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04-06-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by njpokerplayer24
took a small catering order(140$) to a house. tip was 15$ already paid for. Woman at the house offered me another 10$ but did not know tip was on receipt already. i told her that tip was already on there and did not take the money. Should i have not said anything and take the extra money?Also i think i would of taken it if the tip was less than 5$ on the receipt
You are dumb if you didn't. Once at the donut shop/diner, this was the afternoon shift so I worked by myself up front(I was counter help). I made tips plus min. wage(even got some raises). Anyway, we had hot glaze donuts, so while she was waiting for them to be cooked(YES THEY COOKED THEM TO ORDER THE GLAZE), she was paying for the donuts. Then decided she wanted an apple fritter which was $1.08 as I had already put the apple fritter in a bag, the donuts come out so I close the box and she hands me a $10 bill with a dime. She leaves says "KEEP THE CHANGE." I realize like when she walked out as I was going to put it in the correct slots she gave me a $10 bill, not a "$1" bill. I sure THE **** HELL DIDN'T GO REMIND HER. I KEPT THE CHANGE $9.02. Probably she didn't really want to leave me a $9 and 2 cent tip, but I don't care. I went by her WORDS. She told me to keep it. ANY IDIOT would actually tell the customer something. I was there to make money and if the woman is TOO STUPID TO TAKE 2 seconds to LOOK at the BILL SHE HANDED me then that's NOT MY ISSUE OR PROBLEM. She NEVER came back either for her change and she couldn't legally because she actually said the words "KEEP THE CHANGE." So she couldn't get it back anyways.

I sure the hell didn't run out to give it to her. ARE YOU CRAZY?? If someone is THAT STUPID and ********IRRESPONSIBLE*********, HOW THE **** IS THAT MY PROBLEM, HUH?

You should have kept it. I had to pay out the register when it was short over $2 and sometimes it was short, so it comes and goes I feel. Once, $80 somehow I had to pay out of my check. I don't know HOW it was short originally $100 and my boss said somehow they found $20 of it, but who knows if someone stole it that I worked with? I can't imagine I made that much of mistakes throughout one shift. Anyway, some other times it was $10 or $24.96(I remember that, because my boss was telling me not to nickle and dime customers so I told him well they take EVERY PENNY out of my check when I am short over $2 and sometimes we were short like especially one the weekends when they'd have more workers working 4-6 people up front to split tips on register. So anyway when it was short we'd all have it split out of our checks. So what I did about the boss's situation was that since he wanted to steal from me because of customers that were short, I made sure that whatever they were short with I didn't ring up and just put the money in the register. I sure the hell wasn't going to let my boss *******STEAL************* my money because some customers were short change. THAT'S NOT FAIR. For example, that $24.96 I was short imagine if the customer was short a nickle, that means I would have paid 5 cents more out of my own PERSONAL MONEY. **** THAT ****! That's stealing.

My point is, if you never take it, you will ALWAYS be PAYING. This way if you take it, you will get some back sometimes instead of never. I would do it again in a heart beat, because why did I have $80 out my paycheck one time or many of times had to pay $5-$10-$20 out my check because of being short? Most customers obviously weren't honest, WHY should I be? It goes both ways.

I feel if you never take it, you will always be the loser with money.

How do you know she didn't know the tip was on the receipt?
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04-06-2017 , 10:09 PM
So hypocritical.
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04-06-2017 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pudley4
Server picks up table 2's order in her left hand and your order in her right, at the same time.
It's not the "same time" though. Grabbing some plates for our table DOES take 3-5 SECONDS of time, IT DOES. EVERY SECOND IS EVERY SECOND.

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Where is the wasted time for table 2?
In the 3-5 SECONDS it took for the server to put it on the tray IDIOT(or in his or her other hand) IDIOT!

You aren't counting that YES that's extra time you took away from table 2's turn that was first. IT IS THOUGH.


WHY are you SO STUPID NOT TO SEE THIS? ARE YOU THIS DUMB? FOR REAL????

Remember, seconds count whether it's an orgasm or gun shot or a car accident or in traffic like you barely make the yellow light before it turns red to have to sit at the next long traffic red light, etc. SECONDS COUNT and YES SECONDS ARE CUTTING.

Just like when the waiter at Outback gave the 2nd table's one drink off of the tray before ours. That was only like 5 seconds worth, but it was STILL CUTTING, STILL TAKING UP *****OUR TURN********* and gave a lady at the 2nd table their drink first BEFORE OURS.

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Next question - when does table 2's "turn" end? If they ask for more ranch dressing, is it still their turn? So should the server go back and get them ranch before bringing your food? What about if the server comes back with the ranch and now they want a refill? Still their turn?
You are STUPID. Since our table actually placed our order ***********BEFORE*************** the ranch and refills, the ranch and refills are AFTER IDIOT. WE ASKED FIRST BEFORE THE RANCH AND REFILLS DUMBASS STUPID IDIOT. HOW CAN YOU BE SO STUPID??

