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Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed? Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed?
View Poll Results: Should pitbulls be allowed to breed
Yes
392 46.83%
No
290 34.65%
Yes but only if you have to have a special license to own one
155 18.52%

03-18-2010 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Freakin
Most pits would just latch onto their owners throats and not let go so they did not have to suffer. I commend this dog.
lol
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03-18-2010 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Freakin
Most pits would just latch onto their owners throats and not let go so they did not have to suffer. I commend this dog.
FACT: PITBULLS DO NOT HAVE LOCKING JAWS!!!
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03-29-2010 , 04:51 PM
Woman saved from carjacking by her pit bull

This woman was a foster parent to a pitbull rescued from a fighting ring. This is a dog from a local rescue organization that I've been following for a while.
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03-29-2010 , 06:47 PM
Its nice and everything but that dog did exactly what every dog would do. If it had actually bit the car jacker around the throat and wouldnt let go with its locking jaws of death then it is a positive story about Pits, as it stands it is just another story as why dogs are great and all other pets are pathetic.

Also the last story you bumped the thread was about a service dog. No one has ever said Pits are bad in the hands of experts and every possible breed that dude would have chosen and then trained would have reacted the same.
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03-29-2010 , 07:57 PM
voted yes, haven't read any of the thread.
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03-29-2010 , 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
If it had actually bit the car jacker around the throat and wouldnt let go with its locking jaws of death then it is a positive story about Pits
Uhm, no.
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03-31-2010 , 12:43 PM
Some helpful advice if anyone is faced with the op's situation. May have already been mentioned. If the dog won't release it's grip stick your fingers or stick or something in the dogs anus. Sounds funny now but works pretty effectively. Enjoy.


"The dude was punching the **** out of his dog in the head, telling them to get a butter knife from inside the chinese place. I considered trying to hook the dogs mouth but thought better of it. Finally one of the workers at the chinese place came out with a bucket of cold water that he managed to get all over me as well as the pit bull. Finally the other dog's skin started to slip out of the pit bulls mouth and we got them apart. The dog was ok but a little scraped up. He was wagging his tail 30 seconds later."
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03-31-2010 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mwa
Some helpful advice if anyone is faced with the op's situation. May have already been mentioned. If the dog won't release it's grip stick your fingers or stick or something in the dogs anus. Sounds funny now but works pretty effectively. Enjoy.
Awesome.
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03-31-2010 , 03:56 PM
Ive heard that before. Im pretty sure snopes never investigated if that one was real or not, lol.
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03-31-2010 , 04:18 PM
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03-31-2010 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chloe p
Speaking as an animal control officer, I am of the opinion that NO, pit bulls should not be allowed to breed-- but not for the reasons previously stated in this thread.

Pit bulls are my favorite breed of dog. They are the most loving, devoted, enthusiastic, fun-loving dogs you can imagine.

I have been on several dogfighting busts. Without exception, every dog we have ever confiscated from these busts are the most loving, attention-starved dogs you can imagine to people. Get them within 10 yards of another dog and you have an insane, blood-thirsty tasmanian devil on your hands who will lock onto the neck of the other dog and not release until that dog is dead (or if you have a breaking stick on hand).

The reason has nothing to do with their upbringing. As someone else previously alluded to, labrador retreivers were bred to retrieve, rat terriers were bred to kill rats, and pit bulls were, yes, bred to kill other dogs.

At the same time, pit bulls were bred to explicitly not go after humans. In the dogfighting pit, the handler needs to be able to move into the fray of the fight and handle his dog without being bitten. Any "man-biters" are culled from the fighitng line.

Yes, there are some pit bulls who live harmoniously with both animals and people. (I myself had one.) Why? Because dogs are pack animals; the instinct to kill their own kind is such an unnatural one that it can be bred out of the pit bull within a several generations.

The instances of pit bulls killing humans almost invariably involve dogs who are (a) unneutred (b)unsocialized (c) kept at the end of a chain and (d) the product of irresponsible backyard breeders who confuse human aggression with dog aggression and hence deliberately breed a human-aggressive dog in the mistaken belief that it will be a good fighter.

Pit bulls should NOT be bred by anyone. There is no such thing as a responsible breeder. Shelters across the country are FULL of loving, sweet, non-aggressive pit bulls who will be killed because there are no homes for them. Creating more of them is nothing short of evil. In some urban areas, pit bulls comprise 90% of the shelter population.

The reason for not breeding pit bulls is the same for not breeding any dog. I challenge anyone to work a day at an animal shelter and spend some time euthanizing beautiful, healthy, loving, stable dogs and then see how you feel about breeding your dog, regardless of the breed.

For pit bulls, the problem of overbreeding is compounded 500%. There are more pit bulls and pit mixes in this country than any other type of dog. It is a human-generated problem, and humans need to take responsibilty and fix it.

This is the one of the best posts I have ever read. I have also seen many wonderful animals destroyed because of a lack of available homes. I wish people would stop breeding, esp those who "love animals" and aren't in it for the money.
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04-01-2010 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mwa
If the dog won't release it's grip stick your fingers or stick or something in the dogs anus. Sounds funny now but works pretty effectively. Enjoy.
Hot.
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04-01-2010 , 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit
always makes me lol
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04-01-2010 , 12:08 PM
Btw I had a pit lunge at me walking the other day. It was obviously very young and clueless, but also one of the bigger ones I've seen. Gigantic head.

