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01-19-2018 , 02:20 PM
I've seen a friend's wife get so mad that he "over tipped" the server, that as our group was leaving she pocketed $30 of the $40 tip (~$170) tab.
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01-19-2018 , 04:05 PM
That's not stingy, that's theft.
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01-19-2018 , 07:03 PM
I don't think it's theft if it's her own husband that she was mad at about the overtipping.

But wow, what a witch.
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01-19-2018 , 07:48 PM
Tough to tell for sure, but as worded ("group"), I was imagining multiple couples or family units.

EDIT: I guess he did say she was mad that HE overtipped, so perhaps the tab was all his. In which case I agree with you.
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01-19-2018 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
I don't think it's theft if it's her own husband that she was mad at about the overtipping.

But wow, what a witch.
Once it is put on the table, I would consider it to be the server's. Hence theft. I will bet the server would agree.

But I'd hate to argue either way in court.
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01-19-2018 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
Once it is put on the table, I would consider it to be the server's. Hence theft. I will bet the server would agree.

But I'd hate to argue either way in court.
Amen, the husband took care of the entire check btw. This is theft from a server.

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01-19-2018 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
Once it is put on the table, I would consider it to be the server's. Hence theft. I will bet the server would agree.

But I'd hate to argue either way in court.
Really going out on a limb there!
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01-19-2018 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
Once it is put on the table, I would consider it to be the server's. Hence theft. I will bet the server would agree.

But I'd hate to argue either way in court.
I'll make sure to never toss cash to a friend across the table or even put my wallet on the table from now on.
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01-19-2018 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by de captain
Really going out on a limb there!
de captain obvious

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Originally Posted by txdome
I'll make sure to never toss cash to a friend across the table or even put my wallet on the table from now on.
I had incorrectly assumed that everyone itt would know what the meaning of it is. But at least nobody (so far) thought that "it" referred to the food served. But I eagerly await somebody to chime in to that effect.
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01-19-2018 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
I'll make sure to never toss cash to a friend across the table or even put my wallet on the table from now on.
Apparently I was stealing today when I accepted change from my server. Who knew?
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01-19-2018 , 11:37 PM
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I had incorrectly assumed that everyone itt would know what the meaning of it is. But at least nobody (so far) thought that "it" referred to the food served. But I eagerly await somebody to chime in to that effect.
Wat?
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01-19-2018 , 11:53 PM
"it" is not a tip until it goes into the waiters pocket. Even then, there are gray areas.
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01-19-2018 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
"it" is not a tip until it goes into the waiters pocket. Even then, there are gray areas.
so i can walk by tables and steal tips left for the servers?
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01-20-2018 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by foatie
I've seen a friend's wife get so mad that he "over tipped" the server, that as our group was leaving she pocketed $30 of the $40 tip (~$170) tab.
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"it" is not a tip until it goes into the waiters pocket. Even then, there are gray areas.
The above was the post that began this discussion. The group was leaving. The money was on the table. foatie obviously believed the (excess?) money was a tip. Are people seriously arguing that someone other than the person who set it on the table can pick up all or part of the intended tip rather than letting the server have it (ie, the intended tip)? Tough crowd.
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01-20-2018 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
The above was the post that began this discussion. The group was leaving. The money was on the table. foatie obviously believed the (excess?) money was a tip. Are people seriously arguing that someone other than the person who set it on the table can pick up all or part of the intended tip rather than letting the server have it (ie, the intended tip)? Tough crowd.
If it is someone's spouse they get a pass in public's eye. Her husband should divorce her though.
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01-20-2018 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
so i can walk by tables and steal tips left for the servers?
No, because you have nothing to do with the transaction. A guy and his wife bickering about a tip, with money pulled from their bank account, can alter the amount on the table, not some random walking by. comma

Last edited by txdome; 01-20-2018 at 12:16 AM.
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01-20-2018 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
The above was the post that began this discussion. The group was leaving. The money was on the table. foatie obviously believed the (excess?) money was a tip. Are people seriously arguing that someone other than the person who set it on the table can pick up all or part of the intended tip rather than letting the server have it (ie, the intended tip)? Tough crowd.
Assuming that they share joint finances, decisions about expenditures, including tipping, should be joint. I suppose if she went out of her way to hide it from her husband that could morally be considered theft, but even that is a stretch.

She sounds like a singularly stingy and unpleasant person, but she's not a thief.
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01-20-2018 , 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Assuming that they share joint finances, decisions about expenditures, including tipping, should be joint. I suppose if she went out of her way to hide it from her husband that could morally be considered theft, but even that is a stretch.

She sounds like a singularly stingy and unpleasant person, but she's not a thief.
My wife and I maintain separate finances. We pay for absolutely no meals out jointly. One or the other picks up the check. If I left a cash tip, and she picked some or all of it up as we were leaving the table would she be a thief? If she did it with my knowledge? If she did it while I wasn't looking?
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01-20-2018 , 01:14 AM
No it would almost, but not quite, be the equivalent of her telling you to not waste money, We still have a mortgage and kids and blah blah to pay for.
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01-20-2018 , 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
My wife and I maintain separate finances. We pay for absolutely no meals out jointly. One or the other picks up the check. If I left a cash tip, and she picked some or all of it up as we were leaving the table would she be a thief? If she did it with my knowledge? If she did it while I wasn't looking?
If you have separate finances it is your money until the server picks it up. She has no right to take what isn't hers without your consent.
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01-20-2018 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
If you have separate finances it is your money until the server picks it up. She has no right to take what isn't hers without your consent.
Agree.

I think it would be the same for a married couple with joint finances--especially if the person picking up the intended tip did not tell the spouse and kept the cash.

But thieves always seem to be able to rationalize their actions by "well, this isn't really stealing because ..."
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01-20-2018 , 04:15 PM
I'm fine if you call it stealing, but the question was whether she was stealing from the waiter or her husband. You seem to think it is stealing from the waiter, which is ******ed.
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01-20-2018 , 04:26 PM
foatie,

Any chance they are in tremendous debt and this was the straw that broke the camel's back with regards to the wife trying to reel in his excessive spending?

Seems grimy by the wife for sure, but if they are in dire financial straits it could be frustrating to watch your spouse continually waste money in an attempt to impress their friends.
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01-20-2018 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
I'm fine if you call it stealing, but the question was whether she was stealing from the waiter or her husband. You seem to think it is stealing from the waiter, which is ******ed.
My line of demarcation is when it is placed in the cardholder or left on the table with no signs of doubt from the person who left it. My thinking is at that point he has designated it to the server for services rendered and the wife has no more right to it than any other bystander. IMO there may be room for quibbling if she removes it in front of the husband and returns it to him.

FTR I am fine if she stops hubby prior to his laying it down and "discusses" the issue at that point--even if the entire sum is withdrawn by either of them. That simply places her in a category other than "thief."
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01-20-2018 , 10:50 PM
holy ****, what a terrible derail.
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