just takes one

Also, anywhere there is water there is life. Life on earth exists at -456F and 256F and everywhere in between. If you are wondering it's tardigrades and P. fumarii. Trust me, we will find things that can survive higher and lower temperatures living right now, we just haven't looked everywhere yet.

Needless to say, that range is very small compared to lifes extreme possibility somewhere in the entire universe. I'd guess that life exists below and above 1000F, but wtf do I know? When I was in college I believe that the earliest life known was a little over 4.0 and 4.1 billion years ago, that has now changed in under 15 years. Hydrothermal vents had life at 4.2 bya. Oceans were here 4.4bya and the earth is 4.54 bya. I know all of this thanks to scientists, thanks guys!

Where there is life, eventually some become UFO's! We made UFO's to other planets in the solar system. Voyager 1/2 at the same time went to 4 planets with tons of moons. If any of them had life then we made the UFO's there.

I saw something similar to this in Michigan while walking home late one night almost 25 years ago.

When I got to this corner I noticed an extremely bright light. https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2499...7i13312!8i6656. I lived near the other end of the block. The trees on the opposite side of the road were either much smaller and less dense or were not there at all back then. The light would have been well below the current tree line.

At first, I thought that there was a train stopped pretty close to me because there wasn't any noise and the light was so bright. After figuring out that there wasn't anything there, I assumed that light was coming from a train heading in my direction. Because the light was so bright, I figured I would hang out and watch the train go by.

After a minute or so I could tell that the light was coming from something in the air rather than a train but it wasn't making any noise at all. It went past me a minute or so later while I was trying to figure out what it was. It stopped and hovered in about this area https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2499...7i13312!8i6656. It looked like a triangle or pyramid shape. Because the super bright light was the only light on it, it was hard to tell how big/small for far/close it was.

While it was hovering the light turned in my direction. I thought to myself that if it came my way I was running. About 10 seconds after I thought that it went from a dead stop to doing a U-turn. Not like a helicopter where the entire aircraft rotates but like a car would do a U-turn.

I ran home without looking back.

I love the google maps bonus to the story. You'd think that thousands of people like you seeing football stadium size triangles floating around without any sound or visible means of propulsion then vanishing into the horizon faster than the human eye can blink would result into something more than a ******ed history channel show. But then again maybe you're all 82 IQ rednecks and/or alcoholics.

It's not an easy story to tell without being able to be mostly anonymous.

I know, I actually see it as a brave act when people admit to things like this online these days. Nobody knows who you are irl but there is plenty of ''online stigma'' to deal with. Even in a relatively young/liberal/open minded environment like 2p2. I mean just skim through this thread...

Those aliens must be really lucky to only stumble upon humans like txp and daveT during their earthly visits..
I mean, as frequently as their giant hovering ships are spotted you'd think at least one time somebody would manage to get a video of it!

If one of our remote ships found life would they observe and depart or schedule a luncheon.

Are you from the US and asking why they can’t come out as atheists ? Ever heard of the Bible Belt ? Even in non cult states there are enough zealots to sway a close election.

No, not US. My point is authorities and scientists in most other countries have little issue discussing UFO's publicly or even admitting the ET possibility without giggling like a bunch of young broads or being scared of having their reputation ruined. The pressure and need to feel integrated, conform with everything mainstream and not have unorthodox beliefs/opinions is far bigger in US culture, whether we're talking congress or a small town high school. It's not just houses that are cookie cutter in the US. I guess it's some sort of protestant thing since nordic countries seem to do this to a certain extent? I don't know. Actually, nordic homes are also cookie cutter and look like **** so maybe I'm onto something here.

Check the vids I linked earlier with scientist, military leaders and politicians in other countries openly talking about the subject. Now imagine NASA (CNES is the french national space agency) doing a huge investigation on UFO's involving top scientist and military officers then publicly declaring their conclusion that some of these things are probably alien craft.

It was the fourth official investigation into UFOs & neither Sign, Grudge or Blue Book found anything either so it's not too outlandish to be skeptical that this one would.

You ever see those 3 hour youtube "documentaries" on UFOs? George Knapp is usually on them & "Skinwalker ranch" is nothing more than a myth & a rather unbelievable one at that. They even made a found footage horror film out of it, imaginatively called "Skinwalker Ranch"

I wouldn't regard Knapp as a valid source and I'm quite bemused to say the every least that anyone would take him seriously to the point where their views were actually shaped by his book on Skinwalker Ranch.

Doesn't sound terribly new either as they had the same suspicions back in the 50s.

Do you have any clue what a camcorder is? If so, what possesses you to believe everyone walked around with one?

I know it comes across sarcastic, but I don't know how old you are, so legit question.

I would not have taken a photo today. It's not going to see fireworks at Disney Land.

We are a strange culture. In America, politicians have to believe in God. If you believe in UFOs, you are crazy. Look at the former Governor of Arizona who had to deny UFOs while he was in office.

UFOs in their literal definition/acronym are quite real & anyone denying their existence is denying reality.

Not believing that UFOs are alien spacecraft otoh is perfectly valid/justified and it's just one of several hypotheses re UFOs anyway. There is no singular answer to the phenomenon imo but the vast majority of UFO sightings or incidents have more mundane explanations.

Are you saying UFO from another planet or from Earth? Big difference.

I believe in life beyond earth so count me in as the crowd that thinks it's fully possible that aliens exist. Better chance of aliens than God lol

What's a camcorder?
Weird that alien spaceship visits dont ever happen to people carrying modern cell phones with cameras. Or to people carrying a camcorder, whatever that contraption is.

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No idea wtf what youre trying to say there

God created us and possibly the aliens so it isn’t mutually exclusive.

Or the aliens are God.

Wouldn’t surprise me.

It's a big hulking video camera that allowed you to record directly to a VHS tape. It's the precursor to internet porn. Instead of using the internet, couples would take home videos of themselves doing the deed and watch it with their neighbors after eating Christmas dinner.

Actually, people are taking photos, but here's the thing people don't understand.... We are used to taking photos in broad daylight, up close, and in low-contrast environments, using **** camera equipment.

Doing photography in low-light / high contrast environments is hard / impossible. Even in the hands of a professional photographer with years of experience, using top-end cameras specifically set to the environment, it's very difficult to get this right, and the less control one has over the lighting, the more difficult it is.

As an experiment, take your cell phone out at night and take a picture of a street lamp. I want to see the street lamp in perfect detail. The light from the lamp should be reflecting off the post, and it's even better if you can add a bit of water below the light. I also want to see the buildings on the street and the stars in the sky.

Please take as many photos as you need to get this right. You are not allowed to cheat and use a car top or something to stabilize the camera.

This isn't something you see everyday (obv). Your mind is trying to figure out what you are seeing, and your survival instincts and curiosity are going to override any desire to share it on social media.

You don't seem to understand social media. People are only too happy to risk their lives in order to take a picture they think will look really cool on Instagram or SnapChat.

This.

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Good one. I myself recognize how conditioned I am to think someone is crazy if they believe they saw an alien or UFO. What farm did this happen on now?

The funny farm, obviously.

I don't think you understand the South. Dumb phones outnumber smart phones 2 to 1, and no one cares about taking photos of much of anything, really.

-- Just poking fun at the various cliche's, since everyone is a crazy Russian hanging off the side of skyscrapers.

What I'm saying about the south is pretty true.

I'm still waiting for that amazing shot of a street lamp.