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been vegetarian for about six months and will start eating meat again in a couple months. Is it fine to just jump back in eating meat or should I slowly transition?

This is silly. I might allow some concern if you were a strict vegan for like 20 years.

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09-02-2017 , 06:20 PM

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SoCal's question just goes to show how being a vegetarian causes brain damage.

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09-02-2017 , 10:00 PM

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Huh?

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09-02-2017 , 10:14 PM

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SoCal's question just goes to show how being a vegetarian causes brain damage.

It takes about 2 years to detoxify the brain from the abuse of meat and restore the critical thought processes you had prior to eating meat. That's why after 6 months he's going back to eating meat. Foggy thinking.

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09-02-2017 , 10:19 PM

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By the by, I know three people who just snapped turned vegan after watching some documentary on health and are calling me for all this advice and ****. I'm like, "What? You're serious...? Well **** you for giving me **** for decades and now you need help learning how to eat."

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09-02-2017 , 11:15 PM

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What documentary?

Sounds like you're really comitted to the advancement of veganism

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09-02-2017 , 11:50 PM

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I don't think LoL is a vegan per se. He's into weird vegetable diets for other reasons.

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09-03-2017 , 12:27 AM

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What documentary?

What the Health (or something like that).

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Sounds like you're really comitted to the advancement of veganism

Thanks. I do what I can do when I can do it.

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I don't think LoL is a vegan per se. He's into weird vegetable diets for other reasons.

True. Good memory!

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09-03-2017 , 12:42 AM

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You like Jonagold apples? I got some last week and they're delicious.

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09-03-2017 , 02:37 AM

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Huh?

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09-03-2017 , 02:45 AM

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You like Jonagold apples? I got some last week and they're delicious.

outside of red delicious aren't all apples good? maybe granny smith is questionable other than that it's all good and imo not worth paying much of a premium for any specific type.

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09-03-2017 , 03:27 AM

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What the Health was an awful propaganda piece. I guess ultimately it's good that your friends want to start a new diet but still that movie is trash.

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09-03-2017 , 03:34 AM

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You like Jonagold apples? I got some last week and they're delicious.

Word. Good, but a bit too soft for me. Have been off apples for about 2 months though...

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09-03-2017 , 03:35 AM

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outside of red delicious aren't all apples good?

No.

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09-03-2017 , 03:38 AM

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What the Health was an awful propaganda piece. I guess ultimately it's good that your friends want to start a new diet but still that movie is trash.

Didn't see it myself, but thanks. Not sure how the movie is trash but their new diet (based on the movie) isn't, but I appreciate the input.

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09-03-2017 , 04:00 AM

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I skipped around What the Health a bit. It looks like a poorly done doc, but the content at first glance looks pretty like duh obviously.

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09-03-2017 , 04:12 AM

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A lot of the stuff is very "ldo" but other stuff is not just wrong, it's dangerous. Biggest example is that they have absolutely no idea what diabetes is. The movie claimed that diabetes is caused by animal products and that any vegan high carb diet would reduce diabetes. ("Any" being a key word here) This is obviously wrong, but they then make no differentiation between carbs, and don't even mention refined sugars. (At least not that I remember)

There's a lot of other stuff in there, like the conspiracy that the FDA is against vegan products and that police arrest people who are pro vegan but that's minor compared to the diabetes stuff.

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09-03-2017 , 04:22 AM

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Yeah, I saw something about diabetes. I'm sure that's wrong or grossly exaggerated.

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Lifetime diabetes risk at 18 years of age increased from 7.6 to 70.3% between underweight and very obese men and from 12.2 to 74.4% for women.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/30/6/1562

Whatever you're eating you get some warning about whether or not you're giving yourself diabetes anyway.

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09-03-2017 , 05:38 AM

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Make sure your protein intake is good or else you'll get sick all the time like I did.

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09-03-2017 , 12:37 PM

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It takes about 2 years to detoxify the brain from the abuse of meat

Exactly what is it you think is happening both before and after stopping eating meat?

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09-03-2017 , 12:39 PM

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Exactly what is it you think is happening both before and after stopping eating meat?

I believe his reply was satirical

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09-30-2017 , 10:09 PM

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11-02-2017 , 06:11 PM

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Vegetarians are twice as likely to experience depression as those eating a regular balanced diet.

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To our knowledge this is the first large epidemiological study to show a relationship between vegetarianism and significant depressive symptoms among adult men. Here we found that self–identification as a vegetarian was associated with an increased risk of depressive symptoms.

These associations remained after adjustment for vulnerability factors for depression including a family history of depression, previous childhood psychiatric contact, highest educational level reached, housing tenure, age, ethnic origin, number of children in the household, marital status, employment status, alcohol and tobacco consumption and religious identification. There was a trend evident comparing the duration of vegetarianism and depressed mood although this failed to reach significance.

Several possible factors previously linked to an increased risk of depressive symptoms might underlie this increased risk of depression among vegetarians. Any adverse effect on mood associated with vegetarian diet may result from contributions from multiple interactive nutrients including both type and quantity of dietary fat intake between vegetarians and non-vegetarians.

Other potential factors include high blood levels of phytoestrogens (consequent mainly on diets rich in vegetables and soya) and metabolites of pesticides (consequent upon relatively high intakes of fruit and vegetables), which are more likely to be found among vegetarians. Another potential contributing factor is lower intakes of seafood and low omega-3 HUFA blood levels are thought to be associated with greater risk of depressive symptoms.

Since exclusion of red meat primarily characterizes vegetarians, lower intakes of vitamin B12 merit consideration as a contributing factor. Our findings are also consistent with an evaluation of 1,046 Australian women where lower red meat consumption was associated with nearly a doubling of risk for major depressive and anxiety disorders.

However, it is possible that the increased risk for elevated depressive symptoms found here is not related to any dietary differences, but is due to intrinsic differences in rates of psychiatric or personality problems comparing vegetarians to non-vegetarians. It is possible that for some proportion of the population, vegetarianism is not chosen for health, religious or ethical reasons, but is a marker for other psychiatric disorders manifesting with symptoms of both eating disorders and depressive symptoms.

http://www.jad-journal.com/article/S...391-6/fulltext