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Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed?

View Poll Results: Should pitbulls be allowed to breed

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289 34.69%

Yes but only if you have to have a special license to own one

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10-23-2015 , 07:16 AM

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Yakmelk

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Pit probably wins way >50% vs the average human. Obv also depends on the pit.

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10-23-2015 , 07:49 AM

#1377

jmakin

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Humans were built for speed and endurance, not for killing with brute force. Pitbull wins.

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10-23-2015 , 08:03 AM

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I outweigh a pit bull like 3 to 1 and i even lift bro. I'm like a -1100 favorite.

From all my time at dogsbite.org it seems that pit bulls are big time bumhunters, picking on little kids and olds

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10-23-2015 , 09:47 AM

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TheGreenMagi

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If you're ever trying to break up a dog fight or are in a fight with a dog for whatever reason, I heard that the best thing to do is grab their back legs and hold them up. I've heard this is better than going for the collar.

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10-23-2015 , 09:57 AM

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Per a guy that trained pit bulls for fighting: grab em by the back legs and pull. If they still won't let go, stick your thumb up their anus

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10-23-2015 , 10:02 AM

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Fighting a pit bull barehanded probably is along the same lines as a knife fight -- you might "win," but you're probably going to get ****ed up pretty badly.

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10-23-2015 , 10:04 AM

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Obviously this hinges on whether the human is allowed to wear a shirt.

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10-23-2015 , 10:19 AM

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Yeah if possible. If one is coming at you it might be tough to get a hold of its back legs.

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10-23-2015 , 08:59 PM

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Guy Incognito

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Exactly. They have an incentive to get them out the door immediately.

They don't, though. From what I've observed, most of the people that attempt to adopt the pits get turned down; the adoption counselors grill them pretty thoroughly about their living situation, children, other dogs, HOA, etc. They also have fairly liberal return policies that make it easy to bring them back if they can't handle them. They have one pit that's been there almost a year.

Again, this is at the place I work at; I can't speak for how it works everywhere.

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10-23-2015 , 10:05 PM

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Adult male human is huge favorite in fight to death vs. Pitbull. Pitbulls are pretty small. Some of the larger pit mixes would be a different story perhaps.

I'm certain I'd be able to kill a pitbull simply by picking it up and smashing it's head on the ground with enough force.

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10-23-2015 , 10:40 PM

#1386

S.K

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Loool seriously ? Human never wins

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10-23-2015 , 10:48 PM

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We obviously need a "How Many 5 yr olds" thread for the derail but it would obviously be in poor taste.

My basic math estimate is that a healthy male >180 lbs could kill a pit bull 1v1 but would walk away with permanent damage.

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10-23-2015 , 10:49 PM

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I'm thinking even the larger varieties I'd be able to manage. But add a second of any size and it would be very difficult to actually kill either. You'd just have to try to kick to keep them at a distance until you were able to retreat.

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10-24-2015 , 01:43 AM

#1389

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I think that's about right, but the human has to be willing and mentally able to do whatever like rip off the dogs balls, bite the dog, w/e, all while having a hand and/or arm mangled.

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10-24-2015 , 01:46 AM

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And, as far as how many 5 year olds, how about how many kids? As in goats.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/...led-200-goats/

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10-24-2015 , 01:54 AM

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52 yo guy kills pit bull that attacked him bare handed.

http://legacy.decaturdaily.com/decat.../pitbull.shtml

60 yo kills a pit bull that attacked him

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-te...oe-1798758.php

guy chokes a lab/chow mix to death that was attacking his son

http://www.examiner.com/article/runn...rotect-his-son

Another guy kills his pit bull - strangling it - when it was attacking someone

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2235458/posts

It seems like choking the dog is the way to go.

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10-24-2015 , 04:02 AM

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I think that's about right, but the human has to be willing and mentally able to do whatever like rip off the dogs balls, bite the dog, w/e, all while having a hand and/or arm mangled.

Once a dog has latched onto whatever part of you he's managed to latch on to, I'm pretty sure every human is willing to do whatever he can to kill it.

Dogs basically have one weapon, their bite. Humans can choke, kick, bite, gouge, etc, etc. We have a huge weight advantage. The only way the human dies is if he bleeds out after the fight is over, by which point the dog is also dead.

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10-24-2015 , 06:38 AM

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I had this argument with a couple of friends years ago. I told them to let me know the next time a single pit bull kills a healthy adult male.

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10-24-2015 , 06:54 AM

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Good point heater. A google search for "pit bull kills man" brings back a bunch of results for multiple dogs killing a man, and one where a single dog killed a 62 year old man (no word about his prior health).

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10-24-2015 , 06:56 AM

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I believe I've read from some of the military guys on here that defense against dog attacks is part of their training. Curious what they learn there. Perhaps someone can elaborate.

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10-24-2015 , 06:57 AM

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Dogs and wolves are also pack hunters. Going for an effective solo kill isn't really part of their genetic programming.

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10-24-2015 , 07:27 AM

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I'm sure it happens occasionally, but I was talking to two twenty somethings who worked out regularly yet were both convinced that they wouldn't stand a chance against a pit bull. One of them was a former D1 football player. I'm not pro-pit by any means, but it's not like they're tigers or something.

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10-24-2015 , 09:38 AM

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Yeah, they just kill children and old people. Occasionally they take on a healthy adult male and kill them, but most of the time they just mutilate them while dying. No biggie.

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10-24-2015 , 09:51 AM

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Yeah, they just kill children and old people. Occasionally they take on a healthy adult male and kill them, but most of the time they just mutilate them while dying. No biggie.

I don't know why you're being sarcastic while stating facts. I'm all for banning pits, btw.

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10-24-2015 , 11:15 AM

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Tbh when I said average human that takes into account all the kids/olds/women of which Im sure they could kill quite a few. You also have to impose the must kill no matter what mindset onto the pit obv.

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