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12-30-2012 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tylertwo
I know they say that a picture is worth a thousand words, but you must be speaking in Ebonics. I don't get it...
lean
lien
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12-30-2012 , 05:24 PM
Really liking how the op thinks hanging onto the car until end of January makes it all okay. And that it is also okay to keep all the other stuff in the car that he stole.

I mean, at least he has his logic for getting the car. Dmv flunkie on the phone who didn't know what he was saying told him too...fees are going up everyday and be doesn't want collections on his ass for something that is still in his name. Blah blah blah. But keeping the other items in the car and continuing to make up his own logic like "I'm waiting until end of January therefore it is okay because I decided that is how the law should work" is crazier.

Misunderstanding at first is one thing. Ignoring the advice too. But after being told repeatedly that you don't get to make up the rules he proceeds to do that even more.

"Well, he should have not done that to the car still in my name because of my own ineptitude....therefore I'm keeping his other stuff"

Wow. What? You now KNOW you don't get to make up the law but are continuing to do it.

Also, would be amazing if the fake gun and mask were used in a crime somewhere and op ends up on the hook for it.
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12-30-2012 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob

Also, would be amazing if the fake gun and mask were used in a crime somewhere and op ends up on the hook for it.
Perhaps the OP used the mask and gun in a robbery, and created this thread in an attempt to deflect the heat from himself.
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12-30-2012 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Subpar=(
lean
lien
Ha Ha! Thank you! I think I'm going into late onset senility.
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12-30-2012 , 05:47 PM
IANAL, but I'd bet that driving a car without the owner's permission is GTA unless in a jurisdiction where joyriding laws are still on the books--if there are any of those left. In FL, I'd be prepared to bet more than I would in many other jurisdictions.
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12-30-2012 , 06:33 PM
Parking in front of the place legally wouldn't it just get towed again at some point? Also, he doesn't get to sell it again and recoup his losses.

But no, I don't think it would illegal. Or if it is, not by much. Send a note to him saying, "they told me it was in the lot so I paid for it so I would no longer be billed and left it out front. You can recover it at X."


In other news, I have to go the dmv soon to renew my registration. May ask this hypothetical about my "friend" while I'm there just for kicks. I'm not in the same state but I'm guessing the issue of whether it is theft would likely be pretty consistent most places.
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12-30-2012 , 06:39 PM
I also am not entirely opposed to saying "screw this. I'm cutting through the tape and taking care of it the easy way."

But if I went that route it would be because I would think I could get away with it but I would admit that it definitely is theft.

"Yup. I stole the car. I doubt it comes back to burn me though. I have the ready made excuse that the dmv told me it was still mine and I was worried about my credit, etc. Pretty likely a judge wouldn't throw the book at me and would consider it some possession dispute based on lack of documention.. I'm going about it backwards but I don't want the hassle of doing all that other stuff. So I stole it, offered it to him for my trouble in getting it for him, HR will decline and I will recoup my losses. I will also offer back everything else in the car including the stuff in the trunk, the new floormats, etc."

Again, that is not my recommended course. Just that I am not entirely opposed to it...just freaking admit that you stole it...since you did. Then carry on.
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12-30-2012 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by turbosloth
jimmy law-lovers (diablo, nicholas, microbob and friends) ,

okay, lets say you are ballin' sloth and just don't want to deal with any headaches and this situation arises.

you go into the impound lot, tired of the car racking up more bills and decide to just say fk it and pay it. you then park the car legally in front of the impound lot cause they say get it out of our garage. you continue to not remain in contact with the kid after this action and don't give a fk since car is parked legally and is safe and is out of your hair. you contact the dmv and make sure everything is sorted out title wise and you are no longer legally in possession.

1- is this "grand theft auto"? what do you think of this action?

2- if you park the car in a safe free longterm garage close to the impound lot or close to the spot was towed.... is this "grand theft auto"

3- if you return it to the spot it was towed from to be towed again, is this "grand theft auto"?

thanks!
Probably not - theft requires that you have the intent to deprive the owner of their property for some amount of time. Here you have no such intent (and in fact your action is not actually depriving them of their property). That said, the fact you don't tell them where the auto is located could be seen as intent to deprive (for example if I take your property and hide it, that would still be theft).

