It doesnt have to be true and he is definility right to assume the worst, that s beeing cautious unlike the guy who joke about beeing a bad parent because he let his kid play with his friends pit.

In the first case nothing bad happend and he did his best to prevent the worst , in the 2nd case good luck living with yourself when your kid died because he has been killed or need some skin transplent because of your friend dog "who wouldnt hurt a fly"

I work in the hood a fair amount and once in a while a stray pit will just saunter by. I'm calm on the outside, but I'm as ready as I can be to jump on top of my truck or whatever is nearby.

nah every pit are loving and protecting and you should feel safer that he is watching for your security

Not only are pitbulls harmful when they are trained to harmful but also when they are neglected and not trained at all in obedience because, again, these dogs have the most destructive jaws out of any dog breeds and when you combine that with a dog's natural tendencies to attack other people and dogs it is not any surprise that you get an awful amount of carnage.

And what constitutes most destructive?

I love how all the posts and statistics that can't be refuted get ignored completely. Like the one pointing out that the statistics have photographs of the dogs.

Its interesting how the poll results are different from the posting ITT. I wonder if the 52%actually read this thread if they'd change their mind. The idiocy on display by pit fans here has definitely made me more strongly opposed to pit bulls, because most of them seem to irresponsible to take care of a pet rock.

Yeah. I've certainly never supported banning pits. I never really thought about forcing sterilization, but this thread has me thinking about it.

I think identifying breeds though is probably too big a problem.

At this point I think I'm just hoping for social pressure to sterilize and holding owners responsible for what their dogs do, even if the dogs weren't trained to fight or anything like that.

Because I don't want to live in a nanny state where thugs training a breed of dog to be vicious spoils it for other dog lovers.

I have seen first hand how a labrador can be trained to fight like how a pit-bull does by idiots. If thugs who trained their dogs to be vicious all instead owned labradors, labs would get a bad name by you people while people like myself would be arguing that labradors aren't the problem, it is their owners.

Like any other dog.

Are you guys offended when someone says a nova scottia duck tolling retriever is good at duck retrieving?

If no,

Why are you guys offended when someone says a pit bull is good at attacking and maiming other living beings?

youtube videos: the source of choice for nutjobs of all stripes.

I didn't source youtube to prove anything. I could have left the video out. It's my opinion.

mack,

Yes you could have.

There are links to trustworthy sources in this including to the ASPCA. Read it before you state things like "pitbulls are unpredictable" or "they have an especially strong bite".
http://www.alternet.org/civil-libert...ia-turned-them

ASPCA Guide to Handling Pit Bulls in the Shelter Environment directly says that pit bulls are unpredictable, don't give the traditional warning signs before attacking, are very destructive and have very powerful jaws. Keep in mind that this is a guide for ASPCA shelter workers. They have more incentive to be honest when writing something to keep their workers safe as opposed to press releases designed to solicit donations by telling pit-tards what they want to hear.

nah it s obviously written by a puddle on the payroll of the labrador mafia

Some pit bulls were selected and bred for their fighting ability. That means that they may be more likely than other breeds to fight with dogs. It doesn’t mean that they can’t be around other dogs or that they’re unpredictably aggressive. These dogs have long been popular family pets, noted for their gentleness, affection and loyalty. And even those pit bulls bred to fight other animals were not prone to aggressiveness toward people.
https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca...ment-pit-bulls
The ASPCA contradicts itself there then.

But it's not important, read the article and you'll understand why pitbulls are involved in a disproportionate amount of attacks.
It's what I'm arguing; stupid people.

The pitbull has an above average temperament according to the ATTS.

But stupid people own all types of dogs.

Dear OOT:

Thank you to those who have posted and linked to good information. I'm a dog lover, dogless at the moment but I'll certainly get another some day. I also may eventually be heading to vet school. Further, I like big dogs — I once had an 85 pound german shepherd, which I considered a medium sized dog, and later a 130 pound great dane. The latter was a big girl, but from my perspective not too big.

I was dimly aware of the pit bull issues, and would probably never have gotten a pit (despite there being such a need for people willing to adopt them), partly for the danger to others and partly because I would hate for people to see me the way they see other pit owners. I don't want a dog for machismo, and I don't want anyone, even a casual on the street, thinking I do.

But what I didn't know is two important things:

1. Just how bad even sweet, gentle pits can get in a flash. The pits I've known — a few — have always been adorable. And I have trusted my ability to read dogs. What I know now, and didn't know before, is that I probably don't know how to read a pit, at least not reliably enough to rely on in a potentially horrible situation, as when a child is around. Now I will be more cautious.

2. How much the problem extends to other molossus-derived breeds. Reading the stats on dog attack deaths in the US I was most surprised at how many rottweilers were on the list. Every rott I've known has been sweet as anything, too, and I could have seen myself getting one, hoping for the much of the good stuff I got from my GSD without the goddamn shedding issue (which is absurd — GSDs, as well as huskies, are borderline intolerable in that regard, and I say that as someone whose baby was a GSD). Now I'll know better.

(Cane corso, dogo brasileiro, and that ilk may be even more dangerous, but it's really difficult to tease that out of the stats because of the low numbers and likelihood of confusion about what in the US are exotic breeds.)

I don't know what the laws on this, if any, should be. Mandatory neutering at the very least, probably, but frankly that should apply to all breeds for a variety of reasons. And mandatory liability insurance for all pets seems a no-brainer; as noted upthread, insurance companies, which are in the business of assessing risk and so very likely to do it far better than anyone here, might fix the problem by pricing pits out of existence, or alternatively they might work out that the breed really isn't so bad, I suppose. But regardless the laws that pass or don't, at least now I know to be more careful, I know that the drive for anti-pit laws has a sound factual basis, and I know that a well-written law would include not just pits but other related dogs.

Again, thank you to the thoughtful contributors.

Pitbulls are the most abused dog
http://www.peta.org/blog/abused-dogs-earth/
, the biggest attraction for sociopaths who want a 'tough' dog, want to fight dogs etc.
I mean those people.

That's what the title of the article says, anyway.

Agreed, but a lot pit owners are ******ed and choose to ignore these rules.

Lol me: fila brasileiro, dogo argentino.

This is pretty concise.