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Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed? Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed?
View Poll Results: Should pitbulls be allowed to breed
Yes
391 46.94%
No
289 34.69%
Yes but only if you have to have a special license to own one
153 18.37%

11-08-2015 , 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by runout_mick
Let's say, for the sake of the argument, that all dogs are equally likely to go berzerk. When dogs go into attack mode, some can do much more damage than others. If a lab loses it, maybe it does x damage. My yorkie maybe 0.2x damage. Pitbull? Say 3x damage. Pitbulls, per unit, are a much greater risk.

What is the added reward of owning a pitbull vs a lab that justifies that risk? I mean if you were to be fair minded and logical. Please quantify for me what a pitbull provides you with that a shepherd can't.
3x damage obviously.
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11-08-2015 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BatsShadow
I have two pitbulls and too many cats living in this house. I only read the last page of the thread, but I'm surprised. I thought poker players tended to be fair minded logical people.

Edit: read first page, and poll results: Nevermind, carry on.
Woah, your anecdote is sure a good point.
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11-08-2015 , 03:25 PM
I never considered someone owning more than one pitbull and a bunch of cats. Definitely have to rethink my position.
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11-08-2015 , 03:28 PM
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11-08-2015 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tylertwo
Now they're strangling, too?
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11-08-2015 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ctyri
Now they're strangling, too?
This pic was on my Facebook feed. My friends are all animal rightists, so they are very mad about PETA coming out against pits. I take no opinion on them, pro or con. (cue the haters, lol.)
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11-08-2015 , 04:47 PM
Imagining the people trying to set that photo up made me laugh. The pillow under the head, lovely.
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11-08-2015 , 06:04 PM
This thread is such bull****, it would have such an insignificant influence on improving or preserving the quality of life for children across the world if you really gave a **** about anybody it would be the last thing on your mind
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11-08-2015 , 06:28 PM
A 9-year-old girl died Sunday afternoon after a pit bull attacked her earlier in the backyard of an Elmont home, Nassau police said.

A responding Nassau police officer shot and killed the dog after it let go of the girl and charged the cop, authorities said.

The girl, whose identity was not released, was pronounced dead at 1:42 p.m. at Franklin General Hospital in Valley Stream, Nassau police said.

Nassau police Det. Michael Bitsko said the pit bull belonged to a person living in an upstairs apartment of the home.

The owner of the pit bull, Carlyle Arnold, 29, of Elmont, was arrested at the scene on an unrelated charge of violation of an order of protection, police said.


His father, Carlyle Arnold Sr. arrived later and said he knew nothing of the attack.

"I don't know what to say, what to do," he said.

"I'm sorry for what happened to the little girl," he added.

"This is crazy, I'm getting off of work and now I'm like in a horror scene," he said.

The girl's death came less than four hours after the pit bull attacked her as she played with two friends in the backyard.


The scene of an apparent dog attack in Elmont. Photo Credit: Twitter / Ted Phillips
Nassau police and residents of the neighborhood described a harrowing scene as attempts to free the girl from the clenched jaws of the medium-sized dog repeatedly failed and her two friends ran into the front of the residence screaming for help.


Anthony Tyron Jett, 53, said he lived at the house with the owner of the pit bull. Jett described the dog as "gentle."

Upon learning of the girl's death, Jett said, "Oh my God, oh my God" and held his head in his hands.

But earlier, Jett had said the attack was "kind of shocking," and he described the animal as "such a friendly dog. You could put your hand in his mouth. He knows not to bite you."

Bitsko said before the dog attacked the girl, she had been playing with a friend who lives in the downstairs residence and another child from the neighborhood. She had been dropped off at the house at about 10:30 a.m.

She and the other girls, ages 8 and 9, were playing in the backyard when the dog emerged and began biting her, Bitsko said.

The mother of her friend living on the bottom floor tried unsuccessfully to get the dog to let the child go.

Nassau officers responding to a 911 call arrived and surrounded the house, with two heading toward the backyard and the third entering the residence, Bitsko said, adding that when the officer inside got to the back door and started heading into the backyard, the pit bull finally let go of the girl and trained its sights on her.

As the dog charged the officer, she fired multiple shots, killing the animal, Bitsko said. It was not known why the dog attacked, he said.

"I'm not going to get into the details of what took place, but it was a violent attack," Bitsko said.

A neighbor who lives next door and declined to give her name, said two girls ran out into the street screaming for help as the attack continued.

"I just saw them run on the sidewalk. . . . Everybody on the block tried to help, it was really horrible," the woman told reporters. "When the ambulance came, they put her on the stretcher and put a mask over her face. . . . It's a horrible tragedy. . . . I hope she pulls through."

Jett said the dog was about 2 years old with a mixed brown and tan coat.

