Or good food - unless you think you can just indifferently slap some random reasonably-high-quality ingredients on standard crusty french bread and call it a good sandwich.

Subway isn't world class. But it's better than 95% of grocery store sandwiches I've had. Unless they're different where you live.

Safeway ingredients are quite a bit better than Subway, plus the bread is legit. But, as mentioned, they take forever to get made and the "artist" secretly (or outwardly) hates you for having to make it. How about we move this to the FF thread where this hasn't been talked about for at least 2 weeks.

I accept your offer, Johnny.

YO! I'm about to make up for all of the crap posts you have suffered through from me in one shot with a game changer.

Call in your order, y'all. It will be ready for you when you arrive. Your favorite sandwich from your favorite place.

Bonus, all the saps in the long line will be pissed off at you when you bounce in and out, even though they shouldn't be.

Subway is trash tier food. The bread is of the worst available quality and the produce inside the sandwich is low quality. You must have never been to a real sandwich place that values proper produce and real bread if you think there is no difference. Either that or you just like trash food in general.

Yeah what happens when 3/4 of orders are call ins like that, and the regular human line is still just as long? Orders from Subway web app, also from grubhub or whatever other disruptive $100M/quarter-losing-Uber-for-sandwiches-app wants to connect up. It's gonna be chaos. Unsustainable imo - so enjoy it while you can.

You spelled Quiznos wrong.

I agree the bread is the biggest difference between Subway and a decent sandwich. That crap is probably 50% sawdust, Leningrad-style. But the produce is pretty low on the value-below-replacement list for Subway:

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Yeah I can dig it. Dialing in your sandwich order at a deli is not the same as uber eats for disruption, imo. It's old school.

That said I wouldn't encourage a call in or using an app at subway. I suspect eating chips in line with the florescent light gleaming off the Formica while staring at one's phone is probably part of the overall experience.

Suzzer,

Places that get tons of call-in/online orders are able to hire more people to focus on those. People get better service, and the restaurant makes more money.

And Grubhub made like $40M ebitda earnings last quarter, $15M net income.

My local chicken place is getting backed up with grubhub or uber eats or w/e orders. It's annoying. And they're set up to handle lots of takeout.

The problem when you call on the phone they can say "It's gonna be 15/25/35/45 minutes". I don't know if there's a way to give that level of fine-grained feedback to grubhub, but even if there is I know this place isn't set up to give it. The kid basically looks back at all the orders and estimates a number.

So what happens is the grubhub orders don't get that feedback of "hey we're pretty full right now" - which naturally filters some phone orders out - as people don't want to wait.

And apparently grubhub takes an hour or something because all their orders are always sitting there when the driver shows up - no matter how backed up the place is. Yuck. I know that place well - the chicken loses like 10% deliciousness every 5 minutes it sits before eating. Piping hot - it's sublime. Luke warm - it's ok. I want to be there and grab it right as it comes out. And even then I often just eat in because it's so much better fresh.

What I really can't figure out is the restaurants that are set up primarily as a sit-down place - and take out orders upset the whole system. I haven't looked at grubhub in a while, but I seem to remember some of those apps listing restaurants that I know are not equipped to handle any kind of takeout volume. That seems like a gigantic mess waiting to happen. Also takeout from those places almost always tastes like crap after sitting around in a silver tin for an hour.

What cracks me up is some of the sandwich snobs on here probably drive 15 minutes with their hot sandwich and lose half its flavor in the process, or their cold sandwich gets soggy. Or they order grubhub from nice places and eat horrible food that's been sitting around drying out or getting soggy and mushy.

I can eat a 5 Guys burger. But by the 12 minutes or so it takes to get to my house it's a horrible soggy mess. I don't really want to sit in 5 Guys, so I never go there.

Suzzer,

Everything you mention is a function of the restaurant operator. It’s no different than them running some big promotion and not staffing up appropriately to handle the extra customers. Good operators manage stuff like that well, bad operators don’t.

This is "orders of magnitude" better than Subway?
I've been to many great delis in New York and San Francisco. Are the sandwiches tasty? Yes, very. Are they better than Subway? Sure, some. But Subway is fine - even a good deal for the price and convenience.

I will admit that on my own personal pleasure scale the best food I ever had is only a small bit ahead of my normal everyday fare. And the low end of most food available is only slightly below that. My tastes are mostly binary - good or will not eat.

Did,


That’s totally fine/reasonable, but it basically makes your opinion on this topic worthless.

Yeah and some/most places probably will never be able to handle high-volume online orders, but the $$ will be too enticing for them. So it will be a mess for a while until things shake out. Which pisses me off because I want my chicken.

I dont eat Subway or takeout.

Not sure where I sit on this issue. Not sure why Subway is singled out and not say Taco Bell.

I'm becoming a huge foodie - but not to the point I can't avoid decent utilitarian food when it's much more convenient. Maybe there's some step where you cross a line and it gets serious - like when male road bikers start shaving their legs.

I do have a buddy who will only eat at like 2 or 3 sushi places in all of LA. Everything else is not up to his standards. I don't think I'll ever be that picky. There's lots of very good sushi here.

Also there's really stupid **** like 200 hipsters waiting in line for ramen at 7pm - when there are like 20 ramen places within a few blocks which are almost as good. WTF - ramen is utilitarian drunk late night food, not destination dinner food worth waiting forever for.

Hipsters **** up everything. Also LA people love to wait in line in general.

Which is why I love Torrance. So much delicious cheap Asian food - and the hipsters will never make it down that far. Unless Bourdain does a Torrance show or something - God forbid.

Suzzer,

What kind of chicken are you talking about?

Actually, I would argue it makes me a man of the people.

Subway is light years ahead of most fast food. I feel sick after Taco Bell, McD's, Burger King, etc. Subway at least has mostly fresh ingredients w/o edible sawdust or pink slime or whatever preservatives those other places put in everything. Wendy's doesn't make me feel sick - so I assume their ingredients are better too.

What's the point of getting ramen if you're not getting it from the place everyone's going to?

Dids v.1 knew a good sandwich, he just couldn't order one.

Mediterranean Rotisserie Chicken. http://pouletdujour.com/ I think the owners are from Jordan.

This place is up there with Zankhou chicken, which is incredible. But there's none close to me.

At 7pm no less.

Ramen can be both very utilitarian and have a long line for the best places/newest places. Thats essentially how it is in Japan.

Similar to burgers in major US cities.