It's just like if I ask for a refill at table 6, but the customer's food at table 4 is ready, well the customer ordered their food at table 4 BEFORE my refill even if it was 30 minutes ago, they did actually ASK for their well done steak(let's say for example), BEFORE my refill, therefore I wait. It's just common sense WHOEVER ASKS FIRST IS HOW TURNS GO YOU STUPID IDIOT. Now the only other situation is that if let's say someone has a mistake with their order well technically it IS STILL THEIR TURN since their turn wasn't complete. Now if they just don't like their food, that's different. I am talking about if the kitchen staff or server messed up the order, then even if I asked for a refill if the server is called over that table 8's food is still frozen(chicken) for example, obviously table 8's turn will be BEFORE MINE since their turn ORIGINALLY 25 minutes ago when they ordered BEFORE I DID. Table 8 didn't actually get their ENTIRE TURN COMPLETE because of a mistake that wasn't the customer's mistake. So it's not fair to punish the customer more longer just to get my refill when I didn't wait that long at that point even. At that point, it would have been a minute and a half before the server went back to the kitchen. Table 8 however waited 25 minutes, so yeah it was still their turn even though they were brought their food, it wasn't correct.

You are REALLY STUPID I have to explain that.


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Ok, now here is the tricky one - I guarantee you will say that if the server forgot something and had to go back and get it, they should be docked from table 2's tip AND from your tip, because they wasted your time, right?
NO, because table 2's service is not my service, so I don't count off for other people's service. WHO THE HELL WOULD?

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But HOW DO YOU KNOW IF THEY FORGOT SOMETHING OR IF THE CUSTOMER ASKED FOR IT RIGHT THEN FOR THE FIRST TIME?
You can **HEAR** REALLY WELL especially if the booth or table is behind you. I know because I actually **WATCH** what is going on and **LISTEN***, like DUH, that's how I know. Servers are usually pretty loud that I could hear them say things.

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For this question we'll put them all the way on the other side of a loud restaurant so your snoopy-ass can't hear. Do you DOCK the TIP or NOT?
They can't be since servers have SECTIONS, so that wouldn't honestly happen in reality.

If I literally couldn't know and see then obviously I couldn't dock anything, but it depends on the situation.

I usually 99.9% of the time KNOW what's going on. I see what the server is doing if they are going in order of turns or not in most cases.
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04-06-2017 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
So hypocritical.
HOW?
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04-06-2017 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Springs1
HOW?
We know you are disturbed, but do you honestly have so little insight that you can not see it?

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try swapping roles between customer and delivery person
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04-06-2017 , 10:34 PM
Is this thread the springs1 containment thread or should she be in the actual OOT containment thread?
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04-06-2017 , 10:37 PM
in the first scenario i did take the extra 5 dollars when the guy handed me 5$ in cash then signed his name and wrote in 5 extra $ for tip.

The 2nd scenario i did not take the extra 10$ because it was a small house party and the person who ordered was not there yet and the person who was there to receive the order did not see the receipt so i was honest. But if their was no tip i would of taken the 10 bucks even if she did not see the receipt.... my moral compass at work i guess
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04-06-2017 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown
I had something similar to this happen to me once.

We were at a hockey game in our company's box, and on my way there my boss called me and told me he wasn't going to make it and that i needed to pick up the bill. This was my first ever time in the box and we were all drinking a bunch.

Anyways, server hands me the bill, I pencil in 18% tip (max per company guideline) and think nothing of it. Didn't realize there was an 18% autograt on the bill. She says nothing.

I get home and see the mistake. I called there the next day and spoke to the manager, she reversed the additional tip, but I also asked that she speak with the server. This was clearly a case of someone being mistaken.

I tipped 18% on the bill total. I pointed out to her manager that I basically tipped 18% on the autograt.
To this to be like my first scenario would you have called the manager if you handed 18% tip in cash then write in another 18% on the credit card? if their was not auto grat
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04-06-2017 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rapini
Is this thread the springs1 containment thread or should she be in the actual OOT containment thread?
Tipping threads always suck.

Just change the thread title to Spring1ng imo.
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04-07-2017 , 10:36 AM
Wow Springs, you really are a piece of ****
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04-07-2017 , 11:22 AM
Springs,

So you were a THIEF not ringing up customers and STEALING from your employer. If they did not pay the full amount, you should still ring them up HONESTLY because that is your JOB and RESPONSIBILITY. If some of this was due to not charging them for like two cents on a 10.02 bill, then you should keep a record of the nickels and dimes you didn't charge them and request that short amount not be taken from your check. That is what an HONEST person does, instead of ILLEGALLY not ringing up sales and STEALING from the business. You are an IMMORAL person and a CRIMINAL!
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04-07-2017 , 11:29 AM
El D,

You are an HONEST, TRUSTWORTHY man and a LEGEND. You are also 100% CORRECT.

