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03-29-2017 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Springs1
NOT if I get GOOD SERVICE I am not YOU LIAR!
Nope. I guarantee there are times you get GOOD service but because you're CRAZY you think it's BAD service and therefore tip POORLY.
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03-29-2017 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Springs1
Servers should not cut turns and that is *EXACTLY* what she did, then they expect **US CUSTOMERS** not to interrupt them while they are at another table, such hypocrites. They can't have it both ways.
Again, I guarantee that if you placed your order FIRST and the server brought the order to the kitchen, and then came BACK to a table CLOSER to the kitchen to take their order, and both orders came up at the SAME TIME, and the server brought them BOTH out at the same time but STOPPED at the CLOSER table FIRST, YOU would leave the server LESS of a tip because of the POOR SERVICE. Therefore you are a BAD TIPPER.

And you're NOT ALLOWED to blame the KITCHEN, because in THIS scenario we are going to state that YOUR order required slightly LONGER to prepare than the OTHER ORDER because their order was very SIMPLE and required less time to COOK.

And you're NOT ALLOWED to fault the SERVER for bringing them BOTH out at the same time because if they were brought out SEPARATELY (yours first) then that would be WASTING TIME for the PERSON waiting for the OTHER order.
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03-29-2017 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pudley4
Again, I guarantee that if you placed your order FIRST and the server brought the order to the kitchen, and then came BACK to a table CLOSER to the kitchen to take their order, and both orders came up at the SAME TIME, and the server brought them BOTH out at the same time but STOPPED at the CLOSER table FIRST, YOU would leave the server LESS of a tip because of the POOR SERVICE. Therefore you are a BAD TIPPER.

And you're NOT ALLOWED to blame the KITCHEN, because in THIS scenario we are going to state that YOUR order required slightly LONGER to prepare than the OTHER ORDER because their order was very SIMPLE and required less time to COOK.

And you're NOT ALLOWED to fault the SERVER for bringing them BOTH out at the same time because if they were brought out SEPARATELY (yours first) then that would be WASTING TIME for the PERSON waiting for the OTHER order.
You just tipmated Springs.

gg thx for playing Springs.
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03-29-2017 , 08:54 PM
I traveled once with a person that reminded me of Springs, but her deal was knowing what the prices for locals were for certain things (mainly tuk tuks) and then fighting for her life to get that price, because paying anything higher than that would be getting SCAMMED or RIPPED OFF and it was against her PRINCIPLES to pay more than one cent over what the 'correct' price was. Really fun person! One day she walked 5 miles in the sun without sunscreen b/c the tuk-tuks kept trying to overcharge her by 25 cents. In her mind the scalding sunburn was worth it!
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03-29-2017 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pudley4
Again, I guarantee that if you placed your order FIRST and the server brought the order to the kitchen, and then came BACK to a table CLOSER to the kitchen to take their order, and both orders came up at the SAME TIME, and the server brought them BOTH out at the same time but STOPPED at the CLOSER table FIRST, YOU would leave the server LESS of a tip because of the POOR SERVICE. Therefore you are a BAD TIPPER.
I am not a bad tipper, because the server shouldn't be bringing both out, they should make TWO SEPARATE TRIPS. If they don't, that's wasting 2-3 of **MY TURN SECONDS** AWAY FROM MY PARTY'S TABLE since we ordered BEFORE the closest table. It makes me a **********FAIR********************* tipper! FAIR!

If the server does bring both out on one tray, they should hand it out in the order in which it was taken in to be ***FAIR***, otherwise, WHY should we be nice to them if they aren't to us, huh? It's only fair to punish them they way they punished us. EQUAL=EQUAL treatment. They cut in front of our turn to hand it out in the wrong order, so they get what they deserve.

