And the title of the thread is pretty ridiculous.

I tried to make the argument years ago that a human's life is more valuable than an animal's life and got trolled into oblivion, don't try to go down that road whatever you do.

Anecdotal time. Note this is the only dog attack I remember witnessing.

I was in a parking lot facing the sidewalk about a month ago waiting for someone when a woman walked by with a child in a stroller and a small dog leashed to either the stroller or to her hand that was pushing the stroller. I couldn't tell which. Suddenly a small pitbull ran around the woman on the road side heading for the smaller dog which lunged forward and left on its lead pulling one wheel of the stroller off the curb which in turn pulled the lady off the curb. As she fell she knocked the pitbull over as its jaws were literally coming down on her dog. As this point we have a stroller on its side with a child in it, the woman on her side and the pitbull now resetting and going after her dog. I'm out of my car at this point but barely and still 30ft away. Again just as the pitbull (who is on a lead btw) is just about to finally chomp down on the small dog. The owner? comes sliding in like a guy sliding into 2nd base grabbing the lead all in one motion once again saving the little dog at the last possible second. He then just hightails it out of there leaving the woman on the ground and the baby stroller laying on its side with the kid thankfully still strapped in. I got over there as quick as I could and helped her get straightened out. To her credit while shaking and upset she was on her cell in a heartbeat calling the cops. Without multiple strokes of luck in the scenario it could have been extremely ugly.

Just when I think Lord of the Idiots has been crowned, a new contender emerges.

This is pretty much the winning argument, not just for the individual but for society as a whole.

You don't need to euthanaze the breed. The way it was done in the UK was to ban breeding and eventually they died out (apart from a small number of illegally held ones).

So what was idiotic about the post?

What's your interpretation? That the pit just wanted to play?

I suspect you just made this up. There are 5 million dog bites every year in the USA (800k severe enough to require medical attention). There are 78 million dogs in the USA so like 1 dog bite per 15 dogs per year and 1 severe dog bite per 100 dogs/year. So unless pit bulls are like 8 standard deviations less likely to bite than average...

Just saw this post. If cows are as dangerous as you say, i think it's totally reasonable that i not be exposed to them as i walk around my town.

I was at a client's house today and he had a pretty big pitbull. My guess is that it probably weighed at least 50 lbs... but it was pure muscle. Definitely pretty scary looking.

He said the got the dog because his house was broken into twice. He hasn't had a break-in since getting the pit. So that's one reason to get a pit. Obviously there are other breeds that also work well as guard dogs (or at least as a deterrent)... but most of those breeds are pretty big. Not everyone wants to live with a 100 pound animal. There's no other 30 pound dog that would be any use as a guard dog.

That being said, I would never want to own a pit. You can basically never take them off leash in public. You can never leave them alone with another animals (at least you shouldn't if you care for that other animal). You should never leave a pit alone with children (and probably shouldn't even have children in the same house at a pit). As an owner, you have to be constantly on guard because a lot of these dogs are ticking time bombs and you have to constantly be aware that they can be set off at any time for seemingly no reason.

Depending on where you live and what insurance company you use... home insurance can be a real issue if you have a pit:

http://thelawdictionary.org/article/...surance-rates/

There was a discussion about getting a pit in the german shepherd forums for anyone who is interested:

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...out-there.html

Basically, a guy who just got a female german shepherd puppy also recently rescued a young female pit. Almost everyone in the forums was trying to tell the person that it was a horrible idea (because female GSDs can be very aggressive towards other female dogs... and pits are just aggressive to other dogs in general). Many people think that these two dogs will have to be kept apart at all times with a "crate and rotate" program (where one dog has to be crated while the other one is un-crated).

Obviously the forum is somewhat biased towards german shepherds... but that forum is filled with a lot of knowledgeable dog people... and german shepherds are obviously a big dog with some problems of their own... but even these people (who are very dog-friendly) didn't have many nice things to say about pits.

I don't know. To sniff the dog? To play? To bite? Who knows. But to jump to the conclusion of dog looks like he's stalking (which might not even be true) to trying to kill my small dog is just such a ridiculous leap.

I did. But the point still stands of pit bull might be stalking me = trying to kill my friends dog is just an incredible over reaction to the situation

I think the point of suzzer's story was that the type of person that tends to own a pit bull is exactly the type of person we don't want to own a pit bull.

Do you know what a stalking dog looks like? It's very noticeably different from a dog being friendly.

My Facebook and IG is always full of morons posting pics of their damn Pitt Bulls.

#pitstagram #dontbullymybreed #hellopitty #pitsofig

Well I guess the consensus is my dog half-sucks

This post is great, and people disagreeing with any part of it probably shouldnt own a pit.

Maybe. But it's also the same type of story people use to increase the fear of pitbulls. People are already uneasy about pitbulls there's no need to raise fear levels with "this one time a pitbull almost killed my friends dog" when that wasn't the case. There's already enough true stories about the atrocities of pitbulls that there's no need to embellish things

Dude it's a dog. Many different dogs stalk for different reasons. Im just saying that just because a pitbull stalked him does not equate to pitbull tried to kill my friends dog. It doesn't even mean the pitbull tried to attack his friends dog

Wow, amazing. "We can't know why that dog was stalking suzzers, it's silly to think he had harmful intent." Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night dude.

dude a pitbull off the leash you have to be careless not to assume something bad can happend, if i m in the street with a small dog i ll be extra carefull everytime we meet a dog of the leash, if it s a pit people have good reason to assume the worst and get ready to react.

reading comprehension is just at an all time low so I'm not even gonna bother

Imo stalking is not necessarily aggressive and could be playing.

Aside from stalking, a lot of dogs playing looks like fighting. In some way, I wonder if pits are playing when they are fighting. Most young dogs will do lots of mouthing and play biting and have their tails wagging. If they are really aggressive you can tell in their growling, their tails, their ears and their fur standing on end. But maybe pits will bite and tear and still have their tails wagging and it's all play - and they're immune to pain anyway.

No matter what the guy with the pit off the leash is irresponsible and the one worrying about the pit "stalking" the other dog isnt.

Wether the pit is playfull or a straight up killer doesnt matter much

Yeah, I just meant in general people misinterpret dogs playing with each other as aggression a lot.

Right, I'm not saying he was incorrect in being nervous, I'm just saying to tell the story in a way of a pitbull tried to kill my friends dog this one time is not remotely true

It s not really misinterpreting and more beeing carefull since as you stated it s kinda hard to differenciate when you dont know the dog.
I m not scared of dogs and would be more on the careless side playing with random unknown dogs yet when my stupid neighbors let their most likely pit( a 6 month puppy who look like a dog on steroid) named tyson(yeah nice clue to spot a moron who want a scarry bad ass dog) wander in my residence i feel a bit uncomfortable when i m alone , but when i was taking care of a small dog in june it was not funny at all. And the dog look super playfull and might be a sweetheart and everything, but yet he scared a few of my friends and make me uncomfortable