Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Other Other Topics Discussion of arts & entertainment, pop culture, food & drink, health and exercise, fashion, relationships, work, and just about anything else in life except poker, sports, religion and politics.

View Poll Results: Which of these Ralph Steadman images do you now best?
1 0 0%
2 2 3.70%
3 33 61.11%
4 4 7.41%
I don't know any of these. 15 27.78%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-13-2018, 03:26 PM   #1
ElSapo
Pooh-Bah
 
ElSapo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: With Abandon.
Posts: 4,675
Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Bit of a random question, but polls are fun and these images are amazing.

Ralph Steadman is the artist whose work is often associated with Hunter Thompson's writing. The two were fortuitously paired on a story covering the Kentucky Derby, which launched a long, successful, often strained literary collaboration that spanned decades.

Arguably his/their most famous work is Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas. Published originally in two parts in Rolling Stone, Steadman illustrated the work in his characteristic style. Those images have gone on to be used in many reprintings, from books to posters.

I have a small collection of Thompson/Steadman stuff. One of the original Rolling Stones with F&L (the first half), a couple of Steadman prints, a signed poster from a Thompson lecture in 1984 at ASU.

Long story short, I'm trying to get a sense for what images are most-associated and famous ... Of these four drawings, which do you know best? Which have you seen the most often, or at all?

1.


2.

3.

4.
ElSapo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 03:32 PM   #2
sixfour
should be called sevenfour
 
sixfour's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Fire Rod Harrington
Posts: 58,998
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Never seen any of them
sixfour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 03:44 PM   #3
dkgojackets
DKGOAT
 
dkgojackets's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: #benzo
Posts: 82,438
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

the only things I have heard of in your post are the Kentucky Derby and Rolling Stone
dkgojackets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 04:04 PM   #4
El Diablo
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
El Diablo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 66,718
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Sapo,

3, 1, 4, never seen 2.
El Diablo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 04:30 PM   #5
Cranberry Tea
Pooh-Bah
 
Cranberry Tea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 5,757
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

I don't recognize any, but is he the guy who does the artwork for Flying Dog Brewery?


Cranberry Tea is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 04:39 PM   #6
ElSapo
Pooh-Bah
 
ElSapo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: With Abandon.
Posts: 4,675
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Quote:
I don't recognize any, but is he the guy who does the artwork for Flying Dog Brewery?
Yup. Ralph Steadman. He's a great artist even if he never met HST. In some ways his story kinda got hijacked.
ElSapo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 05:04 PM   #7
HUMBLE.
adept
 
HUMBLE.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: on my grind, cousin.
Posts: 903
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Great writing by the late, great, as mentioned in the OP.



‘The Kentucky Derby Is Decadent and Depraved,’ by Hunter S. Thompson

http://grantland.com/features/lookin...entucky-derby/
HUMBLE. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 05:10 PM   #8
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S
What SN is this?
 
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: RoMAN EmpIre ЯR ЯR
Posts: 28,838
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

I'm a bit confused. Are you asking which F&L scene is the most famous?

Or which of those fan art paintings people have seen before?

If the former, then 1 or 3, if the latter then I haven't seen any.
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 05:11 PM   #9
ElSapo
Pooh-Bah
 
ElSapo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: With Abandon.
Posts: 4,675
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Yes. The Kentucky Derby piece is not only the first appearance* of his "Gonzo" style but is also a fantastic introduction to his work.

Thompson's story is really fascinating. He created a persona, a character, and it became more famous than him. ...

*Maybe this is debatable, I'm not a HST scholar I've just read most of his stuff and am a fan.
ElSapo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 05:12 PM   #10
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S
What SN is this?
 
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: RoMAN EmpIre ЯR ЯR
Posts: 28,838
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dkgojackets View Post
the only things I have heard of in your post are the Kentucky Derby and Rolling Stone
I would strongly recommend watching F&L... it's Johnny Depp before he became retarded and probably his last great movie apart from Blow.
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 05:13 PM   #11
ElSapo
Pooh-Bah
 
ElSapo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: With Abandon.
Posts: 4,675
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S View Post
I'm a bit confused. Are you asking which F&L scene is the most famous?

Or which of those fan art paintings people have seen before?

If the former, then 1 or 3, if the latter then I haven't seen any.
"fan"?

Anyways, the second. I'm curious which, of the artwork Steadman produced related to F&L LV, is most well known.

