Yet another reason to hate Michael Vick.

I think it's reasonable in part, but it's veers towards saying that all owners of a pitbull involved in an attack is abusive and neglectful. I want to be on board with this thought but I don't feel like that would be correct.

It's equivalent to the "my kids can do no wrong" parent, and that would be encouraging the very style of care you are attempting to work against.

Or we could not ignore the context provided by the previous paragraph, which indicates that Clifton is referring specifically to pit bulls:

Yeah, thats whats going on.

Yakky and Zangief sittin' in a tree...

I didn't get my dog fixed either but I had him circumcised twice.

6ix's pitbull discussion was kicked out of the Politics LC thread got it's very own thread!

Morons yelling at other morons about pit bulls

With an exciting mod note!

6ix's posts make no sense. They're just multi-quotes presented without context or argument, with some flippant remark thrown in.

Also, he appears to think that he's clever and intelligent which, um, i haven't seen much evidence for.

6ix is aggressively proud of not making any actual points in that thread. Some of the others are embarrassing themselves pretty badly as well.

As a breeder and owner of the American PitBull Terrier for over twenty-five years I'd just like to point out a couple things . 1. Most of , if not all the animals you see and say , that's a pitbull are in fact not . That 100 pound beast up the road , Bill's nice blue dog , ummm...both are not American PitBull Terriers . They are mixed bred dogs , not pure. There are no blue pit bulls and no extra large pit bulls!!! These backyard breeders are breeding into other breed for size and color , fake papers etc... 2. A real breeder never sells to a greenhorn or someone not well versed in owning a dog of fighting ansestory. I do own and show all my dogs and some are Champions in the show ring . Punish the deed not the breed .

Thanks for taking the time to clear this up.

First, I don’t agree with dog breeding. I don’t care about your hobby or obsession. I don’t care how it is maligned. It is irrelevant to me if the average pleb can’t tell the difference between a pit bull and a boxer the same way idc if a non-enthusiast calls a magazine a clip or a back-hoe a tractor. There are no points won for that ****.

Second, since I also dgaf if pits, actual or mis-identified, are banned, and you and others do, get to ****ing work fixing the problem. It’s your damned hobby, livelihood, preference, obsession, fetish—-whatever—-that is being threatened. Glad you love your pure bred, recorded show animal. How about some love for the ones that are being wasted in dog shelters, chained in yards, fought, inbred in mills etc?

Breeders are like the scourge of dogs, but thanks for the clarification breeder guy.

Punish the deed indeed.

Like, did you really wake up one morning and say "You know what? There just aren't enough dogs out there. I should go make more dogs?" Because I have some great news for you.

I guess that breeders should short-circuit the dog's path and sent them straight to the shelter to be put down, right?

I actually like LiamRamone's answer. He comes across as reasoned and acknowledges that the dogs are weapons.

On the other hand, it is punting the blame, and that's not okay. Why does it matter one iota if a dumb breeder is selling dangerous dogs? It should be up to the kennel club or whoever regulates breeders to enforce proper standards. Administer fines, force them to put all of their dogs down, or something. It's all fine and good to act like a professional org, but it's a sham if you look the other way when the majority of your profession is irresponsible and not following standards. By not enforcing, you are encouraging, and no matter how much you blame them, you are cheek to jowl with them, and therefore a part of the larger problem.

Wait, you think the answer to people getting killed by a dangerous product is to blame the people buying the product? The reason you go after the person making the product is because then THERE ARE NO DANGEROUS PRODUCTS BEING SOLD.

I want to buy a tiger from a responsible breeder.

odd that a pit bull breeder keeps calling them pitbulls rather than pit bulls

Banning the production and sale of a product because it is dangerous (by whatever definition) would stop the world in its tracks.

LiamRamone wrote this: "A real breeder never sells to a greenhorn or someone not well versed in owning a dog of fighting ansestory." He in no way shape or form is calling these animals inherently safe.

He is blaming the bad breeders, specifically calling them out for faking paperwork, not educating their buyers, and not vetting their buyers. He's not blaming the people buying the dogs.

It's an interesting perspective.

Why not make animals that we need more of, like bald eagles or snow leopards? You could be a bee breeder, I hear there is a critical bee shortage. Why in **** are you making more dogs when we already have way too many?

Why don't we stop having children untill every child in foster care and every baby in an orphanage is adopted?

Why don't colleges stop offering useless liberal arts degrees until every engineering and scientific problem is solved?

Why don't we ban divorces until everyone has had a shot at their first marriage?

Humans have free will, and if you really cared, you'd breed those things yourself instead of shouting at others to fix these things.

LOLdaveT
do you have bad takes on everything, or just OOT topics?

Pretty much everything. I have a reputation to uphold.

This absolutely should happen, and it's the only example actually comparable to stopping dog breeding . I did my part, hope you're next!

Dave was actually right that the Cranberry Tea post is an obvious terrible take.