It's called being **FAIR**. When you are at McDonald's at the mall(no self-serve drinks) and you are behind me with just a coke you want, you still have to wait YOUR TURN even though let's say all I want is a coke too, so I get mine served to me first. That's what's fair. Same thing EVERY SINGLE OTHER PLACE except for ER is doing things the **FAIR and MORALLY RIGHT WAY**. WHY NOT YOU?

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And you're NOT ALLOWED to fault the SERVER for bringing them BOTH out at the same time because if they were brought out SEPARATELY (yours first) then that would be WASTING TIME for the PERSON waiting for the OTHER order.
NO, it's not "wasting time" since it's **********NOT THEIR ****ING TURN YET YOU ******* CUTTER YOU**********!

It's not their turn, so the server shouldn't be doing ANYTHING about their turn WHAT-SO-EVER, otherwise it's cutting. It's not like the server was called over, this was the server bringing out food from the kitchen. 2 separate trips for 2 separate turns.

It's *****OUR TURN 2-3 SECONDS********, NOT THEIRS, so they don't get to cut 2-3 seconds more. That's 100% TOTALLY UNFAIR!

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And you're NOT ALLOWED to blame the KITCHEN, because in THIS scenario we are going to state that YOUR order required slightly LONGER to prepare than the OTHER ORDER because their order was very SIMPLE and required less time to COOK.
I sure can if the kitchen staff had to remake the food because it was either made wrong by THEIR FAULT in the first place or the kitchen staff dropped the food, if they didn't start on it because of BS'ING in the kitchen, etc.

I sure can blame the kitchen and the server. So you think that only one person is at fault? Not always. Let's say my server put in my order correctly, but dropped the ranch on the ground as she was bringing it and let's say the kitchen staff did put it on the plate to bring and the kitchen staff actually put pickles on my burger when the order had none. Do you see how BOTH people are at fault for different issues, huh? Also, the pickles are a delay if i send back my bun for being with pickle juice as I have in the past, because I hate pickles. So that's time consuming just as the server taking both at the same time and delivering it out in the wrong order.

I had worked with cooks that did drugs before, one that in the bathroom did weed and when it came time for doing the job, it was slow and/or things went wrong.

You act like it's just the server, which sometimes it's not always the case, sometimes BOTH people are at fault for issues, sometimes it's both issues food and time.

Last edited by Springs1; 03-29-2017 at 09:11 PM.
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03-29-2017 , 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pudley4
Nope. I guarantee there are times you get GOOD service but because you're CRAZY you think it's BAD service and therefore tip POORLY.
NO, because bad service is bad service. If you are cut in front of your turn, that's bad service. One time I remember probably around over 10yrs ago, this waitress me and my husband had sometimes it was us that was first when we weren't first, sometimes it was the other table that was last, but our waitress put them first for some of our and their request. I don't quite understand WHY servers DO THAT ****??? WHY not just do the right thing in the proper order so NOBODY waits longer than their turn is **********SUPPOSED TO BE*************??
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03-29-2017 , 09:13 PM
Do you BELIEVE that people should DIE in the order that they are BORN?
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03-29-2017 , 09:41 PM
If everything is turn based then the waiter is doing the right thing by finishing wiping a glass over giving anyone service.
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03-29-2017 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by owster
If everything is turn based then the waiter is doing the right thing by finishing wiping a glass over giving anyone service.
NO, because "objects" don't have turns, ONLY ********PEOPLE******* DO MORON!
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03-29-2017 , 10:10 PM
But a person wants the glass wiped.
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03-29-2017 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil S
But a person wants the glass wiped.
The glass should be wiped BEFORE customers come into the restaurant. In other words, enough glasses to not have to wash and when they do wash them eventually, it's during a really slow time such as 3p.m. is not as busy as 8p.m. for example.
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03-29-2017 , 10:31 PM
Springs,

I saw the picture of you. Why do you lie and claim to be skinny when you are FAT?
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03-29-2017 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Springs1
The glass should be wiped BEFORE customers come into the restaurant. In other words, enough glasses to not have to wash and when they do wash them eventually, it's during a really slow time such as 3p.m. is not as busy as 8p.m. for example.
Springs,

This is just another example of an idiot customer who thinks they know how a restaurant should operate, yet really has no idea what they are talking about.
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03-29-2017 , 10:47 PM
Had a Springs/OOT-approved(I think) transaction yesterday too:

*delivers $4 beer
*give her a five
"I'll be right back with your change."
"All set, thank you very much."
"Thank you."

