It's not really like that at all (again at not pos redneck hickville cafes). The kitchen wants you to enjoy your food so you'll come back.

When I was like 21 or so I did this to this euro couple that gave me 2 bucks when they rolled in 2 mins before my shift ended and had like 3 different 60~ lb ski bags and like 6 bags between the two. I wanted to leave so I find out where they're at and drop it all off before they even get back to the room. It should've been like a 20~ given the ridiculous ski bags. They also folded it up to make it look like more money, likely increasing my super sayan level to nearly 5,000.

Like I said, they can still make an okay living doing it but this relies on customers tipping. That is what is dumb about it. Also, they may like other aspects of the job. Why can't you complain about an aspect of the industry you are in that you dislike? That seems really odd. Also, some people need any job they can get.

I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest with you here. At all, really. I just think you either 1.) misunderstand the opposing side of the argument to be something about the entire business and management condoning such actions, or 2.) you just haven't worked at or been around enough restaurants. I will grant you that even in most cases involving any employees that would potentially shortcut like this, yes, most of the time they will do the right thing and remake the meal correctly. It's not like they do this stuff every time, but I've definitely seen this sort of stuff happen and it just takes a few people that don't take pride in their job.

Again, I'm not saying it's the norm, but your attitude seems to be aligned with this sort of stuff NEVER happening. Don't project your own work ethic and morals onto the entire foodservice industry That said, it sounds like I would very much appreciate you as my server and wish that more people would take that kind of pride to their work place.

Yeah i feel you there and that's a good point. I guess it all started with the guy saying chef lol

So I read an article about a guy fulfilling his brother's will. The will said something like, go out and give a great tip on like a pizza....I don't mean like 100% I mean like $500 to just random serving staff. So there was a video of them giving it to this young girl and her reactions. I think it said they tried to go places that were more diner'esque where they typically are lucky to break a hundred (as opposed to places where you can earn 500 in a night etc of course). Really great stuff regardless of your views on tipping and always great to see people helping others. Really reinstates hope in humanity that people are still compassionate and willing to help others when they can.

Lol. After they're dead.

It's called Aaron's last wish

There are a lot of vids on youtube

To the $8 pizza tipper:

Don't **** around with people who make your food.

Good tip 10min before closing, to a guy making a point that you need to tip big, = $20+

$100 at least.

I might just not tip the guy at all for making me convince him to do his job.

LOL @ tipping a pizza delivery guy $8 being "****ing around with people".

LOL @ thinking I meant the tip itself was ****ing around with people. I was referring to the phone call, obv, since the tip would be after he got his food, ldo.

When a dude making **** wages is pissed that you're placing an order at closing time and suggests he better get a good tip, probably saying, "Whatever man, you're not even closed for another 10 minutes. I'll tip what I can, and if that's not cool then don't take the order." is not the ideal response.

Doubtful.

True.

Why dont the businesses who employ these servers pay them a decent wage that they can live on (sort of) like the rest of the world?

It fascinates me how the US has allowed this crazy tipping culture to infiltrate their society

People think that their service will diminish if no tipping were allowed. I think if the establishment has a standard in place, then customer complaints would either make the server provide better service or be terminated. Seems to work in other fields, such as computer programming or McDonald's, for example.

Good service should be the standard, just part of a servers job and it is the majority of the time over here and most other countries


A company paying an employee $2 something per hr and then the employee relying on strangers generosity for any $$ on top of that just seems crazy

Anyway I enjoy reading these tipping discussions, wierdly lol

Why would he be pissed? It's his job lol.

He can either take the order with the chance of getting a (large) tip or refuse the order and get nothing.
He should be happy he was getting another tip that night, he would be $8 worse off if he simply said "we're closed"

Even if they just made the minimum wage like $9-$10 for servers. Somewhere that a 10% tip would allow them to make an alright wage.

I don't disagree, but dudes who say **** like that are not delivering pizzas for a living; they're picking up beer money and mooching off their folks. They've got all their cleanup done and waiting for the big hand to hit 12 so they can leave and do bong rips. An order comes in and now they have to stay 30 minutes extra.

As a pizza restaurant cook/manager, tipping $8 on a $22 order is more than fine, and all of our drivers would be incredibly happy to get that. I doubt very much that he told you on the phone that "You better give him a big tip". If so, stop ordering from that restaurant because there are much bigger issues in play. Unless the customer was a known ******* from the start, any driver who said anything like that to a customer would be out of a job fairly quickly in any decent restaurant.

Typically the people who order at the last minute do so consistently, and eventually, especially if they are a pain in the ass, we stop taking their orders close to the end of the night unless we are already quite busy, because staying for an extra 20-30 minutes to make a $30.00 order ends up losing the business money unless there are other orders going out at the same time. We have a very small staff, though, so obviously a big chain is going to have more bodies on site and it's going to make much less of a difference.

All take out tips in our restaurant go to whoever is cooking, and I have a steady base of customers that tip consistently enough that it is about 15% of my income, including the "tip pool" that the drivers pay into, which is 1% of what they deliver in a shift. I certainly understand why most people don't tip on take out, but it beyond the money, it just feels nice to be appreciated, especially when quite often the delivery drivers are getting constant bonuses for doing very little, relatively speaking.

Why even answer the phone if you don't want to deliver any more pizza? Better yet, why not just stop taking orders 30 minutes before you go home?

Exactly.

If the phone rings at a pizza restaurant, don't get all pissy when you decide to answer it and the guy on the other end actually wants a ****ing pizza.

That would piss me off too.

We have many customers that will call, often after we've closed, and keep calling until someone answers. I used to pick up and tell them we were closed so they can stop wasting their time calling, and so we don't have them calling over and over while we're trying to clean up at the end of the night. About half the time they would curse me out for answering the phone even though we were closed, so it was basically a lose-lose and I stopped doing that.

Outside of supper time, our busiest hour of the day is almost always the last hour, and when the deliveries are backed up and we're looking at close to an hour to get food out, I will answer the phone and tell people we can't do any more deliveries, but I'll gladly make anything they want for pickup.

The reason you don't stop taking orders 30 minutes before you go home is because there is never a set "go home" time in a restaurant when you are closing. Depending on how busy you've been, the clean up at the end of the night could be anywhere from 15 minutes to a couple hours if we've been slammed all night. I used to be inflexible about making sure we took orders right up until we were officially closed, but got burned too many times. The percentage of people who pass out before getting or paying for their food more than doubles in the last half an hour, but we are open later than any other delivery restaurant in my city, and after all the bars close.

If these businesses were forced to up their hourly wage significantly for low-level employees, guess who the cost would get passed on to?

Which is made up for by not having to tip.