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Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed? Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed?
View Poll Results: Should pitbulls be allowed to breed
Yes
391 46.94%
No
289 34.69%
Yes but only if you have to have a special license to own one
153 18.37%

12-02-2016 , 07:02 PM
I've been running in my neighborhood a lot lately. In addition to the large pitbull behind a 2.5' high decorative fence who woofs at me - at least half of the dogs I see people walking are pitbulls. And I live in a suburb of LA where the median home is around $1M.

Wtf people.
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12-03-2016 , 01:48 AM
"hes such a sweet dog, never thought hed bite anyone. hes never bitten anyone before."

gee where have we hewrd that before?

I wonder if the guy would have attacked her if she had her dog on a leash (as im guessing the law requires)?
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12-03-2016 , 02:11 AM
pit bull was just biting the nearest person. That that person was mid-rape at the time was just variance.
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12-03-2016 , 02:13 AM
It was a looper pit bull - trying to maul the baby before it could get made.
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12-03-2016 , 02:39 AM
A few years ago, my wife left for work at 4:00 am and saw a guy she thought was tweaking in the parking lot of our old apartment complex. The guy was breathing hard and amped up while holding a stick. She saw two pit bulls in front of her car and she figured they were his dogs and he was beating them. So she drove between the guy and the dogs to break them up. She continued on to work and passed a cop car on her way out of the parking lot.

Come to find out the guy was being attacked and the cop was coming to help. When the cop got out of his car, one of the pits charged him so he shot it with a shotgun. The dog cowered for a bit then rushed him again until he shot and killed it.

We didn't live in the ghetto and still don't but I make my wife take pepper spray whenever she goes for a walk because of pit bulls. When my kids are with us and I see a pit, I'm immediately alert and in protective mode. That's not normal for me and doesn't happen with any other breed.

I don't buy the crap that "durp, it's how they're raised, durp." That's a cop out and an excuse for a horrible evil breed that should be exterminated. All breeds of dogs can be mistreated and raised poorly but I've never heard of a beagle killing a kid.
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12-03-2016 , 04:59 AM
I don't believe you, Doctor Meth...
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12-03-2016 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
I don't believe you, Doctor Meth...
I don't care what you believe, blando1.0...
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12-03-2016 , 08:00 AM
Sounds made up for sure.
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12-03-2016 , 12:17 PM
LOL Comment sections always the same: "Poor dog, damn humans"
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12-03-2016 , 12:42 PM
One thing I've noticed whenever some pitbull rescue post shows up in my Facebook feed is that the dog is always of course described as a huge sweetie who might lick you to death but it's also VERY important that he be the only pet in the house. For reasons that don't include the fact that he'll rip your other dog/cat/baby to shreds, I'm sure.
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12-03-2016 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Sounds made up for sure.
It's not but carry on with your denial.
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12-03-2016 , 01:02 PM
20 minutes at the dog park. Big park, probably 3-4 acres:

-show up and place in 100% empty. Very rare, but more will show up shortly for sure.
-a couple dogs show up and everyone starts running around.
-a couple more then show up, including pit and typical young, dumb female owner.
-pit instantly starts terrorizing all the dogs and begins to zero in on my puppy
-bad owner asks whose puppy is this
-I see exactly what is about to happen and leash my dog and begin exiting
-don't even get out of park and dog is straight up attacking another dog
-I exit and then just watch as bad owner stands there going "NO...NO...!" while dog ignores her.
-they finally separate dogs and then horrible chick pit owner stands there going "omg omg omg I'm shaking. He has never done anything like that before..."


Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck you honey, I hope your dog eventually eats your eyeball.
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12-03-2016 , 03:08 PM
"We were watching Beethoven and I forgot what made Riley go crazy. " LOL

http://kxan.com/2016/12/02/austin-bo...er-dog-attack/
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12-03-2016 , 11:47 PM
I wish I could make it so every pit bull that will attack in the future will do so tonight at midnight. All owners are required to either get rid of their dog or sleep with them in the room tonight.

The big sweeties.
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12-04-2016 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by miajag
One thing I've noticed whenever some pitbull rescue post shows up in my Facebook feed is that the dog is always of course described as a huge sweetie who might lick you to death but it's also VERY important that he be the only pet in the house. For reasons that don't include the fact that he'll rip your other dog/cat/baby to shreds, I'm sure.
This is common at my shelter, among non-pits, and even some cats.


