Are we leading up to a "zomg pit bulls are rigged" post?

I have watched just about all of them. Love Cesar. Just don't love the morons who like to leave super-powerful, dog-aggressive dogs sitting in the car with the windows rolled down.

Sigh. But some are born with much more potent weapons than others. That is the whole point.

Btw I'm coming around to the idea that licensing or banning them would be a logistical nightmare. I still just hate that these are the moron dog of choice, and that they're a lot more dangerous than previous moron dogs of choice in the past.

Perhaps. I think the more important focus should be the moronic owners, myself.

what kind of question is this LOL....

ordinary bumblefk rednecks should not be given permission to own a pitbull, that is the problem.

They shouldn't be given permission to reproduce either. Let's take away their rights to have children.

So how do you propose to do that? Because apparently whatever we're doing now isn't really doing a good job of educating these people in how to properly raise, control, or protect the rest of the public from their powerful fighting dogs.

I've told this story in OOT before, but it really is a first-hand story. My father and this guys father were best friends growing up. You can probably find it:

Happened in Cali somewhere. I'd guess 10+ years ago.
Kid and his wife had 2 akitas and were trying to have a baby forever.
Finally get a baby.
Baby's like 3 months old and gramma is babysitting one day.
Gramma goes outside for like 2 minutes and then hears a commotion inside.


Dogs ate...the ****ing baby.

grunch..

even if owners are partially to blame by not raising pit bulls right, the dog still has the genetic make-up to be extremely viscous and aggressive. maybe if everyone was the dog whisperer, the problem would go away, but they're not.

i continue to believe pit bull attacks are stat sig more relative to the population of pit bulls - I'd need to see the numbers to change my mind.

it's time to weed out this breed from the population.

no, "i have a great pet pit bull" does not counter my staement.

Here's an interesting vid on APBT's...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTvb-...eature=related

Nope, put me down as a person person if we're making lists.

I don't understand the desire to own an animal and it doesn't seem natural.

Oh so they should own people instead?

If being loving and treating a pit bull good is not enough to maintain safety but it is enough to maintain safety but for say a Golden then that is even more reason to have a special license to own a pit bull.

The consequences of not bringing that pit bull up right are far greater.....

I love how the first thing they always throw up is "Pitbulls don't have locking jaws!". I have never once heard anyone claim that except pitbull sites defending their breed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBFIo...eature=related

The unintentional comedy of this video is amazing

From the comments:

This dude's afraid to even grab his own dog: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXiO_...eature=related

obviously none of those are pit bulls suzzer. You should know that. That's two poodles and a Lab damit.......get it straight.

i definitely think that pit bull owners should be forced to get some type of certification. however you could easily say that about any type of dog.

If anything, it was a "german sheperds are rigged" post. wtf people, please read my posts itt (especially the first one) b/f randomly qouting me and giving snide answers.

Guys, all the statistics showing that pit bulls are dangerous are cool, but they arent necessary. No one is arguing that they are not dangerous. The problem is that you cant just go around banning things that are dangerous. All of you that took my argument and started saying "oh lets ban fish too" are completely right. Thats how ridiculous banning pitbulls would be.

Suzzer (OP) is starting to get that...theres not much you can really do about this besides educating owners

Bazookas and machine guns are banned. I can't drive a dragster on the highway. Lots of cities ban fireworks. I can't own a tiger w/o a very special license. Lawn darts are even banned.

So yes, you can ban things that are dangerous. Even though in all these cases you could still just blame the owner for being irresponsible with their dangerous item.

What I am coming around to is it's a logistical nightmare to try to ban one breed that isn't even a real breed. It's really just a pragmatic problem of how many pit bull attacks from dogs with moron owners is a community willing to put up with - before they try to implement some solution that's messy, less-than-perfect - but still better than nothing?

Dogs are bred over thousands of years to be friendly to people, especially fighting dogs. Tigers are not.

I'm not really for banning pitbulls because I don't think they are THAT dangerous and I'm willing to live with some danger in the world, but a lot of dangerous things are and should be banned.

Can't you see that by saying the opposition position of banning pitbulls means the fish should be banned - you are saying that lions, tigers, and bull elephants in must must be allowed?

What if someone breeds a dog that is 10x as aggressive as any other dog and weighs 200lbs? Must that be legal?

It's not all or nothing. The question really is, are pitbulls too dangerous to be allowed to breed or out with people in public or w/e? That's it. There's no logical proof of right or wrong. You just have to weigh some people's interest vs. others.

My personal opinion is that despite pitbulls or other fighting dogs being MUCH more dangerous than most dogs, they aren't really that dangerous - not THAT many people are actually attacked considering how many such dogs there are and that it's a risk that should be allowed.

Yes but some dogs are also bred to attack other animals, which transfers over to attacking other dogs quite easily. And when they're also trained to stalk then attack without warning, and never let go even on command - you get a volatile situation. Attacking other dogs is still a big problem.

Agree. But the problem is really improper socialization. So i think i would agree with you in banning dogs when the owner is not competent. He shouldnt be allowed to have any pet, then, not just pitbulls, b/c he cant treat them properly(i.e. best to the animal).