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08-06-2010 , 01:46 PM
^ LOL

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Originally Posted by blackchilli

Android has the biggest OS marketshare.
False.
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08-06-2010 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Donktastic

False.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/02/c...ead-in-us-wit/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/n...n-smartphones/

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Android-...news-7687.html

http://fixed-mobile-convergence.tmcn...rtphone-os.htm

http://gigaom.com/2010/08/02/android...ne-in-the-u-s/

I was talking about the US market of course. For what it's worth, Apple is 3rd.

Either way OP I think an iPhone 4 is a decent choice. It's between that and Android IMO. Choosing an iPhone just because it has the biggest marketshare (which it doesn't) isn't a good idea.
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08-06-2010 , 02:03 PM
If you actually read any of those articles you would know that all they are saying is that the Droid OS outsold the other OS just for that quarter, but that they still only have about 9% of the overall market.

And of course Apple is going to not sell a lot of phones in a quarter where everyone knows that the iphone 4 is coming out soon. I'm sure they are going to crush the 3rd quarter.
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08-06-2010 , 02:15 PM
Either way Blackberry is still at the top.

You're right about that actually. I took 'best selling' as most popular. My bad.
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08-06-2010 , 02:50 PM
Apple fan boy ITT
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08-06-2010 , 03:27 PM
This just in: Online poker player doesn't know stuff about the 9 to 5 business world. My bad, I'll stfu .
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08-06-2010 , 03:33 PM
Help me talk my boss into making iphones our new company phone.
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08-06-2010 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by triplej2688
As the title says, I need a reason to NOT get an iphone 4.
?????
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08-06-2010 , 08:11 PM
5* thread imo
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08-06-2010 , 08:40 PM
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08-11-2010 , 05:20 PM
Does anyone know if I purchase BB TORCH from the US come August 12th if it will work with a BELL carrier in Canada????
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08-11-2010 , 06:31 PM
droid x ftw
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08-11-2010 , 06:44 PM
AT&T
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08-11-2010 , 08:18 PM
trip - I had a BB9000 and really loved it. But I like my iPhone 4 so much better. My internet is faster. I don't know what else to say except I thought I'd hate have a touchscreen but this one is so user friendly
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08-11-2010 , 10:00 PM
fwiw i just bought a droid and love it in almost every single way. get the incredible or better yet the droid x.
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08-11-2010 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by adizzle13
fwiw i just bought a droid and love it in almost every single way. get the incredible or better yet the droid x.
is this even att?
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08-12-2010 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Help me talk my boss into making iphones our new company phone.
I can actually make that argument slightly as funny as it sounds , except that it still has yet to be proven if a jailbroken phone with rogue software can access the GOOD partition that's suppose to be encrypted/inaccessible to the personal/user side.
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08-12-2010 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by triplej2688
is this even att?
no, but i didnt think that was an issue. is it?
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08-12-2010 , 10:20 AM
I just spent a week in Canada, on a driving vacation through Acadia and Quebec. (I live in the US.) While there, I rediscovered how wonderful my iPhone (a jailbroken 3Gs) is — or rather, how wonderful it ought to be. I used it for navigation (just the default map program), e-mail, text, a little phone (which it's not great at, of course), my flashlight while camping, my alarm clock... all the things an iPhone should do, imo. It worked fast, well, just about all the time.

There is exactly one good reason for OP not to get an iPhone, if he's in the US: AT&T. Whichever carrier(s) it is in Canada have done what a decent carrier does: they've ensured that they have solid coverage everywhere that matters. Meanwhile, AT&T makes noises about its allegedly huge investments in its network but the bottom line remains that that network is horrible.

In Canada I had great coverage, 4+ bars of 3G, on mountaintops, on ferries many miles from shore, in urban canyons and tiny villages, and in timberland many miles from the nearest town. When I crossed the border into Vermont I immediately went from five bar 3G to one bar of Edge; it's stayed at bad edge coverage through most of New Hampshire, even the state capital and the largest city. It's bad throughout Maine, as far as I can tell. And this isn't just a New England thing — I still cannot get consistent coverage at my own home in Chicago, the third-largest market in the United States. I can't get data coverage anywhere near my grandmother's house in Pennsylvania. It doesn't work at my mother's house, in a perfectly normal suburb of Tucson. They just supposedly doubled their coverage in New York City and reports are that it's still worse there than Verizon's. It is also notoriously poor in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Washington DC.

Nor is it just a Canada thing, the idea that an iPhone-capable network can actually work — I recently drove around Scotland, and again loved my iPhone there (until international data rates made me put it away). Isolated moors? No problem, we gotcha, with 3G.