How much would you need to be paid to eat at a restaurant with Springs1?
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04-07-2017 , 12:02 PM
So the truth comes out. Springs1 is dishonest, and so she projects dishonesty on others.
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04-07-2017 , 12:45 PM
Tom,

I would not break bread with someone as IMMORAL as Springs.
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04-07-2017 , 03:59 PM
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Tom,

I would not break bread with someone as IMMORAL as Springs.
If you sat down with Springs, chances are you wouldn't get your hands on any of the bread anyway. OBESE + DISHONEST = NO BREAD FOR ANYONE ELSE BUT SPRINGS
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04-07-2017 , 04:01 PM
The bread is ***COMMUNAL*** which means that whoever is ********HUNGRIEST******** will get to eat it!

You'd have to be an IDIOT to do something like LEAVE BREAD BEHIND if you're the one who's *****HUNGRY***** enough to eat it.
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04-07-2017 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Springs1
It's not the "same time" though. Grabbing some plates for our table DOES take 3-5 SECONDS of time, IT DOES. EVERY SECOND IS EVERY SECOND.
I said that in this scenario there is one plate for table 2 and one plate for table 1. The server picks up one plate in each hand at the same time. How is that hard to understand?




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You are STUPID. Since our table actually placed our order ***********BEFORE*************** the ranch and refills, the ranch and refills are AFTER IDIOT. WE ASKED FIRST BEFORE THE RANCH AND REFILLS DUMBASS STUPID IDIOT. HOW CAN YOU BE SO STUPID??

Now the only other situation is that if let's say someone has a mistake with their order well technically it IS STILL THEIR TURN since their turn wasn't complete.




NO, because table 2's service is not my service, so I don't count off for other people's service.(ed.) even though it's wasting your time because the server screwed up and therefore you're going to get your food later now too WHO THE HELL WOULD?


If I literally couldn't know and see then obviously I couldn't dock anything, but it depends on the situation.
Yeah, that's what I figured. Your time isn't as important as you make it out to be. You just want to find excuses to be a miserable, whining, loud, condescending, cheapskate, *****.

Thanks for putting that down in writing for us.
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04-07-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Springs,

So you were a THIEF not ringing up customers and STEALING from your employer. If they did not pay the full amount, you should still ring them up HONESTLY because that is your JOB and RESPONSIBILITY. If some of this was due to not charging them for like two cents on a 10.02 bill, then you should keep a record of the nickels and dimes you didn't charge them and request that short amount not be taken from your check. That is what an HONEST person does, instead of ILLEGALLY not ringing up sales and STEALING from the business. You are an IMMORAL person and a CRIMINAL!
Plus she's dumb because how do you end up $100 short working at a donut shop? I can understand her being $100 short in merchandise because her fat-ass ate all the inventory that day, but $100 in cash? That's just dumb-dumb land.

And Springs, how does a customer "end up short"? You tell them "It's $10.54." They hand you $10. You say "It's 54 cents more." They pay or they don't get their food. Duh.

PS It's illegal for the employer to withhold it from your check, unless you specifically agree to it. If you do, you're dumb.
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04-07-2017 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil S
The bread is ***COMMUNAL*** which means that whoever is ********HUNGRIEST******** will get to eat it!

You'd have to be an IDIOT to do something like LEAVE BREAD BEHIND if you're the one who's *****HUNGRY***** enough to eat it.
LOLOLOL
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04-07-2017 , 09:02 PM
Being a self-confessed THIEF and ADVOCATE of SCAMMING is going to be a big hit to Springs1's reputation--pitiful as that may have already been.
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04-07-2017 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pudley4
I said that in this scenario there is one plate for table 2 and one plate for table 1. The server picks up one plate in each hand at the same time. How is that hard to understand?
How hard is it to understand that it takes you 2-3 SECONDS to get my plate on your hand you dumb STUPID ASS IDIOT! Cutting is cutting even if it's 1 or 2 seconds or 3 seconds worth. That's how STUPID YOU ARE that you don't know that.

That amount of time you put my plate on your other hand is time that you took away from table 2's turn. WHY THE HELL DO YOU NOT GET IT BY NOW, HUH??

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Your time isn't as important as you make it out to be.
It is, I just want things to be **FAIR**and I have morals, you obviously don't.

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You just want to find excuses to be a miserable, whining, loud, condescending, cheapskate, *****.
NO, I am NONE OF THAT and you know it. As I said, even at McDonald's, my feelings were hurt when the cashier was busy fixing bags when we wanted to order FOR HERE. Those bags can wait, customers SHOULD NEVER have to wait for OBJECTS! Especially those objects are not what we ordered since it was FOR HERE, NOT TO-GO.

