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Old 09-07-2017, 09:56 PM   #126
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I think there are approximately 20 million feral cats in Australia which they estimate eat 5 creatures per night. Also Australia doesn't have as many predators to help keep the population down. I have zero issues with feral cats being shot and I love cats, I think they are pretty awesome animals. I would prefer people spay their cats though so the population doesn't increase.

I've found a box of kittens dumped on the side of the road when I was on my way to work and ended up keeping them for a few weeks until spaces became available at the shelter my friend worked at. People will happily take kittens and puppies and then dump them later as adults and replace them with another kitten. It seriously makes my blood boil. Old dogs and cats are really special, they have substance and have been loyal for so long. I don't know what is wrong with people
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Old 09-07-2017, 09:59 PM   #127
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I think there are approximately 20 million feral cats in Australia which they estimate eat 5 creatures per night.
How big are these cats? Of maybe the "creatures" are really small?
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:14 PM   #128
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How big are these cats? Of maybe the "creatures" are really small?
They vary in size but my brother has seen some in the desert which are 2-3 times larger than domestic cats. They did an autopsy on one and it had 50 whole mammals or reptiles inside it.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/...t-shot/5803918

http://www.australiangeographic.com....in-arnhem-land
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:25 PM   #129
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how many kittens have you drowned?
I already answered this - zero. But I see the reality of unhindered procreation without pink glasses.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:28 PM   #130
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How big are these cats? Of maybe the "creatures" are really small?
First they came for the creatures, and I did not speak out -
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:29 PM   #131
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I think there are approximately 20 million feral cats in Australia which they estimate eat 5 creatures per night. Also Australia doesn't have as many predators to help keep the population down. I have zero issues with feral cats being shot and I love cats, I think they are pretty awesome animals. I would prefer people spay their cats though so the population doesn't increase.

I've found a box of kittens dumped on the side of the road when I was on my way to work and ended up keeping them for a few weeks until spaces became available at the shelter my friend worked at. People will happily take kittens and puppies and then dump them later as adults and replace them with another kitten. It seriously makes my blood boil. Old dogs and cats are really special, they have substance and have been loyal for so long. I don't know what is wrong with people
Is this like a weird Australian thing? An urban legend?

Do you actually have first hand knowledge of someone having a kitten keeping a few years and then getting rid of it as a healthy adult cat (with no weird behavioral probs like pissing all over the place), only to immediately get another kitten.

I'm sure it has happened, but it's surprising that it is as common as you make it sound.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:30 PM   #132
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Bird people are always crying about all the pretty little birdies that cats are eating. Jonathan Franzen's novel Freedom makes a big point of this, for instance. I'm proud to support TeamCat and their program of carnage and mayhem.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:32 PM   #133
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Melk,

Every cat has weird behavioral probs.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:34 PM   #134
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lapka - Do you think dogs and cats that are "in the mood" develop some sort of superpower that allows them to act against the wishes of their owners? Because that's the only thing that makes posts like this make sense.
May be that is the difference between cats and dogs. Whenever I had cats they never acted according to my wishes. And it wouldn't go well to try to force them.
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Every cat has weird behavioral probs.
Perhaps, but anyone who thinks that is not getting the first kitten, let alone a replacement.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:37 PM   #136
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How big are these cats? Of maybe the "creatures" are really small?
Here is a photo of the cat Rexxx mentioned, along with the contents of its stomach. lol "autopsy" they gutted it with a hunting knife.

Another report says the contents are from a dozen cats total.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:42 PM   #137
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Is this like a weird Australian thing? An urban legend?

Do you actually have first hand knowledge of someone having a kitten keeping a few years and then getting rid of it as a healthy adult cat (with no weird behavioral probs like pissing all over the place), only to immediately get another kitten.

I'm sure it has happened, but it's surprising that it is as common as you make it sound.
Possibly I made it sound like a common occurrence when hopefully it isn't but it definitely happens. Imo if it happens once that is way too often. People can just treat their pets like an inconvenience, just go to a shelter here during the holiday periods where their numbers go up dramatically. I don't know anyone personally who has done this but I have had friends I trust tell me it happens who volunteer at shelters and the people who do it don't even feel guilt about it as they are happy to openly talk about it! Anyway if you get an animal with a behavioural problem you should be doing everything you can to fix the problem not just abandoning it.