I realize this isn't news to almost anyone, and it really wasn't to me, just a reminder, but someone contemplating an iPhone purchase may not realize just how bad this is. If you travel, you will find yourself with terrible coverage, in places where the Verizon etc. users do fine. Anyone who intends to rely on a phone while traveling in the US should not have an iPhone. Everyone who has used AT&T's network anywhere but the few places where it's strong knows: it's awful. Their coverage maps look pretty but are lies; you need to assume that in any rural area, and quite a few cities, you will not get 3G coverage, and your data service will be either slow or nonexistent.

I stay with my iPhone out of inertia, I guess, but someone contemplating a new phone doesn't have that going against him. Do not get an iPhone if you live in the US.

Last edited by atakdog; 08-12-2010 at 10:30 AM.
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08-12-2010 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
Everyone who has used AT&T's network anywhere but the few places where it's strong knows: it's awful. Their coverage maps look pretty but are lies; you need to assume that in any rural area, and quite a few cities, you will not get 3G coverage, and your data service will e either slow or nonexistent.
Not even remotely close to being true. I've had an iphone on AT&T for over 2 years and service has been great. There are far worse carriers with regards to coverage (ie - T-mobile). Satisfaction with AT&T is along the lines of other carriers:

http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/23/tech..._att/index.htm
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08-12-2010 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Phildo
so sales are the best measure of quality?



best food in the world
the mcrib is in fact the best non-blt sandwich in the world
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08-12-2010 , 10:38 AM
I suspect people just have low expectations, at least as reported by that one survey. And that's one survey - I just saw Consumer Reports' cell phone report a couple days ago and was reminded that their customer satisfaction surveys consistently put AT&T at the bottom in most markets. (Linked to the most recent of their surveys that I could find.)

I have been dozens of places where my friends with Verizon phones have good coverage while I could not make calls and/or use data services. Here in New Hampshire, no one has problems with their Verizon phones but you see very few iPhones because they don't ****ing work. I had to walk down the block at my office in Chicago when I needed to use my iPhone, while my coworkers with Verizon and t-Mobile were fine. Two different relatives who moved to Tucson found themselves needing to switch away from AT&T because the coverage at their homes and around the city was so bad. I have nearly given up trying to use it on rural Interstates, relying instead, when possible, on passengers with Verizon phones. (T-Mobile is even worse in those areas.)

Last week I was even treated to the sight of people finishing the climb of Mt Katahdin, a 5000 foot mountain in Maine and the northern terminus of the Appalachian Trail, calling people to tell them about it. No iPhones among those callers, of course, and I had zero coverage.

Apparently when I got my first iPhone soon after launch I was in one of the places where it works well (Austin, which an Apple employee once told me they cite as one of the best); since then, I have never found a populated place where AT&T works well and other carriers don't, but the opposite has been true in many places at any times.

Last edited by atakdog; 08-12-2010 at 10:44 AM.
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08-12-2010 , 10:46 AM
From the Consumer reports article to which I linked:
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To hear that AT&T (T) ranked dead last in customer satisfaction in high-profile markets like New York and San Francisco isn’t all that surprising. New Yorkers often carp about dropped AT&T calls, and complaints about lousy service in the Bay Area are legion.

But to find that the carrier placed last in 17 other cities as well suggests that AT&T’s shortcomings are more widespread than the carrier would have us believe and not simply the product of a high concentration of iPhones in the country’s larger cities.
I'd venture to say that the CNN article to which obsidian linked is an outlier.
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08-12-2010 , 10:49 AM
Also, obsidian: that AT&T has broader coverage than t-Mobile is not really in dispute. I'm just pointing out that they have horrible coverage relative to the competitor that matters.

That you have not had difficulty is probably a reflection of where you live and where you've traveled. I have traveled extensively and talked with many people who do so even more; no one I know who goes to a large number of different places in the US thinks AT&T's coverage is good. Remember those survey results: dead last in 19 of 26 cities. If you have no problems with AT&T you are among the lucky few.

Last edited by atakdog; 08-12-2010 at 10:56 AM.
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08-12-2010 , 12:04 PM
My storm 1 is ruined, Im debating switching over to an iphone4 as well. However my experiance with the blackberry was awesome. If Iphone can do all this then Ill probably end up getting it, if not maybe storm2 or torch? not sure Im limited for options.

-gps map program
-huge screen
-the double-click screen is deadly...i know iphone wont have it:/ something like it?
-golf gps
-ability to "toss on mp3s" and listen to them whenever.
-pair up to a bluetooth gateway for music


I also loved the way it orgranized sms/email etc....Dont know why everyone is complaining about the internet browser. I used the native browser and opera both were awesome.

The only crappy thing is the lack of application memory on the storm. Storm2 supposedly has way more so there we go....
But one thing I NEED....and thats a HUUUUUUGE screen. I wont look at it if its tiny.
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