"He was a beast. But he was gentle," Jett said. "He was strong. He was a pit bull. Like any animal comes into the yard, a bird or squirrel or whatever, he would chase it, but he was very people friendly. He wasn't the type of dog that was vicious. . . . He was kind of a lovely dog."
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11-08-2015 , 06:29 PM
It seems like a pitbull is mauling a kid literally every single day lately

i wish i could personally exterminate every one of them
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11-08-2015 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
It seems like a pitbull is mauling a kid literally every single day lately

i wish i could personally exterminate every one of them
Way more than one per day. Dogs send 800k people to the ER every year, 70% are kids.
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11-08-2015 , 07:39 PM
pitbull owners are the epitome of human ignorance. breed should be extinguished from the face of the earth.
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11-08-2015 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chief pot
This thread is such bull****, it would have such an insignificant influence on improving or preserving the quality of life for children across the world if you really gave a **** about anybody it would be the last thing on your mind
This post is such bull****. If you really gave a **** about anybody it would be the last thing on your mind. Now go outside and save the children, you apathetic ****er.
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11-08-2015 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
A 9-year-old girl died Sunday afternoon after a pit bull attacked her earlier in the backyard of an Elmont home, Nassau police said.

A responding Nassau police officer shot and killed the dog after it let go of the girl and charged the cop, authorities said.

The girl, whose identity was not released, was pronounced dead at 1:42 p.m. at Franklin General Hospital in Valley Stream, Nassau police said.

Nassau police Det. Michael Bitsko said the pit bull belonged to a person living in an upstairs apartment of the home.

The owner of the pit bull, Carlyle Arnold, 29, of Elmont, was arrested at the scene on an unrelated charge of violation of an order of protection, police said.


His father, Carlyle Arnold Sr. arrived later and said he knew nothing of the attack.

"I don't know what to say, what to do," he said.

"I'm sorry for what happened to the little girl," he added.

"This is crazy, I'm getting off of work and now I'm like in a horror scene," he said.

The girl's death came less than four hours after the pit bull attacked her as she played with two friends in the backyard.


The scene of an apparent dog attack in Elmont. Photo Credit: Twitter / Ted Phillips
Nassau police and residents of the neighborhood described a harrowing scene as attempts to free the girl from the clenched jaws of the medium-sized dog repeatedly failed and her two friends ran into the front of the residence screaming for help.


Anthony Tyron Jett, 53, said he lived at the house with the owner of the pit bull. Jett described the dog as "gentle."

Upon learning of the girl's death, Jett said, "Oh my God, oh my God" and held his head in his hands.

But earlier, Jett had said the attack was "kind of shocking," and he described the animal as "such a friendly dog. You could put your hand in his mouth. He knows not to bite you."

Bitsko said before the dog attacked the girl, she had been playing with a friend who lives in the downstairs residence and another child from the neighborhood. She had been dropped off at the house at about 10:30 a.m.

She and the other girls, ages 8 and 9, were playing in the backyard when the dog emerged and began biting her, Bitsko said.

The mother of her friend living on the bottom floor tried unsuccessfully to get the dog to let the child go.

Nassau officers responding to a 911 call arrived and surrounded the house, with two heading toward the backyard and the third entering the residence, Bitsko said, adding that when the officer inside got to the back door and started heading into the backyard, the pit bull finally let go of the girl and trained its sights on her.

As the dog charged the officer, she fired multiple shots, killing the animal, Bitsko said. It was not known why the dog attacked, he said.

"I'm not going to get into the details of what took place, but it was a violent attack," Bitsko said.

A neighbor who lives next door and declined to give her name, said two girls ran out into the street screaming for help as the attack continued.

"I just saw them run on the sidewalk. . . . Everybody on the block tried to help, it was really horrible," the woman told reporters. "When the ambulance came, they put her on the stretcher and put a mask over her face. . . . It's a horrible tragedy. . . . I hope she pulls through."

Jett said the dog was about 2 years old with a mixed brown and tan coat.

"He was a beast. But he was gentle," Jett said. "He was strong. He was a pit bull. Like any animal comes into the yard, a bird or squirrel or whatever, he would chase it, but he was very people friendly. He wasn't the type of dog that was vicious. . . . He was kind of a lovely dog."

Came here to post this story since it was close to home for me.

Truly sickening and pit bull owners should honestly be ashamed.
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11-08-2015 , 07:46 PM
Every pitbull is such a friendly gentle dog until it mauls a kid to death.
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11-09-2015 , 12:10 AM
I'm getting the sense that pitbulls have some sort of weird jealously trigger. I assume its tied in to why they appear so loving.
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11-10-2015 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
A 9-year-old girl died Sunday afternoon after a pit bull attacked her earlier in the backyard of an Elmont home, Nassau police said.

A responding Nassau police officer shot and killed the dog after it let go of the girl and charged the cop, authorities said.