You just don't understand that for customers seconds count. Obviously, you don't care about your time and turn that you have to be explained this.
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04-07-2017 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Springs1
How hard is it to understand that it takes you 2-3 SECONDS to get my plate on your hand you dumb STUPID ASS IDIOT! Cutting is cutting even if it's 1 or 2 seconds or 3 seconds worth. That's how STUPID YOU ARE that you don't know that.

That amount of time you put my plate on your other hand is time that you took away from table 2's turn. WHY THE HELL DO YOU NOT GET IT BY NOW, HUH??



It is, I just want things to be **FAIR**and I have morals, you obviously don't.
Is it not possible for a waitress to grab 2 plates at the same time?
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04-07-2017 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pudley4
Plus she's dumb because how do you end up $100 short working at a donut shop? I can understand her being $100 short in merchandise because her fat-ass ate all the inventory that day, but $100 in cash? That's just dumb-dumb land.
It's easy when you deal with money all day to be short because you end up giving too much change or wrong bills in the wrong slot going too fast.

Let me ask you, do you realize that there were a NUMBER of customers in drive-thru that gave me an extra $20 bill at times, $5 bill, etc. they didn't realize it because they were stuck together, huh??

Also, I had the lady that worked after my shift that went to jail for writing bad checks before and a boss that had a gambling problem, so WHO KNOWS if they stole it. That's how as well I could have been short.

At first I gave back the extra money, but instead of thanking me, they just said "sorry", so I got sick of it. I took the 2 $20 bills as if it was one and gave change as if it was one, nothing was asked for back, I kept the extra $20 bill. Did that at least twice for sure. So YEAH, even CUSTOMERS MESS UP $20 bills even. Once a lady gave 2 $5 bills and a 1 for something that was only $7 and something cents. When I saw that, I figured she probably thought she gave me a $5 bill and 2 $1 bills, so I gave change as if that was that and she NEVER said ANYTHING to me, NOT A WORD.

ANY OVERAGE was tip for us and only the last year I worked there was there a charity jar, which I hated, because it took away at least $1 a shift that we could have had at the VERY LEAST out of our money, because back then credit cards weren't widely used as much like you couldn't go into a Burger King and pay with a credit card back then, it didn't exist yet. So cash was usually given in most transactions unlike today,where it's the complete total opposite.

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And Springs, how does a customer "end up short"? You tell them "It's $10.54." They hand you $10. You say "It's 54 cents more." They pay or they don't get their food. Duh.
So I answered your question above. It's EASY for someone to have a shortage in their register. Once, I went get gas some place(this was around 2001 or so) and it was in a small town. This lady was on the phone that rung me up and said I looked like someone she knew I told her I didn't know her. I paid with a $10 bill for $8 of gas, she gave me back $12 as if I gave her a $20 bill. At first I didn't notice until I walked out and NO I didn't go back to correct her mistake. Did people always do that for me? NO, OBVIOUSLY, so WHY should I for them? It's a 2-way street. Now sometimes I was lucky and some customers did give it back, but as I said before, I was honest to tell them they gave me an extra $20 bill, but I got so sick of not being thanked and as I said I could have kept more if I would have kept my mouth shut.

I look at it as since most people weren't honest, WHY should I have been? It's not fair unless they were always honest and I never had to pay it out my check.

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PS It's illegal for the employer to withhold it from your check, unless you specifically agree to it. If you do, you're dumb.
You can say illegal all you want, but it happens. An office job I worked at, the person that trained me told me she worked as an Applebee's waitress and the manager made her pay for a walk-out, so she quit. It HAPPENS. You think it's illegal, but in actuality nothing is done about it. They didn't get arrested. Seriously, say what you want, but that's how it works. Restaurant type of jobs are like that. You have a register and you are responsible for it. Why should the employer pay for my mistakes of giving too much change? It is ONLY FAIR HONESTLY.

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04-07-2017 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jh12547
Is it not possible for a waitress to grab 2 plates at the same time?
It would still be harder to hold and most likely the server would not be moving NEARLY as quickly to the tables holding more items and more likely drop something.

Most likely they wouldn't have their 2 hands and just scoop them up simultaneously. I just don't see that happening. Could it happen? Possibly, but likely, NO.
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04-07-2017 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Springs1
It would still be harder to hold and most likely the server would not be moving NEARLY as quickly to the tables holding more items and more likely drop something.

Most likely they wouldn't have their 2 hands and just scoop them up simultaneously. I just don't see that happening. Could it happen? Possibly, but likely, NO.
lol it's very possible unless you lack basic coordination
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