Another scenario that happens is they get a puppy and it doesn't get along with the older dog so they get rid of the older dog. Uurgh some people suck so badly.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:43 PM   #138
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May be that is the difference between cats and dogs. Whenever I had cats they never acted according to my wishes. And it wouldn't go well to try to force them.
Our cats never go outside, no matter how much they want to. And as they get older they show no interest in going out. Because they have been trained.

BTW - I have no issue with having pets fixed. I just think it's absurd to make this statement - "either clip their balls or on the regular kill puppies/kitties".
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:47 PM   #139
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Here is a photo of the cat Rexxx mentioned, along with the contents of its stomach. lol "autopsy" they gutted it with a hunting knife.


Another report says the contents are from a dozen cats total.
Hey gutting it with a hunting knife is considered an autopsy here

Apologies if I was factually incorrect. I thought the abc would be fairly reputable.

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Old 09-07-2017, 10:52 PM   #140
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If a cat is ever fortunate enough to be living off my largess then he can learn to deal with not having testicles.
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Our cats never go outside, no matter how much they want to. And as they get older they show no interest in going out. Because they have been trained.
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It is hard for me to believe you in this.

But if you really did this.
O_O. Complete awe and admiration. How did you do that? Some tips on how to prevent a male cat from marking everything in the house?
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:55 PM   #142
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I didn't want to laugh at Meowschwitz, but I did.
It was actually a line from "Archer" a couple of years back.
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:55 PM   #143
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Lapka,
do you guys train your kittens and puppies to voluntarily jump into the well when they reach adulthood?
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Old 09-07-2017, 10:56 PM   #144
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The thing is most people aren't dog/cat whisperers like Dids here and you end up with male cats marking 'their territory' all over your driveway and making it a disgusting smelly mess.
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Old 09-07-2017, 11:00 PM   #145
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Sounds to me like Rexxy has personal issues with cats.
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Old 09-07-2017, 11:02 PM   #146
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It is hard for me to believe you in this.

But if you really did this.
O_O. Complete awe and admiration. How did you do that? Some tips on how to prevent a male cat from marking everything in the house?
We acquired my man Clark almost two years ago as an avid outdoorsman. But living in an apartment we decided he would be an indoor cat. He was nearly unbearable at night for the first month. He no longer actively tries to get out, but he is still really vocal when he wants to eat. He'll come shout in my sleeping face until I get up and feed him. Other than that he is the coolest cat I've ever been associated with.



Edit: he is and has been very much not intact.
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Old 09-07-2017, 11:11 PM   #147
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I had a cat. I didn't set out to get her, she more just decided I was her human. She was seriously awesome, independent, clever, feisty yet charming. All my friends thought she was one of the coolest cats they had ever known. I loved her and nursed her back when she was very sick. I was gutted when I eventually had to have her put down, she was a family member. I'm not sure though if I will ever get another cat as I feel like some are really independent types and crave going outside and I know that's not great for the environment. I have been sorely tempted to get a cat but I just make do with fixes from friends and neighbours cats.
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Old 09-07-2017, 11:13 PM   #148
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do you guys train your kittens and puppies to voluntarily jump into the well when they reach adulthood?
In Kazakhstan majority of stray kittens die on its own from hunger and illnesses. With male house cats you don't have the problem of too many kittens. And with female house cats kittens are most of the time drown. You keep may be one every second time. That is also about the rate of survival into adulthood for stray kittens.

Clearly grown-ups try to spare the children the situation of seeing or participating in the drowning.
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Old 09-07-2017, 11:16 PM   #149
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In Kazakhstan majority of stray kittens die on its own from hunger and illnesses. With male house cats you don't have the problem of too many kittens. And with female house cats kittens are most of the time drown. You keep may be one every second time. That is also about the rate of survival into adulthood for stray kittens.

Clearly grown-ups try to spare the children the situation of seeing or participating in the drowning.
seems horribly inefficient.
and uneccessarily cruel.

why dont you Kazakhstanians just drown the prego mother cat?
would teach her to get pregnant again!
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We acquired my man Clark almost two years ago as an avid outdoorsman. But living in an apartment we decided he would be an indoor cat. He was nearly unbearable at night for the first month. He no longer actively tries to get out, but he is still really vocal when he wants to eat. He'll come shout in my sleeping face until I get up and feed him. Other than that he is the coolest cat I've ever been associated with.



Edit: he is and has been very much not intact.
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For me totally believable and absolutely cool live path of Clark.

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