I've seen #3 on mass-produced posters, and I don't think any of his other work has been reprinted that way.
ElSapo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 06:02 PM   #12
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S
What SN is this?
 
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: RoMAN EmpIre ЯR ЯR
Posts: 28,838
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Oops I should have read the OP a little more closely =/
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 06:05 PM   #13
Didace
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
Didace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 12,591
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

I've never seen any of them. But then I'm more of a Bob Ross type of guy.
Didace is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 08:55 PM   #14
kioshk
Nixonian
 
kioshk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: the paranoid style
Posts: 90,464
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Steadman's real art has been in loving Oprah.
kioshk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2018, 11:39 PM   #15
offTopic
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
offTopic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: I guarantee it.
Posts: 17,407
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

I was surprised to find out that that is not the artist who did the art for The Wall.
offTopic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 03:40 PM   #16
Hero Protagonist
grinder
 
Hero Protagonist's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 511
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElSapo View Post
Yup. Ralph Steadman. He's a great artist even if he never met HST. In some ways his story kinda got hijacked.
What makes you say he never met Hunter Thompson?

I recommend The Curse of Lono by HST which is thoroughly illustrated by Steadman. The book chronicles a trip by Hunter to Hawaii to cover a marathon in the early eighties and Steadman goes along for a part of it. Hard to get a copy now but well worth it.



Hero Protagonist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 04:05 PM   #17
Steve350
adept
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 735
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kioshk View Post
Steadman's real art has been in loving Oprah.
I let it go the first time but on the second reading...
Steve350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 05:14 PM   #18
WateryBoil
Pooh-Bah
 
WateryBoil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: And mine are long and sharp my Lord
Posts: 4,252
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

pic #3 ainec
WateryBoil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 05:17 PM   #19
ReasonableGuy
old hand
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Seattle WA USA
Posts: 1,357
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero Protagonist View Post
What is he clutching in this photo? Some sort of fish-bashing club? Polynesian royalty scepter? Drug storage and transport device?
ReasonableGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 05:18 PM   #20
ElSapo
Pooh-Bah
 
ElSapo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: With Abandon.
Posts: 4,675
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero Protagonist View Post
What makes you say he never met Hunter Thompson?
Yeah, of course he met him. They knew each other for decades. I was just trying to say that aside from his connectionto Thompson, Steadman was a great artist.

Some people know his work only because of F&L in Las Vegas, and really just associate him with HST.
ElSapo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 05:24 PM   #21
OmgGlutten!
veteran
 
OmgGlutten!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,524
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

4,3,1 seem equally recognizable. Not 2.
OmgGlutten! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 05:28 PM   #22
ElSapo
Pooh-Bah
 
ElSapo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: With Abandon.
Posts: 4,675
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReasonableGuy View Post
What is he clutching in this photo? Some sort of fish-bashing club? Polynesian royalty scepter? Drug storage and transport device?
Polynesian war club.

When I read Curse of Lono I really enjoyed it, but apparently Thompson in the end just wrote the project off. He considered it Steadman's book, and one story I've heard is that an editor came to Thompson's Owl Farm (what he called his place), and ultimately took all the notes and work and finsihed sections and just kind of bandaged it all together.

I read The Jokes Over, which is Steadman's retrospective on his time working with Thompson. It leaves no doubt that there was a lot of bitterness at times.
ElSapo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 05:38 PM   #23
SirOsis
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
SirOsis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Cowboy territory with no sheriff
Posts: 27,851
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

I voted #4 because I've seen that one in more places, not just the books of HST or the works of Steadman
SirOsis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2018, 07:51 PM   #24
Dr. Meh
old hand
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 1,257
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

Overrated.
Dr. Meh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2018, 03:47 AM   #25
thechef
adept
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,049
Re: Which of these images from Fear & Loathing is most famous?

1 and 4 I could have related to Hunter even without the writing. 2, I couldn't have related to Hunter in isolation. I might have guessed but I wouldn't have been sure. 1 seems vaguely familiar but that could be my mind playing tricks because I can easily tell what it depicts.

3, however, strikes me as very familiar. I can't even make a stab at where I've seen it other than in the books but I figure I must have. I haven't read Hunter for more than a decade and I wasn't paying attention to the illustrations. For the image to be so much more familiar, I must have seen it elsewhere.
thechef is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2017, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online