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06-12-2018 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian O'Nolan
I’m definitely being snobby and you should definitely eat what you want. It’s kinda sad to me if you can’t see the difference between something like mapo tofu and a veggie patty, but I guess I just have different priorities.
It's always funny to listen to carnivores talk about vegetarian cuisine. Yeah, we do have different priorities. I eat for fuel, and... how many pounds are you currently trying to lose?
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06-12-2018 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian O'Nolan
Big Veggie is a bit tongue-in-cheek for sure. I do see this idea that veg/vegan food is purely a delivery system for nutrients and calories, which is what I was referring to. I may have a skewed perception of how many people view food that way, though.
Most vegetarians/vegans don't use food as purely a delivery system for nutrients and calories, just like most carnivores don't. They eat food they like, just like you do. LoL is a bit of a freak, but so are lots of carnivores who bro out at the gym or train for extreme endurance events.

Mapo tofu is delicious. So are lots of other things. Mapo tofu is not the best choice when grilling in the backyard with your friends, but when I go to a chinese restaurant I don't try to order a black bean dish.
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06-12-2018 , 03:13 PM
You're missing out. Those Asian black dish sauces are fantastic.
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06-12-2018 , 03:30 PM
haha didn't even click that mapo tofu uses fermented black beans. I wonder how they'd taste in a patty
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06-13-2018 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Looking forward to the results
I cooked my bean mix and made it tasty, and then cut in the oats. Maybe 1.5 cups in here with a can of beans (and its liquid), onion, pepper, garlic. I then let it sit 20-30 minutes so the oats could soak up some liquid. .... It made the most ****-like substance I've ever turned out of a kitchen (and I used to make organic dog treats at a vegan-friendly bakery).



I formed them, and dusted them with some flour and then sauteed ...



Pics are nothing special, and neither were the bean bugers/patties. They taste good, but that's because beans and aromatics always taste good.

I would definitely make this again and eat it on a bun with burger-like toppings. But the chewy texture I hoped for, from the oats, didn't come thru.

Note: Overseason your beans slightly because the oats will soak up a lot of flavor.
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07-06-2018 , 10:44 AM


Tasty, but still not right. Still, nice to eat a burger-ish sandwich-shaped item with mustard.
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07-08-2018 , 04:30 AM
Not right = doesn't taste of animal?
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09-16-2018 , 08:02 PM
I bought some frozen quorn pieces with the intention to make a curry. I've never had quorn before. Could I use it in cauliflower/broccoli cheese or is it best I stick with my original idea?
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09-17-2018 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rexx14
I bought some frozen quorn pieces with the intention to make a curry. I've never had quorn before. Could I use it in cauliflower/broccoli cheese or is it best I stick with my original idea?
Only time I've eaten quorn has been as hash. Not sure if the structure really fits into curry, it might dissolve?
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09-17-2018 , 11:40 AM
Amazin too busy bloodmouthing it up to come and post itt again.
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09-17-2018 , 11:48 AM
Not sure if quorn sounds delicious or gross. Fermented single cell fungal biomass is kind of on the line for me. Might be the plot device of a bad sci-fi novel, might be tasty.
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09-17-2018 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Not sure if quorn sounds delicious or gross. Fermented single cell fungal biomass is kind of on the line for me. Might be the plot device of a bad sci-fi novel, might be tasty.
It doesn't really taste much of anything except maybe bit salty. Seasoning accounts for majority of the taste.
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09-17-2018 , 11:52 AM
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The fungus is grown in vats using glucose syrup as food. A fermentation vat is filled with the growth medium and then inoculated with the fungal spores. The F. venenatum culture respires aerobically, so for it to grow at an optimum rate, it is supplied with oxygen, and carbon dioxide is drawn from the vat. To make protein, nitrogen (in the form of ammonia) is added and vitamins and minerals are needed to support growth. The vat is kept at a constant temperature, also optimized for growth; the fungus can double its mass every five hours.

When the desired amount of mycoprotein has been created, the growth medium is drawn off from a tap at the bottom of the fermenter. The mycoprotein is separated and purified. It is a pale yellow solid with a faint taste of mushrooms. Different flavors and tastes can be added to the mycoprotein to add variety.

