Adopting two kids has been a stated goal of mine for over a decade. Try as I may, I've never been able to get my **** together enough to take that on.

Plus I'm unmarred and live in California. I'm sure I'd be put on the pedo list simply by calling the DHCS for information.

Should most humans?

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Certainly not ones who can't even figure out how to turn off their sig

I do think the person had somewhat of a point. Things that my dog would have tolerated absolutely when he was younger with kids I'm not so sure he would be as tolerant of now as he is an old dog with arthritis and plenty of aches and pains associated with being elderly. I still don't think he would bite but he would definitely react if a kid tried to crawl on his back, because it would be excruciatingly painful for him. Teaching kids how to treat dogs is pretty important regardless if you actually have dogs yourself.

I've been at the vet in the past when my dog had half ripped his claw out of his front paw and a little girl, probably aged 7, repeatedly was grabbing hold of my dog and hugging him even after I told her that he had a very sore paw and to please stop hugging him as I was concerned she would step on his paw. Then the girl tried to grab his paw to inspect it. The parent was totally oblivious and ignored my requests. Thankfully nothing bad happened but it was pretty stressful.

Yeah for sure teach your kids to respect dogs. But also it's hard to tell from any of these pics if the dog is being abused bad enough to feel the need to defend itself - which is the ONLY time a well-raised dog should be aggressive with a child.

Also I take issue that no dogs should ever be left alone with children (depending on age obviously). You should be able to trust your dog around your child 100% or don't have the dog. Smells like pit owners trying to lump all dogs in the same basket. I'd trust most family dogs we've had with kids w/o even thinking about it.

Fwiw I don't think either of my dogs would bite a child. They are both reasonably well-trained and actually really love kids. Also agree the notion of not being able to leave kids of a certain age unsupervised with dogs is pretty ridiculous. We always had dog/s with us when we were outside with no adults, it was considered safer for us not less safe.

Is there anyone on the face of the earth that thinks their dog would bite a child? I'm going with no.

^^ so true lol

its one of those statements/questions that always have the same answer like, "do you think your child is smart?"

how many parents say "nah, billy is ****ing dumb as ****"

No, but there's people who kinda know they can't leave their pit alone with a child for whatever reason (outside pressure, pit acting sketchy, etc). They probably want to project that onto all dog owners.

My dog will bite kids. He’s bitten both my kids. He also can’t come close to breaking skin.

https://www.spin.com/2018/01/eric-do...s-trump-wolff/

The main reason I don't think my dogs would bite a child is that they have both had kids do totally ott things to them and they never have. Possibly I have just been lucky.

On the other end of the spectrum apparently PETA is killing healthy, loved animals and immediately putting them to death? Apparently they believe death is preferable to anything but free-range freedom for any animal? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0e60c4aa36711

What in the actual ****?

Doesn't surprise me at all. PETA has always been a crazy, radical fringe operation. They don't think there should be any such thing as 'pets', and as domesticated animals are obviously not really capable to live in the wild, they should just all be put down.

Yeah **** PETA. Dogs and cats can live in perfect harmony as pets. You're basically talking about extinction of species that adapted themselves to live with humans.

Meat is murder OTOH is a fair moral argument. I'll still eat meat until I die. But if everyone else stopped I'd stop. I guess that makes me a go-along-Nazi. Ah well - there are degrees of moral failing. A cow that lives her whole life in a pasture then is slaughtered as quickly as possible isn't remotely in the ballpark of human atrocities.

I’m a go along Nazi who trades in sweet little self-lies and plenty of head in the sand, but there are no cows that live the life you described here on the way to your bbq.

I’m not peta level fringe either, and not on board with this action, but philosophicaly I can see an argument that the worst treatment of dogs and cats by people outweighs the other end of the spectrum if you are questioning whether we “should” have them at all. It isn’t a binary choice, obviously, but if it were I’d have to go with **** humans we don’t deserve the privilege even though many treat their personal animals kindly.

Suzzer is an animal slavery supporter.

lol at thinking your deformed runt of a pug "adapted" itself to do anything. Nothing wrong with admitting we've enslaved animals and play with, neglect or kill them at at a whim.

Not every dog is an overbred pug. A popular current theory is dogs evolved from tame wolves who hung around stone-age trash dumps.

I have friends who rescue bulldogs because they feel sorry for them. They absolutely think the breed should be ended. I guess they should just kill them, but giving them a happy life seems like a pretty close second.

I’m with your friends, but I guess peta is focusing on the ones that are not being saved and pampered. I have a 4lb chihuahua who I shower with love and care, and I know he should not exist. I “saved” him but it’s still a selfish act. I don’t think about the thousands in the shelters on a day to day basis because I am doing my part. That’s bull**** if I’m really a dog lover. I’m a my dog lover in the end like everyone else.

The whole dynamic is bizarre and demands a divorce from rational thinking. I rushed my dog to the vet when he ate some chocolate to pay hundreds of dollars to induce vomiting. Along the way we passed who knows how much roadkill—-and the fact that my dog is about the size of a squirrel adds to the joke.

Pet cemeteries, dog groomers, dog parks, cat ramps, gourmet food. It’s all for us.

I wouldn't see a difference if PETA ran up to the cows on the pastures, stole them, and then put them down. It's theft and murder just the same.

I have no moral issues eating meat, and if everyone on earth stopped, I'd still eat meat. The animals we use for meat are not the same thing as animals we use as pets. A cat is a popular pet on farms for a good reason. A dog wasn't bred to be a bed mate for lonely people in LA. They are working animals who were bred to do certain things well.

Likewise, farm animals are unlucky breeds because we were able to tame them enough to sit them in pens. They serve a purpose, and it happens to be work (oxen and horses), or food (cows, pigs, etc). It's strange to me because humans often fight for the rights of animals much harder than they do the rights and safety of humans.

Why do they want to end this breed? Do they want to end other breeds?

Supa bringing the edge

re PETA, it is pretty disingenuous to characterize their position as wanting to wipe out a breed or bring about the extinction of a species.

It’s becoming less and less clear to me that there is a material difference between human consciousness and animal consciousness. But that doesn’t bother me when I sit down to a delicious burger or serving of soylent green, as the case may be.