Jay you mind linking that page?

Chick I know on FB constantly posts this stuff with pictures of her cute pits and her 8 and 10 year-old stepsons (luckily they're passed that tempting toddler stage):

Always gets lots of replies like this:

I mean if half the pit owners on a poker site can't figure out the fallacy in "but my pit is so sweet", the rest of the public has zero chance.

Wonder if pits are less likely to attack if another normal dog is around. And wonder if that dog would have defended the child against the pit

not among pit-tards.

There is no such thing as common knowledge among the pit-tards.

It probably depends on the dog. Most small dogs would probably be pretty useless.

A German Shepherd on the other hand, will almost certainly defend a member of their pack and will often protect random strangers and children too.

I've read/heard a lot of stories about German Shepherds protecting people from other dogs and bad people. Apparently they have really good instincts when it comes to people... and if they sense that there's danger, they'll go into protection mode.

That was one of the reasons why I wanted a German Shepherd. They're probably the best dog to have if you need protection from a person. Obviously a pit would probably win in a fight against a GSD, but maybe not... depends on the sizes of the dogs I would think. Either way, they'd still defend you with their life.

Here's a cool post from the German Shepherd Forums (the poster was a female btw)

I was driving home from our hike one day last summer and the windows were down, music was on and life was good. As I turn onto my street, some guy cuts me off. I had to slam on the brakes - hard. I tapped the horn and he stops his car, throws it in park and gets out. He starts coming towards me and you can see he's pissed.

(There is a mini mall right beside us, and I live on the other side of the mini mall ... there is always about 20 people loitering at the mall, and I know most of them - at least by sight.)

I get out of the car and walk towards him. He stops and starts yelling at me - what kind of idiot am I to honk the horn at him, blah blah blah ... Then he starts walking towards me and waving his arms at me. I told him to back off. He keeps yelling and getting closer (I'm slowly backing up - trying to keep distance between us).

Evidently he got too close to Kyleigh's liking because the next thing I know, she's out of the car and has put herself between me and the guy. She is barking up a storm, her hackles are up and I just stopped and waited.

He froze. His mouth dropped open and he just stood there looking from her to me to her and back to me.

I asked him if he was done yelling at me.

He just stared at me and said: Can you please call off your dog?

I called Ky to my side and put her in a down stay and asked him again if he was done.

He didn't say a word, just walked backwards very slowly to his car, got in and drove away.

Off course, by this time there's a bit of a crowd standing on the sidewalk watching this. The guy who owns the butcher store was there, as well as the guy who runs the pizza place (very good friends of mine since moving there!) They come up to me and ask if I'm ok, which I am, and then pat Kyleigh on the head and brag about what an awesome dog she is ... she even got pork hock from the butcher for standing up to the bad guy!!!

Here's a sweet video of two german shepherds protecting their owner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLq-5SbHsGE

This video is pretty hilarious, because you'd have to be an idiot to throw stuff at a guy with two German Shepherds.

http://dogbitelaw.com/parents/a-dog-...your-kids-safe

Each additional dog makes an attack more likely and more severe. And pit bull + german sheperd is a pretty common attack combo from my reading on dogsbite.org

This should rustle some jimmies with the pit crowd:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dog-owner.html

^^^ this kind of stuff happens all the time.

just type "police shoot dog" into google news every once in a while and there are always a few stories of cops shooting the family pet for no reason whatsoever. a lot of the time, the dog isn't doing anything and isn't even a large or aggressive breed.

here's a recent story where the idiot cop accidentally shoots a child while trying to kill the family dog:

https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2...ot-family-dog/

just another reason to never call the police unless you absolutely have to. they love killing dogs for some reason.

Pretty sure that story rustles everyone's jimmies

Here is the link. Heartbreaking story.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1126725

I am a big animal lover and lost my last dog in June. I want a dog and just started researching shelters and adoption agencies. The vast majority of dogs without homes as far as I have seen are pits. I feel badly and it makes me sad to see them homeless, esp the urgent ones who only have a few days to get adopted before being put down.

The thing is, I hate to admit it but I am just too scared to take in a pit. I have friends who have them and have never had a bad experience with one. I even volunteered at a shelter and the only bad experience I had was with a Golden Retriever who was pissed off as hell.

I also have 3 cats I live with and couldn't risk their safety. Or my grandmothers. Or my neighbors.

As bad as I feel about it I have to overlook these dogs while I am looking. I really do wish they would stop being bred. Shelters are full of them and they are always on the "about to be euthanized" list. I am certain that the majority of those dogs that need homes are good natured and non violent, but because I can't be certain which ones those are I can't chance it.

Shelters should just put down every pit that comes in (after waiting for the owner for a requisite time of course). They shouldn't adopt any out. Even assuming pits can be safely raised from puppies (they can't) - you never know what a shelter pit has been through. But of course shelters have a financial incentive to do the opposite. Not a good situation.

One of the best pit owners I know rescues pits from shelters, one of his dogs went through a lot I guess and he muzzles him when he takes him out in public. He won't let anyone pet either of his pits, and the non muzzled one is actually pretty friendly. That's a good owner.

Sounds like a blast to have as a pet.

financial incentive?

Yeah the shelters get paid or something based on adopting out a certain % of the dogs that come in. It's explained within the last few pages of this thread.

I guess it's possible things work differently at the facilities in your state. I volunteer at a non-profit, and have never heard of anything like this. If anything, given the costs of feeding/housing/medical, they have a financial incentive to get rid of them asap; immediately putting down pits would almost certainly save them money, given how long it takes on average to adopt them out.

New thread question: Could an adult male kill a pitbull barehanded? More than one?

I think I could pretty easily kill one straight up but with 2 I'd probably be ****ed.

Well maybe if you walked up to the thing and grabbed him by the collar before he knew what hit him.

But in a ring with a fully enraged pit? **** that.

My buddy in KC has two pits, one is the biggest pit I've ever seen. Its head is like a cinder block. I wouldn't want to take on that dog under any circumstances.

I stayed there one night when I was in town and was terrified the whole night. Get up to pee - hey guys - remember me? Jim's GOOD friend? Remember we were all hanging out just a few hours ago? Nice doggy that's not wagging his tail just staring at me. I spent some time trying to figure out how long it would take them to chew through my bedroom door.

Exactly. They have an incentive to get them out the door immediately. They're very expensive dogs to house. They have incentives to not kill them because people give lots of money and volunteer hours to "no kill" shelters. Add it up and you have a pit bull that disfigured a 2 year old being placed in a house with a 5 year old.

Pretty sure I could kill 1 relatively easily but doing so would suck. Two, it would depend.

A large enraged pit with no collar is coming at you. Good luck. Better protect the genitals first, neck and face second.

Best strategy might be to let it have your arm then try to gouge out its eyes or crush it somehow. If it's a male maybe you can rip its junk off.

I weigh 250, so I might let it one have my arm then get it on the ground and pile drive both my knees into it's rib cage. That might do it. Actually I might try to kick it in the jaw as it charges. But if that fails it could leave the genitals wide open.

Yeah, the eye gouge is good. You're gonna win but probably be mutilated, possibly with life-long consequences.

My SIL rescues pits and one ate through a door. Idk how long it took.

How many children were lost on the other side?