A reproducible mutation occurs after 1,000 to 1,200 hours of cultivation in F. venenatum which greatly reduces the hypha length in the organism, which is considered unfavorable for production. Under normal conditions, this mutant strain will rapidly displace the parent strain. Replacing ammonia with nitrate as the source of nitrogen, or supplementing ammonium cultures with peptone, prevents this mutant strain from overtaking the product but will still develop. Alternatively, the appearance of the mutant can be delayed by varying selection pressures such as nutrient concentrations or pH levels.
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09-17-2018 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
Not sure if quorn sounds delicious or gross. Fermented single cell fungal biomass is kind of on the line for me. Might be the plot device of a bad sci-fi novel, might be tasty.
Dude, you eat flesh and muscle of pigs n ****.
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09-17-2018 , 11:58 AM
Right. Like I said, it doesn't necessarily sound horrible to me. I'm just a bit surprised such a thing exists and apparently is widely consumed.
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09-17-2018 , 12:38 PM
A fungus that feeds on glucose sounds pretty good to me, and I'm a typical bloodmouth.
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09-17-2018 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Anssi A
Only time I've eaten quorn has been as hash. Not sure if the structure really fits into curry, it might dissolve?
https://www.quorn.com.au/recipes/thai-green-curry
https://www.quorn.com.au/recipes/katsu-curry

There were heaps of curry recipes on the website using the product so I assume it's ok. I ended up just having a standard vegie pasta and the quorn is still in the freezer. I'll post a pic and give my first impressions when I eventually use it.
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12-26-2018 , 01:25 AM
Bump for Land O Lakes

The year vegan junk food went mainstream
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12-30-2018 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by StonyKO
I really started thinking about being a vegetarian after I saw how they kill cows on the farm... But the meat is too tasty to me
Well, just try to cut it down and try out some "fake-meats" if they taste similar enough to be acceptable.
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05-18-2020 , 02:47 PM
Land O Lakes,

Can you respond to this:

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Most buffets also have endless salad. As many raw veggies as you can put down. Probably not a great value, but you don't strike me as that sensitive to cost. Even then, there are salad only buffets (e.g. Souper Salad) which are appropriately priced. What's the problem with those?
Also, while you're at it can you explain this

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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
But when they cut salad ingredients into bite-sized pieces all of the nutrition falls out. It is no different than cooking removing nutrition.

Also, the mere placement of vegetables near jello and pudding decreases their nutritional value.
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
That's probably because while the intent was to mock, it is grounded in truth.
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05-20-2020 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Melkerson
Most buffets also have endless salad. As many raw veggies as you can put down. Probably not a great value, but you don't strike me as that sensitive to cost. Even then, there are salad only buffets (e.g. Souper Salad) which are appropriately priced. What's the problem with those?
Most buffets have **** food prepared by either teenagers or 40yo ex-convicts. Nothing against either of those guys, but I ain't eating the raw foods that they prepare. If you're talking about an elite buffet, then I'd likely get backed off again for destroying their delicious fruits and veggies... not because it would be a loss leader for them, but because they would lack variety for the rest of the day.

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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
But when they cut salad ingredients into bite-sized pieces all of the nutrition falls out. It is no different than cooking removing nutrition.

Also, the mere placement of vegetables near jello and pudding decreases their nutritional value.
Yes, chopping up greens = nutrient loss, but time, storage, etc., are contributing factors as to how much, but you noobs with your mushy cooked veggies are taking the worst of it.

And yes, fatties will hit the pudding instead of the veggies if you place them next to each other, so in that regard, they do lose nutritional value in that setting.
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05-20-2020 , 04:28 AM
I unhinge my jaw to eat my veggies whole nowadays. Sure, it was a lot of work (stretching and careful use of an exacto knife on more stubborn areas) to develop the ability to do so, but using teeth to cut and thereby destroying the nutritional value of food is unwise.

Now, Big Stove will tell you that absorption of most nutrients in humans is helped greatly through so-called "cooking," but they obviously have a vested interest and the results of their "studies" cannot be trusted.
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05-20-2020 , 06:35 AM
There's a reason you don't see any fat snakes.
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05-20-2020 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2
I unhinge my jaw to eat my veggies whole nowadays. Sure, it was a lot of work (stretching and careful use of an exacto knife on more stubborn areas) to develop the ability to do so, but using teeth to cut and thereby destroying the nutritional value of food is unwise.

Now, Big Stove will tell you that absorption of most nutrients in humans is helped greatly through so-called "cooking," but they obviously have a vested interest and the results of their "studies" cannot be trusted.
Depends on the specific nutrients. Of course there is a difference between steaming veggies and eating mushy veggies at a buffet. You know, kind of like chopping up a salad and eating it immediately and chopping it up eating it 4 days later.

The point is moot for you, though, because you only eat greens so you can blow steak out your ass more easily.
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05-20-2020 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
There's a reason you don't see any fat snakes.
Trump is fat.
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