Thought of this dumb thread obviously.
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03-30-2017 , 12:28 AM
When I worked in a restaurant approximately infinity glasses were washed and wiped over the course of the night. When you're a ranch obsessed fatso you're probably not paying attention though.
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03-30-2017 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by cardsharkk04
I traveled once with a person that reminded me of Springs, but her deal was knowing what the prices for locals were for certain things (mainly tuk tuks) and then fighting for her life to get that price, because paying anything higher than that would be getting SCAMMED or RIPPED OFF and it was against her PRINCIPLES to pay more than one cent over what the 'correct' price was. Really fun person! One day she walked 5 miles in the sun without sunscreen b/c the tuk-tuks kept trying to overcharge her by 25 cents. In her mind the scalding sunburn was worth it!
Oh man, yes. I traveled with a girl that would get into ridiculous haggles like 18 cents every day. I understand you can save the 18 cents with just 3 minutes of arguing and walking away then being chased down but c'mon.

And then she would give money to beggars. The woman making homemade necklaces deserves to have to argue for 5 minutes to get a subsistence margin but the person who offers nothing but offensive odor deserves pure profit?
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03-30-2017 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cardsharkk04
I traveled once with a person that reminded me of Springs, but her deal was knowing what the prices for locals were for certain things (mainly tuk tuks) and then fighting for her life to get that price, because paying anything higher than that would be getting SCAMMED or RIPPED OFF and it was against her PRINCIPLES to pay more than one cent over what the 'correct' price was. Really fun person! One day she walked 5 miles in the sun without sunscreen b/c the tuk-tuks kept trying to overcharge her by 25 cents. In her mind the scalding sunburn was worth it!
Was she poor like Springs?
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03-30-2017 , 04:00 AM
Every day I wake up and wonder how the **** Donald Trump is the president of our country, but then I see that there are actually people like Springs in the world and it makes sense.
I keep picturing Springs is this lady.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9MUycYD6Y
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03-30-2017 , 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
Springs,

This is just another example of an idiot customer who thinks they know how a restaurant should operate, yet really has no idea what they are talking about.
It's not how a "restaurant" operates you dumb idiot moron, it's how a *********SERVER OR BARTENDER************* should serve IDIOT!

The person serving you is the person that is either a moral person or not one.

There's no reason why objects should be ********EVER************ more important than a human being UNLESS there is no one waiting for anything and that party wants that *EXACT* spot that is dirty to sit in, then you'd clean it before seating them as I did at the donut shop/diner. Some people wanted an exact spot and I had no other request pending, so I cleaned it before taking the customer's order since they wanted to sit at that exact spot.
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03-30-2017 , 08:00 AM
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Oh man, yes. I traveled with a girl that would get into ridiculous haggles like 18 cents every day. I understand you can save the 18 cents with just 3 minutes of arguing and walking away then being chased down but c'mon.

And then she would give money to beggars. The woman making homemade necklaces deserves to have to argue for 5 minutes to get a subsistence margin but the person who offers nothing but offensive odor deserves pure profit?
Haha yup. We were buying instant coffee near the top of volcano that cost .50 when the price of said instant coffee package was .25 at the store. Apparently she could not see the added value of being able to drink coffee at the top of a volcano. Anyway she got her price down to .45 but was still salty about it.

Her two favorite phrases were "I work hard for my money, why should I waste it!" and "18 cents is a lot of money in this country!!!"

