The UK band pitbulls in 1991 Under the dangerous dogs act.
In recent years the numbers of Staffs, Pitbulls and other related breeds has vastly increased the ban has been nearly unenforceable because its very hard to define a pitbull is a half pitbull half staff cross a pitbull what about the offspring of that cross and a pure pitbull.
Only last week a four year old was mauled to death by the uncle’s dog which also attacked the child’s grandmother.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ll-attack.html
To all the people saying pitbulls are strong smart and trainable why then doesn’t any security force use them as their dog of choice?

Because they won't let go on command I would guess.

Hehe.

This is b/c "pitbull" is not really a breed, but a mixture of breeds.

This has nothing to do with race, but with socialization.

Kinda on topic, Pit Bulls along with a few other breeds mentioned ITT were banned in the apartments I have lived in, it was in the lease. I think the other breeds were German Shepards and, Chows maybe? I'm not sure about the later.

Hey that guy on youtube is offering $20 if you can find a video of a pit releasing on command like other police dogs do. Find one and hit him up.

In an ideal world, then yeah thats what my argument would mean. However, no one is going to say "hey guys, pitbulls arent banned, I want to go get an elephant"

however, if pitbulls are banned, some life nit is going to say something stupid like "german sheppards scare me, lets ban them too" and so on. Bad road to go down.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/8392842.stm

is all anyone needs to know

This is 100% false. One day my whole family was out when my aunt came by to drop off something. Our dog would not let her come near the house even though she had been to our farm several times before. And we are talking hound here, not guard dog.

I'll go out on a limb here an guess that about 95% of posters in this thread have the same problem as Matt - they believe stuff they see on TV.

How is that 100% false? You are saying that no one with a dog has ever been robbed where the dog didn't attack the intruder. I agree it is flawed, but stop using terms like 100% anything, there are examples to go any which way with this.

So Britain banned the whole "breed" in 1991, and apparently has tests to determine if the dog is or isn't part of the "breed".

Just saying it can be done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Dogs_Act_1991

Sorry, I did not make myself clear. The '100% wrong' was refering to what the 'expert' said. Obviously there are exception to every rule, but the claim that it is pretty standard that a dog will not defend an empty house is wrong.

because this one dog you knew that one time defended the house?

All dogs should be banned.

i think everybody should just walk around with one of these.......




sure to make any pit bull, lab, bully, pit bull bully, or bully bully release immediately.

problem solved.

Could it have something to do w/ a dog being the Alpha Male? The guy that was talking was an expert that dealt w/ animal behavior. He was basically saying a dog doesn't know that it's supposed to protect the house. I suppose if a dog is territorital, it would attack anything that approached if it was the alpha male. But that's a territory issue, not a "protect the house from someone stealing my money" issue. But dogs that are pets aren't supposed to be the alpha male and that's where the problems arise I suppose.

Simple. If your dog has to be put to death, because it attacks and cannot be safely handled..... then so does the owner.


If the dog has to be locked up or muzzled, because of blah blah blah..... you get the idea

Ummmm.... isn't this how farming and civilization advanced, so that society could?

I'm currently in the market for a dog. I've been looking on craigslist as one avenue.

Almost all the ads are for pits. Why is that?

Talk to any dog lover over the age of 40 and they'll tell you how every decade has had its own respective black sheep of a breed. Dobermans, chows, german sheps, rottweilers, pit bulls and even freakin' dalmations have had their turn being cast as the villain - do you honestly believe these other dangerous breeds have just stopped being aggressive, or is it possible that breed-specific legislation is arbitrary, impossible to enforce and ******ed? Considering most vets, dog breeders and anyone that knows much of anything about dogs agrees with the latter, I'm gonna stick with them.

Pit bulls have been banned in my province and I've attended a few of the political sessions and mass pit walks to support 'em. This is the same idiocy that makes some people nervous when they walk by my chow chow.

I didn't know Chow Chow's had a bad rep. Are they ill-tempered? It's hard to imagine anyone being afraid of this cuddly thing:

and once again this helps illustrate my point about some of these dogs being a timebomb waiting to go off.

akitas were BRED to be fighting dogs back in japan.

pitbulls are bred for killing and they are very good at it.

just saw something on the tube where a pitbull had little trouble taking down a giant ferocious wild boar.

What makes you think the statistics are made up? I'm not saying they aren't. They were just the first stats I found.

they should all be put down imo

It can be done? The judgment is made by a court and is based on a subjective examination of physical characteristics. We can't even decide OJ killed two people, now we're supposed to ask a judge to determine if a dog looks enough like a pitbull to be in violation and then what? Put it down? Subject the owner to citations if the dog-that-looks-like-pitbull isn't properly muzzled?

Just because the Brits passed some unenforceable law doesn't mean "it can be done."

EDIT: Also, suzzer has had it out for me for a couple years now, no idea why he hates me so much.