The girl, whose identity was not released, was pronounced dead at 1:42 p.m. at Franklin General Hospital in Valley Stream, Nassau police said.

Nassau police Det. Michael Bitsko said the pit bull belonged to a person living in an upstairs apartment of the home.

The owner of the pit bull, Carlyle Arnold, 29, of Elmont, was arrested at the scene on an unrelated charge of violation of an order of protection, police said.


His father, Carlyle Arnold Sr. arrived later and said he knew nothing of the attack.

"I don't know what to say, what to do," he said.

"I'm sorry for what happened to the little girl," he added.

"This is crazy, I'm getting off of work and now I'm like in a horror scene," he said.

The girl's death came less than four hours after the pit bull attacked her as she played with two friends in the backyard.


The scene of an apparent dog attack in Elmont. Photo Credit: Twitter / Ted Phillips
Nassau police and residents of the neighborhood described a harrowing scene as attempts to free the girl from the clenched jaws of the medium-sized dog repeatedly failed and her two friends ran into the front of the residence screaming for help.


Anthony Tyron Jett, 53, said he lived at the house with the owner of the pit bull. Jett described the dog as "gentle."

Upon learning of the girl's death, Jett said, "Oh my God, oh my God" and held his head in his hands.

But earlier, Jett had said the attack was "kind of shocking," and he described the animal as "such a friendly dog. You could put your hand in his mouth. He knows not to bite you."

Bitsko said before the dog attacked the girl, she had been playing with a friend who lives in the downstairs residence and another child from the neighborhood. She had been dropped off at the house at about 10:30 a.m.

She and the other girls, ages 8 and 9, were playing in the backyard when the dog emerged and began biting her, Bitsko said.

The mother of her friend living on the bottom floor tried unsuccessfully to get the dog to let the child go.

Nassau officers responding to a 911 call arrived and surrounded the house, with two heading toward the backyard and the third entering the residence, Bitsko said, adding that when the officer inside got to the back door and started heading into the backyard, the pit bull finally let go of the girl and trained its sights on her.

As the dog charged the officer, she fired multiple shots, killing the animal, Bitsko said. It was not known why the dog attacked, he said.

"I'm not going to get into the details of what took place, but it was a violent attack," Bitsko said.

A neighbor who lives next door and declined to give her name, said two girls ran out into the street screaming for help as the attack continued.

"I just saw them run on the sidewalk. . . . Everybody on the block tried to help, it was really horrible," the woman told reporters. "When the ambulance came, they put her on the stretcher and put a mask over her face. . . . It's a horrible tragedy. . . . I hope she pulls through."

Jett said the dog was about 2 years old with a mixed brown and tan coat.

"He was a beast. But he was gentle," Jett said. "He was strong. He was a pit bull. Like any animal comes into the yard, a bird or squirrel or whatever, he would chase it, but he was very people friendly. He wasn't the type of dog that was vicious. . . . He was kind of a lovely dog."
Multiple adults unable to get the dog to release the bite. The bite-hold-shake bite style is atypical for dogs and only found in trained attack dogs and pit bulls. They don't have to be taught, it's been bred in.
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11-10-2015 , 04:00 AM
I had a pit. It got out one day and attacked a cow. Bit the underside and wouldn't let go despite me having all four legs off the floor and smacking him hard. Finally reached inside his mouth to try and pull his teeth apart. He re adjusted and bit my thumb...

At which point he let's go immediately, and turns to me, tale wagging, to check that I'm okay and do the dog version of an apology.

He ended up being put down, which was super sad for 15 year old rugby, but no way on earth am I getting another one.

The attack phase is just nuts, and I would hate to think of trying to stop him if he attacked a child.
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11-10-2015 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tylertwo

You just know there was a kid playing with that toy when they started setting up the photo
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11-10-2015 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by andyhop
You just know there was a kid playing with that toy when they started setting up the photo
RIP
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11-10-2015 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Wooders0n
It seems like a pitbull is mauling a kid literally every single day lately

i wish i could personally exterminate every one of them
I agree but there are just so many. That's why I also donate to Planned Parenthood.
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11-10-2015 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Anzat
I agree but there are just so many. That's why I also donate to Planned Parenthood.
I laughed at this; I think I've been in OOT too long.
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11-13-2015 , 09:27 AM
Showed up in my FB feed

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11-17-2015 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by allinontheturn
Yeah that's why I think one attacking would be gruesome and almost certainly require a good deal of stitches but nearly 100% victory for healthy adult male. But add in just one more and I don't like my chances at all.
Rotweiller kills 57 year old male

Sort of on the edge of elderly, but still pretty surprising.
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11-17-2015 , 04:30 PM
That's a good sized guy too. It's crazy that dog was actually able to kill him.
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