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Was she poor like Springs?
Probably, but I'm not sure I know anyone personally that is poorer than Springs
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03-30-2017 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Springs1
NO, because "objects" don't have turns, ONLY ********PEOPLE******* DO MORON!
It probably says more about you than the waiter that he rather wipe a glass than give you service.
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03-30-2017 , 11:43 AM
So tilted by Panera making me push NO to their new tip prompt.

The **** would I tip when the cashier isn't serving me or even swiping my card?!
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03-30-2017 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Springs1
blah blah blah I don't understand hypotheticals.
Let's go over this again. I'll type slowly so you can follow along.


You are seated at a table. Then another customer is seated at a different table.

Your server comes and takes your order and then gives it to the kitchen who starts it right away.

Your server goes back and takes the other customer's order and gives it to the kitchen who starts it right away.

Because of the amount of time the food literally takes to cook and put together, both orders are plated and put up at the same time.

The server goes back to pick up the food. He has two choices:

1 - He picks up both plates at the same time
2 - He picks up one plate, delivers it to the table, then goes back and picks up the second.

Let's look at the possible outcomes (let's first assume the walk time from kitchen to table 1 is 10 seconds, from table 1 to table 2 is 10 seconds and a 15 second time at the table to confirm everything is correct).

1 - He picks up both plates and delivers to the closest table first. This delay causes about 15 extra seconds of wait time to you, plus you aren't served first, which you find unfair.

1a - He picks up both plates and delivers to you first. He then goes back to the other table and delivers their food. You get your food "on time" and in order but this causes a 35 second delay for table 1. So in your mind it's better for table 1 to have a longer delay than you just because you arrived first.

2 - He picks up your plate and delivers it to you (35 seconds) He then goes back and gets the other plate and delivers it to table 1 (30 seconds). So now table 1 has waited 65 seconds instead of 10 (scenario 1) or 35 (scenario 1a). [B]This is what you want. But what if you were table 1? In this scenario he has just cost you 30 seconds! He's made you wait longer than he should have! NO TIP FOR HIM!
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03-30-2017 , 12:48 PM
Springs,

This may shock you, but frequently the order of service and prioritization is set at either a corporate or managerial level, and not by moral/amoral servers. The things that you are viewing as people acting amorally and then punishing that person are in fact frequently dictated as efficient, proper, or otherwise important by managers who are in no way impacted by your decision not to tip.

Similarly, it may shock you that the dictums of service may be quite different at some kind of disgusting diner/donut shack than they are at a corporately run chain restaurant or other restaurant.

In a specific example from my own belief system:

1. I show up to a restaurant and ask to be seated. Let's assume there is some sort of blind turn so that I cannot see the restaurant floor.

2. There is a mess on the restaurant floor, or a kind of gross table top since a party has just left! It's not actually exactly where I'm going to sit, but I would notice it when I turn into the dining area.

The restaurant at this point can choose to ask me politely to wait a minute (usually "while we get your table ready") (literally, a minute) or immediately seat me, letting me know that there is something gross and unsightly.

Obviously when I step into the room (which again in this hypothetical has quite a number of seating options) I'm going to know that they didn't really have need of me waiting to set my table since there's 10 open tables. And, if they did make me wait, I'm not going to know why I had to wait! In theory in this spot, I could choose to be angry because I feel they could have sat me a minute earlier and they are stealing a minute of my life.

But, it turns out it is minorly valuable to me to not see gross **** and believe that my restaurant experience is clean, sanitary, and otherwise pleasant. IE, there are things that the restaurant policy might correctly believe I'd prefer to trade for time. And obviously they should not ask me "do you want us to clean up a mess first so you will not see it or seat you immediately?"

This is consistent for me even if I can see the mess because there's no blind turn. I would rather wait for the mess to be cleaned up so that I'm never seated in a dining area with a mess than be seated simultaneous (because there could be plenty of staff) or before the mess is cleaned.
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03-30-2017 , 01:43 PM
Springs,






What a time for a fatass to be alive!
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