now i know its totally ok to never ever tip a dime at all, what the **** are u thinking ?

you dont know nothing about this guy (and other non tippers)

maybe he works 60 hours a week so he can afford his 6 beers a week which is his highlight ? and u ****in ruin his day with ur ****ty service..

lol im really into no tipping ever again mood right now after reading ur post who the hell do you think you are, srsly ???

Yeah, that's pretty stingy and probably not uncommon.

I don't think this is stingy exactly but it reminds me of one guy I know who will collect the cash from everyone's share for the check and then want to put the whole thing on his own credit-card so he gets the frequent-flyer miles. So he racks up some serious miles and gets the private lounge stuff and typically gets upgraded to first class, etc. It's not such a bad deal really.

I suspect that a lot of the people who are chipping in the cash and then have one guy pay for the whole thing on their card are similar.

Ummm, wtf? If he can't afford it then he can either drink at home. Or he can have 5 beers instead and tip even a nominal amount (instead of not a dime).

I've gone drinking before when I and my friends were all really super broke. wasn't the most financially responsible thing for us to be doing. We would never short a bartender a freaking tip even in that situation. And that's a bit more drastic of a situation than a guy who shows up REGULARLY and never ever ever tips a dime.

that was just an example what could be, maybe he was born and educated in another culture were tipping is not accepted?

maybe the first time he went there he had not enough money with him so he couldnt tip, and since then he gets treated like an dirty animal and therefore he stopped tipping at all.
who knows...

I work at a restaurant and regularly have tables with 200 - 1500 $ bill and I guess 30per cent of the time never leave a tip, even though the service is excellent (it is ). Seems like tipping etiquettes are different in the US than in Europe.

I won't lie, sometimes when we're out to eat I'll ask "Hey anybody wanna buy some Magic cards?" That turns it into a "business lunch" which gives you tax breaks. I'll stop when the gov't stops handing out money hand over fist to campaign contributors.

/politard

They evidently do since ATAT already mentioned that he has a rep for doing that at every other bar around town as well.

Stop making excuses for him. If he has some excuse or reason for going about it the way he does then bully for him. Still doesn't stop the fact that he doesn't ever tip a freaking dime. If he doesn't understand that he's supposed to do that and that everyone else (normal people anyway) does that's nobody else's fault really.

Like it or not, the US is for the most part a tip based service industry. The implied social contract is that if you do tip well, you will get good service. If you do not, you will get bad service.

Acting like somebody's not doing their job by giving lousy service to a bad tipping customer is just some head-in-the-sand assed bull****. While you are not legally bound to tip, it is 100% expected and if you don't, you will likely suffer some consequence and only idiots and eurotards will think that's wrong.

well u gotta first stop ignoring my arguments...

there are cultures where tipping is a big insult, so u expect him to forget everything he was taught ?
yea he is in a new country so he should adapt, but that doesnt work so fast, i see our baller pros in thailand not respecting their traditions very well for example.

or he might even not know that tips are even possible or expected

there are way way way too many excuses for him, so u as waiter (or anyone else) just let it slide and serve him normally

comon u workers in the service industry are such dicks, crying over 3-5 bucks once a week but expecting everyone else to not care about that amount, u see the paradoxon ?

This had been posted previously, what did the rest of the cops do after that?

roomate's friend in college asked us out for a couple beers across the street. its a typical college bar, 1 bartender covering a fairly large area. she had one of those small ice bucket things in front of the beer taps that she would throw her tips in. roomate's friend apparently only has $6 on him, enough for exactly 3 beers, so he'd take a dollar out of her bucket when she wasnt looking to re-tip it cause he didnt want to look like a cheapskate. this was the first time i met him, and it certainly wasnt an isolated incident. one time coming back from class i caught him switching out his 1/4 bag of tostitos for our unopened bag in our pantry (he lived across the hall, roomate was showering while he was playing on our playstation)

also, something i'd like a ruling on. a friend of mine works as a bartender at a local restaurant. when he's not on his shift, he usually asks 3 or 4 of us if we want to go down and drink @ the bar with him. the other bartenders usually knock off 2 or 3 of our drinks, so instead of our bill being ~$30 each, its usually 15-20. my friend insisted that we should still be paying most (if not all) of the $ we saved, plus the tip, because the bartender was doing us a favor and deserved a little kickback. this seemed completely stupid to me, i was not buying my drinks from the bartender, i was buying it from the restuarant. i didnt ask to buy my drinks from the black market. does bartender deserve anything more than a generous tip on the bill?

How do you guys tip on holidays?

Today I tipped ~18% for lunch at Olive Garden then kinda felt bad about it after I left and thought maybe I should have left more like 25% since it's 4th of July.

Then I tipped ~24% for a haircut later this afternoon. I tend to tip slightly more for haircuts than for lunches. It seems like more of an intimate activity and I feel sorry for them having to trim my nasty neck hair.

if the bill should have been 30 dollars, you'd be paying 30 + x. so what's the big deal with paying 30?

If I weren't lazy- I would respond to zer0's 2nd paragraph with his own avatar.

For free stuff, I tip on what the total would have been if I was charged for everything.

no- i dont have a problem tipping on the full amount, its paying the full amount (or close to it) + tip, so the bartender gets the money instead of the bar

Guys, can we have less tipping talk and more stories about buying rotten fruit, eating the good parts and then returning the rest to the store? Thx

I read the whole thread, and for me this is the winner. At least as far as purely being cheap is concerned.

As pointed out by others there are a whole lot of other worse things in this thread which are basically lying and/or stealing. I'm not counting those. There is nothing really dishonest about what this guy is doing, it's just the essence of being cheap.

I consider myself a pretty nitty, frugal person, but I can't even come close to competing with most of the stuff in this thread.

zer0 - Larger tip than normal is standard in that spot. Trying to cover what the exact amount of the drinks would have been otherwise is stupid and excessive.

Here's a different situation that I have kind of been curious about: Lets say it's a pretty small place and the owner is the one serving you (either meal or drinks). Either they regularly do this especially when they're busy...or they are just filling in for someone. Feels weird to tip somebody who is making the entire profit on the meal or drinks I just had in the first place.

It's not somebody who is making the standard $2.35/hr waitress/bartending salary (or whatever it is) just to be there and it's not a person who is relying on the tips as a majority of their income. They are already making the profits on the business in the first place. Too stingy to think that a smaller tip in that spot is potentially acceptable?I kind of think it is but am not sure.

LOL

Now who's stingy? You shouldn't have to tip just to get what you are already paying for.

If the bill was $15-20, and you're saying paying a total of $30 (undiscounted price without tip) is fine, but paying $30 + standard tip is weird, then I agree.

But I'm not sure that's what you're saying.

Perhaps you could just clear this up by saying what you thought is the correct amount. Let's get rid of the range and say that the undiscounted price of the drinks was $30 and he discounted it for you to $20. What would you give him assuming no one was pressuring you to do anything in particular?

Let's end the tipping conversation in this thread with the following thought.

If you're overly concerned with the treatment of people who do not tip, you likely have some first person stories you can add to this thread.

I turn my boxers inside out so i dont have to use too much washing powder.....

Nah seriously, now.....

I once got invited to a house party at a sort of friends house, we walked through the door, his missus said, you lot who've just come can you drink the half empty cans on the side what people have left so we dont use all the beer??!!!

Response...... "Wat? GTFO" + we actually GTFO

I just tip the same in this spot as I would have tipped a waitress.

The reason (at least for me) is because I'm tipping for the service. My reason for tipping is not because the recipient is underpaid. How well off the recipient is has nothing to do with it for me.