I would say number three and one would clearly not be theft, but two is closer since you moved the car to a spot where the buyer would have essentially no chance of finding it. It would also depend on what you do when they contact you - if you tell them where the car is, you're fine, if you refuse it could be theft.
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12-30-2012 , 07:49 PM
sloth,

If you are ballin' sloth, you just ignore **** related to a car you don't own. Maybe have your assistant call the tow place and let them know they sent you **** regarding a car you no longer own and your attorneys info in case they have any further questions.
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12-30-2012 , 07:53 PM
Sloth,

As long as you did'nt inform the legal owner of the vehicle what you were doing with it I'm pretty sure it's GTA.
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12-30-2012 , 08:12 PM
I'm pretty sure "stealing" an $800 car isn't "grand theft" anything.
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12-30-2012 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Wakko
I'm pretty sure "stealing" an $800 car isn't "grand theft" anything.
They would most likely go by the KBB value of the car. Which I'd bet is more than 1K. In any case...

Florida

"In general, any property taken that carries a value of more than $300 can be considered grand theft in certain circumstances..."[4]
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12-30-2012 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wakko
I'm pretty sure "stealing" an $800 car isn't "grand theft" anything.
It certainly isn't going to get you any cigarettes in the jail.
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12-30-2012 , 11:20 PM
ITT blocking someone on Facebook after saying you will go get your property gives someone the legal right to steal from you
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12-31-2012 , 02:25 AM
I'm not a lawyer, so why do my answers matter?

I'd say #1 isn't GTA as you don't have intent to deprive them of their property, but IANAL

Like I said, I wouldn't commit GTA without consulting a lawyer...OP chose to do so without legal advice and he may pay the price
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12-31-2012 , 02:40 AM
Turbo,

I have no idea what constitutes theft or grand theft or whatever else. I didn't answer your scenarios because they were completely ****ing ******ed. I can't think of much anything stupider than paying the fees then setting things up to have the exact same situation repeat itself.
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12-31-2012 , 02:55 AM
Turbo,

My apologies, I didn't read all the way to the end of the scenario. If you're gonna take care of the title anyway, seems like it's way smarter to just tell the yard to check with DMV because it's not your car. As for the specifics of what legally constitutes theft or doesn't, I'm not a lawyer or cop so you should ask one of them to answer that.
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12-31-2012 , 03:05 AM
ts,

Lol what a ******ed example. Of course do whatever you want with those stupid ****head's **** after they steal from you.

But in this case, OP is ****ing with someone else's property just because they aren't taking care of their ****. None of it is any business of his except that he needs to get his own **** taken care of.
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12-31-2012 , 03:18 AM
Turbo,

He took the car to sell it, what's so ****ing hard to understand about that? No one would have had a problem if he drove the car over to new owner's place and dropped it off for him.
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12-31-2012 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by turbosloth
not sure why there is so much hate on the OP.
Well, he's a racist, so there's that.
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12-31-2012 , 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by turbosloth
pretty telling that not a single one of you jimmy-law-loving weirdos have really addressed my points
Because these are stupid points that don't show that OP didn't steal a car. You can create a different scenario where it is not stealing, but that would be a different situation.

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Originally Posted by turbosloth
here is the similar light i see this situation:

- i am babysitting my nieces and nephews, watching them play basketball outside
- some 16 year old punk and his friend run up and steal their two bicycles
- in pursuit one of them drops his cell phone or a watch or w/e of value

guess what? im not turning the watch over to the police as lost and found! im going to pawn it and buy two new bikes!

and will i feel like a criminal for this? should i go to jail for theft? am i wrong morally?

i dont think so buddy. justice in the universe
You don't have to feel bad, but that's still stealing and I would still hold you morally accountable for it. Not sure why you think it's ok to steal from someone just because they stole from you. You have their phone, the cops should be able to catch them and deal with the situation.
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12-31-2012 , 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by turbosloth
did i commit fraud? should i be arrested and charged with a crime? or was i just taking actions that would bring justice to the world and i am morally clear?
So you got a free laptop that they didn't intend to give you, and you knew about it and lied to make it happen? Definite theft and should definitely be prosecuted.

Still irrelevant to the OP so who cares...
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12-31-2012 , 04:00 AM
Do you think there's no good reason for that to be a store policy?
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12-31-2012 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by turbosloth
can you not read? i bought one laptop and i got one laptop

also


'you have missed the point sir'
I'm at work so I was reading quickly. Since you got one and paid for one, it's not so bad, but still a fraud I would never commit.

As for the second, no I did not miss the point. You just don't agree with me.
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12-31-2012 , 08:10 AM
TS,

When did this become the "Make up completely different hypotheticals" thread?
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