's similar to this https://www.skinnytaste.com/black-bean-tacos/

I make a really simple dish that's southwest/latin american adjacent. Saute some chopped onion (I use lots but 1 onion is probably okay) and garlic, throw in a can of tomatoes, a can of black beans, some frozen corn, and season with cumin, paprika, cayenne, salt and pepper to taste. Serve with rice or quinoa, and/or sweet potato.

If you have a chili recipe, just substitute the ground beef with red kidney beans.
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Old 05-13-2021, 08:29 PM   #4608
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Black bean burgers, when done correctly, are insanely good.
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Old 05-14-2021, 12:26 AM   #4609
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Hey Mates,

Ive been thinking about going vegetarian and was looking for some guidance.

Doctor took my blood work and my cholesterol was through the roof. I'm 33 and have 3 little kids so I need to make a lifestyle change.

Right now my diet consists of something like : pizza 4x a week, fast food 4x a week , sandwiches occasionally, 3x a week semi healthy dinner . Oatmeal, cereal or skipping breakfast alltogether. Plenty of cookies and candy.

I think I'm addicted to sugar , actually I'm sure that I am . Anyways , I want to switch to a vegetarian diet, but I'm afraid going completely cold turkey I'll bail on the diet. Also, I suck at and hate cooking .

Any thoughts on what kind of diet I should start that's easy to prepare ? Any books you'd recommend etc..
Vegetarian could work for you but it's an extreme change and I think more difficult for your goal than switching to keto or low carb diet. You need to give up both meat and sugar. At the moment you should pick one and sugar should be a higher priority for you. Giving up sugar take a bit of time and can be super frustrating. I doubt going vegetarian is a good short term goal for you.
I know Kevin Smith almost died and went full vegan to correct that but without the life threatening situation it's super hard.

Your answer is more likely meal prep of healthy meals to avoid fast food. And once you can maintain your new diet for months go vegetarian or vegan if that's a real envy.
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Vegetarian could work for you but it's an extreme change and I think more difficult for your goal than switching to keto or low carb diet. You need to give up both meat and sugar. At the moment you should pick one and sugar should be a higher priority for you. Giving up sugar take a bit of time and can be super frustrating. I doubt going vegetarian is a good short term goal for you.
I know Kevin Smith almost died and went full vegan to correct that but without the life threatening situation it's super hard.

Your answer is more likely meal prep of healthy meals to avoid fast food. And once you can maintain your new diet for months go vegetarian or vegan if that's a real envy.
Keto is far more extreme than just cutting out meat and doing an ovo-lacto vegetarian diet, and it's ridiculous to cut out an actual macronutrient. Carbs converted into glycogen hold 3g of water per gram stored, hence the immediate weight loss. Save the water loss strategies for bodybuilder contest prep or fighters making weight.
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Old 05-14-2021, 03:11 AM   #4611
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Re: Vegetarian-vegan thread

It's not a miracle diet. It's fairly easier to control food intake while not feeling hungry. Better satiety overall. Not snacking on fast carbs.
Keto is on the extreme side but with really good potential.
Anyway as I said before cutting fast food seems like the real solution.
Vegan pizza over real pizza won't make a huge difference if any. Some chicken with some lentils is more likely to be effective.
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It's not a miracle diet. It's fairly easier to control food intake while not feeling hungry. Better satiety overall. Not snacking on fast carbs.
Keto is on the extreme side but with really good potential.
Anyway as I said before cutting fast food seems like the real solution.
Vegan pizza over real pizza won't make a huge difference if any. Some chicken with some lentils is more likely to be effective.
Yes, keto is not a miracle diet; it's a donk diet. Yes, eliminating simple carbs will reduce rapid insulin spikes, which will reduce hunger pangs and potential overeating, but so will replacing simple carbs with complex carbs.

What's the "really good potential" to keto, especially for a guy 6' 1" 195lbs with high cholesterol?
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Old 05-14-2021, 05:35 AM   #4613
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Dropping sugar is great for ldl and tryglicerides which are more likely the problem than cholesterol itself.
And again for him keto is probably overkill. And going vegetarian would end up with him eating some shitty food like potato chips that are vegetarian options.
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Old 05-14-2021, 10:59 AM   #4614
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to anyone looking to switch their diet, particularly limpditka

mushrooms, peppers and zucchini are good pizza toppings.
the new generation pea protein meat substitutes like beyond and impossible are quite tasty and a good way to easily transition from a burger to a plant based diet.
almonds are your friend. plenty of flavored versions if those taste boring.
substitute beans instead of meat in tacos or similar foods.
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Dropping sugar is great for ldl and tryglicerides which are more likely the problem than cholesterol itself.
And again for him keto is probably overkill. And going vegetarian would end up with him eating some shitty food like potato chips that are vegetarian options.
Agreed on the table sugar. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't go veggie, but ovo-lacto is very easy - much easier than ditching crack sugars. If he starts pounding potato chips instead, then he's just being super lazy.

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to anyone looking to switch their diet, particularly limpditka

mushrooms, peppers and zucchini are good pizza toppings.
the new generation pea protein meat substitutes like beyond and impossible are quite tasty and a good way to easily transition from a burger to a plant based diet.
almonds are your friend. plenty of flavored versions if those taste boring.
substitute beans instead of meat in tacos or similar foods.
Then there is this: trashy ovo-lacto veggie foods that are easy to switch to that are overall a bit healthier than their meat counterparts and definitely healthier than pounding potato chips.
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