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Anybody have a decent veggie patty recipe that can be grilled or pan seared?

I use uncooked, dry 1-minute/instant oats. If you use too many oats, you end up with more of an oatmeal/black bean cookie when it bakes on the grill. I'm not much for measuring things so if you want an more exact recipe, google has lots of black bean and oat burgers.

Sliced sweet potato is a better veggie burger than any patty mix IMO. Peel and slice to your desired thickness, parbake at 400 F or so until slightly undercooked, season with S&P and maybe like allspice, ginger, etc, then grill.

gregorio, thanks! Definitely got to try that and a few other bean/no bean patties. Hadn't considered oats though. Thinking beans, mushrooms, berries, cornmeal might make an interesting combo, with a standard veg medley puree replacing beans for an alternative base in the mixture.

Is there any reasoning behind your choice of black beans over cannellini's or pinto's?

Brian, can't go wrong with that I suppose . Maybe topped with a little pumpkin ketchup.

You can get 4-5 good sized patties from one whole grilled onion.

BTC, I used to use lentils, then I switched to black beans for a change of pace. I've also used chickpeas. I don't think the bean matters that much as long as you get them mushy enough, or run it through a food processor if they're out of a can and not that mushy or if you're a fancy sort of cook.

I used oats because I had a bag in the cupboard and that seemed more interesting as a binder than bread crumbs. I used to use some oil and some bread crumbs as well, but I found that wasn't necessary because it all stays together on the grill without that stuff.

Meh, I just feel like the veggie patties are that kind of faux meat product that embodies everything I dislike about veggie and vegan cuisine. I’d much rather embrace actually eating vegetables. Maybe I’m in the minority there tho.

Beans aren't a faux meat product and a bean-based patty is nothing like a soy faux meat burger. If you are just going to eat vegetables, where are you going to get your protein from? Plus soy burgers are delicious so why wouldn't you eat them?

I agree about fake meat products, but a veggie patty marketed as such is hardly fake meat. Done correctly, they can be nutritious and delicious in their own right. The ultimate burger type stuff though makes no sense to me.

A bean-veg burger is absolutely a faux/imitation hamburger with the added bonus of requiring a superfluous binding product. If you don’t immediately see that you are too much under the influence of Big Veggie for any kind of discussion on the topic.

If you need a vegan source of protein you should eat actual good food like mapo tofu/etc.

Lol, Big Veggie pawns man

Is Big Veggie some 3rd rate knockoff of the Jolly Green Giant?

Brian, how are beans not good vegetarian food, but coagulated bean milk mixed with ground pork is? Please provide a list of what other plant-based foods vegetarians should avoid and which pork dishes they should eat instead.

Beans are good. Make yourself some red beans and rice. Whip up a veggie cassoulet. Process up a nice hummus and you can even add roasted beets or bell peppers or whatever.

If you care about what you eat, don’t eat some stupid Frankenpatty that is a lousy hamburger imitation. If you don’t care what you eat, might as well just shovel protein powder down your gullet.

But don't shape it in a patty, eh?

Lol @ being snobby about bean patties but then saying red beans and rice rock, gtfo.

I’m definitely being snobby and you should definitely eat what you want. It’s kinda sad to me if you can’t see the difference between something like mapo tofu and a veggie patty, but I guess I just have different priorities.

You're probably thinking of some expertly cooked mapo vs a flash frozen and thawed veggie patty.

Veggie patties can be properly spiced and made to be delicious as well.

FWIW I like both, and don't eat pork so my mapo is always 100% vegetarian.

Maybe I’m not giving veggie patties a fair shake. I’ve only had 2 or 3 different versions, but none of them were any good, and I’ve never seen a recipe for one that sounded good. I’m sure they do exist.

And yeah, it is easy to make a dish like mapo truly vegetarian. Dishes like that are often considered vegetarian in China, so the recipes you mostly see will include the meat. You don’t need to be a fancy cook to figure out you can omit the meat.

Big Veggie is a bit tongue-in-cheek for sure. I do see this idea that veg/vegan food is purely a delivery system for nutrients and calories, which is what I was referring to. I may have a skewed perception of how many people view food that way, though.

I kind of get where you are coming from wrt trying to make something taste like meat. That’s a bit strange to me too. But a black bean patty is just another shingle shaped piece of delicious you can put between two buns. Kenjis recipe is the best one I’ve had.

How soggy do you cook those beans? Now I've got these bean-oat burgers on my brain, I'm gonna try and do it tonight.

I've got onion, garlic, canned/cooked beans, 1-minute oats, and a green bell pepper. I'm gonna try and make it and eat it with rice, but if it works, damn, burgers could be a staple... I miss eating sandwich-shaped items.

Not really soggy, just until they are a little soften than they might be out of a can. But counterpoint, https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/...er-recipe.html

So basically kenji says, whatever that gregorio guy is telling you to do, do the opposite.

Alright I'm just gonna wing it. My plan is to season and saute the aromatics, then drop in the beans, do whatever necessary to get them to a texture that seems right, kill the heat, cut in some oats and then form and fry.

Looking forward to the results