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12-04-2016 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
"We were watching Beethoven and I forgot what made Riley go crazy. " LOL

http://kxan.com/2016/12/02/austin-bo...er-dog-attack/
It's on the rest of us to avoid the pit's hair trigger.
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12-05-2016 , 10:44 AM
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12-05-2016 , 11:36 AM
dogs are not children, no matter how often you dress them up.
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12-06-2016 , 08:56 AM
I'll admit I'm an evil clown, so I know what comes with the territory, but I'm kinda saddened and disappointed that nobody ever addressed this post:


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Originally Posted by Used2Play
I'll give you what I know from working over 12 years in animal shelters.

The majority of large breed strays are "bully breeds". They come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. I don't know what they are mixed with but we tend to label them all as "pit bull mix" in our system. I'd rather label them "mixed breed" which would be 100% accurate but our system makes you choose a primary breed.

Then we get a good number of pure bred German Shepards and Huskies.

Only 20% of our strays are reclaimed. Why aren't the other 80% claimed? I believe that is because these animals are "resident dogs". They reside in the property/yard and are not socialized, walked, trained, or let inside the house. They are not on the street long. They are not family dogs. People have no attachment to them and may find it a relief to find the dog escaped (they were tired of the barking or buying food for them). Many of the dogs have serious medical issues, they obviously have not been taken to a vet at any point.

Dogs are such social animals that leaving them alone in a yard is essentially "solitary confinement". When the stray hold period is up we have to decide whether the animal is safe to put up for adoption. Many of these dogs are friendly, some are aloof, some scared, some aggressive.

We do get labs but it's rare. However they are a popular breed. Why don't we get them in proportion to their population? I think it's because these are mostly family dogs. They aren't left alone in yards 24/7. They are in general more socialized because of this. And this increased socialization leads to less dog bite instances (you can find lots of serious lab bite stories out there, but not in proportion to pit bulls or Shepards)

One time I'm watching the news and "Pit bull attacks children" is the lead headline. There is more to this story though that isn't talked about by the news team. However you can get the facts from the on site reporter.

- The dog broke off its chain and attacked kids waiting on the side walk (it most likely lived on this chain)
- When the camera panned to the dog house it was covered with graffiti
- They did a quick interview with an elderly neighbor who said kids who lived there "did things to it to make it mean".

None of that is talked about, but it is in the story. This would be a cruel experiment but imagine this:

Take 1000 Golden Retrievers, 1000 Border Collies, 1000 "pitbulls"

Tie them all to chains in the backyard of a house, never leaving that chain for a walk or a game of fetch. During that time allow kids to tease them, throw rocks, firecrackers, poke with sticks. After 6 months of this, cut the chain.

What difference do you think there would be between breeds when they ran into kids on the sidewalk? You think any of them would have a positive interaction with the kids in a higher proportion than the other breeds?

To me this is what is happening with most of these bite stories. These aren't family pets. At best most of the animals are neglected (left alone in a yard all day but given food/water) and at worst are teased, abused, and/or tortured.

This most recent dog that killed a woman in Montreal, leading to BSL passing, was killed by a dog unattended in an adjacent yard that dug its way out. The breed of the dog is unknown at this point but they did do a DNA test.

Under socialized, unattended, and around unstable people. These are the dogs most likely to bite. The breed du jour to be neglected nowadays is the "pit bull"/mix unfortunately. Not that millions aren't living normal lives with their families with children, and cats and what not. But 5 million pit bulls got up and went to bed and nothing happened is not news. An unstable dog that kills someone is.
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12-06-2016 , 09:18 PM
whats to address? His hypothetical thought experiment? Ill go ahead and say that none of those chained dogs would probably make ideal housepets; thats the wrong question. the right question is whether theyd pose an equal danger to children and the elderly.
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12-06-2016 , 09:47 PM
No question, no hypothesis, and no conclusion, but address this!
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12-07-2016 , 12:18 AM
what blows my mind is that if we replaced "pit bulls" with "guns" in that "what about the pits that DONT murder babies?" Hed instantly recognize how dumb that logic is.
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12-07-2016 , 12:25 AM
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what blows my mind is that if we replaced "pit bulls" with "guns" in that "what about the pits that DONT murder babies?" Hed instantly recognize how dumb that logic is.
Um. This is the go to argument for pro gun nuts. B-b-b-ut responsible gun owners! And that you can get stabbed which is the equivalent of the golden retrievers bite too argument.
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12-07-2016 , 09:18 AM
I think we should let the free market sort it out
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