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View Poll Results: Should pitbulls be allowed to breed
Yes 364 48.73%
No 243 32.53%
Yes but only if you have to have a special license to own one 140 18.74%
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:16 AM   #3101
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Re: Should pit bulls be allowed to breed?

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The sick ****s who fight dogs would use anything available, but pits are preferred. I don't think a ban would curb dog fighting.

This article lists other preferred breeds used for producing fighting lines.

https://www.dog-breeds-expert.com/Do...ng-Breeds.html
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Well just my opinion. Certain breeds make good fighters and pits top the list because of the damage they can do, but the fighting lines are bred for aggression, high pain tolerance and general game. That can be selected for in any breeding program of any breed. The **** heads who fight animals will use anything available if pits and other dangerous breeds are eliminated or not available so I wouldn't expect it to stop.
At the risk of sounding like a nit, you are moving the goalposts here.
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:32 AM   #3102
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At the risk of sounding like a nit, you are moving the goalposts here.
Yeah that is nitty but the change in term was not back pedaling, just a lack of precision. My fault. Use curb in the second post for consistency. A ban may disrupt dog fighting temporarily but people fight other dogs, birds, pigs, horses, fish, beetles, each other, prisoners probably any other animal they can force to do it. Pit bulls are not the key to stopping (or curbing) the behavior.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:47 AM   #3103
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I suspect that an additional ten or fifteen prosecutions and incarcerations a year will cost less than policing a ban on five million dogs. I don’t know that to be true; it is of course a guess. It seems to me there is also a benefit from pit owners enjoying their pits.
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Pit Bull Attack and Bite Statistics from 1982 - 2013:
Bodily Harm: 2,792 attacks
Child Victims: 1,114 attacks
Adult Victims: 1,047 attacks
Deaths: 263 deaths caused by Pit Bulls
Maimings: 1,677
Howard, I'm unsure of your politics & whether you're a fiscal conservative or a libertarian. But assuming reported attacks (which I'm sure is a gross understatement of the actual total pit attacks) tracks with prosecutions then your pitbull prescription would result in hundreds of prosecutions and incarcerations per year, not 10 to 15. Plus, we don't even know if it will be effective.

GGoreo gave stats earlier in this thread about Ontario's ban on pit & pit mixes and at least that seems effective.

I'd ask you to reconsider the carceral remedy for this on that basis that it will result in less not more government intervention in our lives because it would certainly result in more. It seems to me like your philosophy is not actually for less government but rather that people should be allowed to do whatever they want until they prove their irresponsibility?
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Old 01-14-2018, 11:39 AM   #3104
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Re: Should pit bulls be allowed to breed?

Fair points. But taking all the maimings and deaths, we’re looking at 1940 prosecutions in 31 years, or 62 per year. So while my numbers are off, they are not near the hundreds per year that you suggest. But to your broader point, this is a close one to me and my objections to a pit ban are slight.

I’m libertarian rather than conservative.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:44 PM   #3105
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Howard,

If I was you my main worry would be that after pit bulls were banned they would work through the breeds until they reached GSD!
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:35 PM   #3106
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Normally, Rexx, I agree with the slippery slope arguments. But here, the stats on pits are so much higher than other dogs that it doesn’t concern me much.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:01 PM   #3107
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They'll pry his GSDs from his cold, dead fingers.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:59 AM   #3108
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I think we`re safe.

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Old 01-15-2018, 09:53 AM   #3109
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That's hilarious.
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:17 PM   #3110
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Hilarious didn't last long.

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"I was very cautious about it because I don't just bring dogs into my home," Dodge said. "Took my son over there, the dog didn't attack him. It loved him, gave him a hug and licked him on the face. Brought him over here, my son came outside all day long and played with him, didn't do nothing to him."
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Sending out a tweet about how he misses his daughter is so f'ing ironic/moronic.
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:25 PM   #3111
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i dun dont bring dogs in mah house, cept pitbulls o course...

lmao

oh well, stupid father gets his stupid result.
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:33 PM   #3112
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you can make pretty much any animal mean if you want to i don't believe their is anything inherently evil about the breed but I have only ancedotdal evidence so obv could be totally wrong.

but regardless our puppy is the most wonderful little bundle of love ever and every single day I am so incredibly grateful I found her.

our entire province banned BANNED pitbulls because they are so cancerous and a danger to ALL people. They are evil as ****.
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:36 PM   #3113
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Sure. How about a rule that makes dog owners criminally liable for assaults their dogs commit, with no exceptions for a dog’s first bite? And a parallel rule establishing strict civil liability on the same premise.

Rather than establish an ex ante ban, set up an ex post remedy that establishes a significant deterrent to owners who raise dogs that end up being violent, and apply it to all dogs so as to avoid debates about the exact definition of a pit.

I’d probably support solutions like this in a fair number of similar circumstances, the idea being that keeping responsibility with the person in control of the situation will act to reduce the number of bad decisions made.

Why should I have to LOSE most of the fingers on my hand because a pitbull ripped the tendons off?

Oh yea they get jail time, great, man thats so good, oh wait i dont have any fingers...


Yeah, this is why a complete ban and total destruction of this ****ing evil breed needs to happen. More provinces and countries need to follow suit.
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:39 PM   #3114
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Re: Should pit bulls be allowed to breed?

Just saw a lady walking two big, muscly spawns of satan on one leash.

FU lady, you can't control that.
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Old 01-16-2018, 05:44 PM   #3115
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That guy left his pit alone with a child and an old person, the two things we've learned itt that you should never do with any dog.
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:08 PM   #3116
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But he brought his son over to see the dog before he got to see if it would attack him, and it DID NOT.
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Old 01-16-2018, 06:32 PM   #3117
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He should have rubbed the kid on an old person to get him scented up before he used him as bait in the bite test. Ldo.
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:36 PM   #3118
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Hilarious didn't last long.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...days-home.html

Sending out a tweet about how he misses his daughter is so f'ing ironic/moronic.
So damn sad.
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Old 01-17-2018, 09:24 AM   #3119
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Re: Should pit bulls be allowed to breed?

I've had this dog for 5 days now and he's just the sweetest most loving dog ever. He didn't even try to bite my son. Now lets see how the do with a small girl and an old lady.
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