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adding fuel to the fire

This isn't 1996; it's almost 2011. 15% is completely standard these days. Exceptional service is 25% or more. I work in a restaurant and it's not a surprise when someone tips me 25% or even more. My restaurant does a buffet for lunch and a dinner menu at night. Yesterday at lunch, a 3 top left me $20 in cash on a $37 credit card bill. It was pretty outrageous and undeserving but whatever. Today at lunch, a 2 top left me $7.5 on $22. This is a buffet too. Most buffets are not like this obv. But the food here is Indian cuisine, and I know how to talk to people and describe the dishes to customers.

My restaurant has a lot of Indian clientele which sucks. The ones who are not westernized leave 10% or less, if anything. They are EXTREMELY demanding. I had an ******* the other night tell me that he wanted one coke with one ice cube. No ****. If 6 or more come in they are getting the 18% instagrat. The other clientele make up for my wages. Affluent people who come in and have a check of $60 or whatever and leave me $12-$16. I make about $15/hr and can easily make $20/hr+ on weekend nights. It's not great money but without a college degree it's pretty good. And in my state it's actually pretty good tbh.

Being a server, I tip well too which has it's benefits. Nothing outrageous but good nonetheless. At my regular bars/pubs a lot of the cocktail servers know me and I am one of their top priorities when I am drinking. There's one bar I go to where the happy hour is $1.25 for a 16oz draft. After 6 my bill isn't **** but I'm still tipping a buck a beer. If the tab is $20 I'll leave $10. At this same bar one of the girls there (while on her shift) bought me and my friend a shot a piece because we treat her so well.

bragging about receiving something that costs .5x because you tip 2x when 1x is normal doesn't sound very smart.

I'm going to go back and read the thread because I assume the fire in question is "why should we tip people for doing their GODDAMNED JOB?" but this article is very lol in that regard.

BTW I've lived in the same place for a decade, with live guards at the gate. They give me a card every year during the holidays which I always assumed was a nice gesture. Only this year did it dawn on me that I "should" apparently be tipping in response, and I may throw them a $25 gift card or whatever because they are nice people but it's still kind of wtf.

I'll admit to only opening this thread cuz I saw that RRR had posted and that meant that there was likely a sick burn to be found, but anyway I agree. "Saving" a lot of money by massively overtipping is pretty bad logic. It's one thing to overpay to ingratiate yourself with staff like Hen.ry, but to claim it's a strategy which saves money doesn't make sense.

point4=less postll\

I was tipp[ing all around town..
straight up degan behaivor..wish me luck

meh no need to lock my thread..time for a new one anyways

Guess Ill bump a 4 year old thread since the rest are years old too and not been posted in for years

Weird posting under the above poster

Last month I was with a few friends and we were pretty drunk. I called pizza nova about 10 minutes before closing and ordered a pizza and the guy said to me...If I deliver this pizza I better get a good tip. Im like whatever man you arent even closed yet, Ill tip ya what I can and if thats not cool then forget the pizza. He took my order.

I think we had about $25 cash on us and the pizza was $22 total. So I used my credit card instead and gave him an $8 tip plus a $2 delivery fee.

He mad.

He said "if I knew this is all you were going to give me, youd be getting a raw pizza" I called the guy a few choice words, took the pizza and told him to get the **** outta here.

1 month later I get my credit card bill and see the total for the pizza for $85. The guy was so furious about my tip he tried to scam me for an extra $55 hoping I wouldnt check my bill and I was too drunk to remember. I guess they did a pre auth or something but didnt put the actual sale through til later on.

I called the manager and spoke to him and let him know what happened. He was polite and said he would fix it and said he would call me back,

Two days later he calls me back and said that the sale should stick because I told the guy I would give him a nice tip and that instead I have him a measily $8 on a $22 sale.

Im like yeah right on, so you think I should have tipped the guy over $55? Well theres a couple choices here, you can refund my money and this can end here or I can give you a ride home after work and we can discuss it.

In the end he ended up returning my money but wasnt happy about it.

Should I have tipped more or something, I thought I was reasonable.

$8 on a $22 pizza is a big enough tip that I don't believe your story.

Uhh you should know that it's not ok for pizza delivery guys to steal money from you. Idk what the ambiguity is here

yeah, I agree.

oh serious?

Your $8 tip was fine and this story seems as made up as hell anyway.

I think him suggesting a big tip for working past his shift and using his gas to drive to my house past his shift he was entitled to like $15 or something.

yeah I made up a story about pizza ..great way to spend my Sunday when I havent really posted on 2+2 very much over the last couple months

I felt like leveling OOT with this. Hope you enjoyed it

His shift is over when his last pizza is delivered. Also, why don't you check your credit card statement online?

this is bizarre. $8 is a pretty big tip. fairly certain i tipped a lower percentage last time i got delivery and the dude was shocked i didnt want change

Yeah thats sort of what I said to him but he made it sound like he was going out of his way..which I guess he sort of was. But i did tell him Ill give him what I choose and if thats not cool, no worries forget the pizza.

Ive had friends who deliever pizza and get $30 on $22 orders and some give like $2 or nothing at all. I think its obv when he suggests a big tip it was more than 8. And when he was rude about it and I told him to **** off he probably went back mad and over charged thinking I was smashed. I think he wasnt just some driver either, i think he was part owner and its a family run place so thats why he wasnt worried about trying to screw someone.

Im just asking because of the responses from both the guys I talked to expected some huge tip. I know the manager saying it should stick seems unbelievable but I think he was sort of angling like his guy wasnt trying to rip me off, thats what i gave him and was drunk and now regretting it.

$8 on a $22 delivery is a huge tip. I suppose if it's the only pizza he's delivering, and it's completely out of the way in that it'll take him more than 30 extra minutes to get home, he would feel like it's not objectively worth it.

But it's still his damn job so tough luck for him. I imagine your "few choice words" was what led him to try to scam you.

lol

I have often wondered how much this happens. I worked at a corporate restaurant for a few months and I often contemplated self adjusting ****ty tippers' tip amounts. Not $8 on a $22, but when someone left me $2 on a $50 tab despite near perfect service , I could barely restrain myself.

In work at a locally owned sushi joint now and the client base is much more affluent. Personally I tip 20% for mediocre service, rarely ever less, and more for good service, 30% plus for great service

yeah but i dont know what he expects when he tells me he should have brought me a raw pizza

Ive had it happen once before at a mall when I bought a shirt and on my bill, I was double charged for it. It could have been a mistake but I researched it a bit by googling around and I guess retailers do this more than we think.

As for a $2 tip on a $50 order of good service, thats pretty insulting but not much you can do aside from clench your teeth and tell them to **** off in your head. I usually give them the tax and add an extra $2-$4 on bills between $35 and $80. Works out to be 15% usually

And thus re-enforcing that ****ty service.

I tip very well for good service. I have also insult tipped on purpose in one instance of the worst service ever. I think I left like $0.36 or w/e change I had in my pocket.

+1

Ive left a couple nickels and a few pennies when someone has ignored me for 30 minutes straight

There is places that make you tip though. We were out for dinner last week and not only did the place add on a gratuity of 13% but also left a space on the bill to add another tip.

Waiting tables is a ****ing stressful job. If someone gives you bad service, they still are probably running around, making salads, doing side work, and countless other things without which your meal wouldn't end up on your table, all for $2 an hour. Unless someone is actively ignoring you, tipping 20 percent or more ought to be standard. And if you're that dissatisfied with the service, you should ask to see a manager and complain about the server.