What scared me is the owner, a woman, didn't really correct it much. She just kind of gently pulled him back and said "Oh come on, really?" to the dog. Um, I don't think dogs are too good with sarcasm lady. Yay another giant pit who is going to grow up thinking it's the alpha dog.
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04-01-2010 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Btw I had a pit lunge at me walking the other day. It was obviously very young and clueless, but also one of the bigger ones I've seen. Gigantic head.

What scared me is the owner, a woman, didn't really correct it much. She just kind of gently pulled him back and said "Oh come on, really?" to the dog. Um, I don't think dogs are too good with sarcasm lady. Yay another giant pit who is going to grow up thinking it's the alpha dog.
Thread should be retitled "should pit bull owners be allowed to breed?" imo.

(cue flaming from tiniest of tiny minority of pit owners who arent terrible people)
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04-01-2010 , 02:55 PM
PIT BULL OWNERS DO NOT HAVE LOCKING JAWS!!!
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04-01-2010 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
PIT BULL OWNERS DO NOT HAVE LOCKING JAWS!!!
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04-02-2010 , 01:16 AM
Not shocking that suzzer and Phil also suck in other threads
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04-04-2010 , 10:56 AM
I did nto respond to the poll as "none of the above" was not an option. I think breeding should stop on all dogs in America. Americans need to educate themselves and have more regulations on breeding.

I own two Pits, APBT's and it just makes me sick the reality out there.

A little Knowledge goes a long way:

I think our society needs a huge "Wake-up" call. As a shelter manager, I am going to share a little insight with you all...a view from the inside if you will. First off, all of you people who have ever surrendered a pet to a shelter or humane society should be made to work in the "back" of an animal shelter for just one day. Maybe if you saw the life drain from a few sad, lost, confused eyes, you would stop flagging ads and help these animals find homes. That puppy you just bought will most likely end up in my shelter when it's not a cute little puppy anymore. Just so you know there's a 90% chance that dog will never walk out of the shelter it’s dumped at. Purebred or not! About 25% of all of the dogs that are "owner surrenders" or "strays", that come into a shelter are purebred dogs.

The most common excuses: "We are moving and we can't take our dog (or cat)." Really? Where are you moving too that doesn't allow pets? Or they say "The dog got bigger than we thought it would". How big did you think a German Shepherd would get? "We don't have time for her". Really? I work a 10-12 hour day and still have time for my 6 dogs! "She's tearing up our yard". How about making her a part of your family? They always tell me "We just don't want to have to stress about finding a place for her we know she'll get adopted, she's a good dog".

Odds are your pet won't get adopted & how stressful do you think being in a shelter is? Well, let me tell you, your pet has 72 hours to find a new family from the moment you drop it off. Sometimes a little longer if the shelter isn't full and your dog manages to stay completely healthy. If it sniffles, it dies. Your pet will be confined to a small run/kennel in a room with other barking or crying animals. It will have to relieve itself where it eats and sleeps. It will be depressed and it will cry constantly for the family that abandoned it. If your pet is lucky, I will have enough volunteers in that day to take him/her for a walk. If I don't, your pet won't get any attention besides having a bowl of food slid under the kennel door and the waste sprayed out of its pen with a high-powered hose. If your dog is big, black or any of the "Bully" breeds (pit bull, rottie, mastiff, etc) it was pretty much dead when you walked it through the front door. Those dogs just don't get adopted. It doesn't matter how 'sweet' or 'well behaved' they are.

If your dog doesn't get adopted within its 72 hours and the shelter is full, it will be destroyed. If the shelter isn't full and your dog is good enough, and of a desirable enough breed it may get a stay of execution, but not for long . Most dogs get very kennel protective after about a week and are destroyed for showing aggression. Even the sweetest dogs will turn in this environment. If your pet makes it over all of those hurdles chances are it will get kennel cough or an upper respiratory infection and will be destroyed because the shelter gets paid a fee to euthanize each animal and making money is better than spending money to take this animal to the vet.

Here's a little euthanasia 101 for those of you that have never witnessed a perfectly healthy, scared animal being "put-down". First, your pet will be taken from its kennel on a leash. They always look like they think they are going for a walk happy, wagging their tails. Until they get to "The Room", every one of them freaks out and puts on the brakes when we get to the door. It must smell like death or they can feel the sad souls that are left in there, it's strange, but it happens with every one of them. Your dog or cat will be restrained, held down by 1 or 2 shelter workers depending on the size and how freaked out they are. Then a shelter worker who we call a euthanasia tech (not a vet) find a vein in the front leg and inject a lethal dose of the "pink stuff". Hopefully your pet doesn't panic from being restrained and jerk. I've seen the needles tear out of a leg and been covered with the resulting blood and been deafened by the yelps and screams. They all don't just "go to sleep", sometimes they spasm for a while, gasp for air and defecate on themselves. You see shelters are trying to make money to pay employee pay checks and don’t forget the board of directors needs to be paid too, so we don’t spend our funds to tranquilize the animal before injecting them with the lethal drug, we just put the burning lethal drug in the vein and let them suffer until dead. If it were not a “making money issue” and we had to have a licensed vet do this procedure, the animal would be sedated or tranquilized and then euthanized, but to do this procedure correctly would cost more money so we do not follow what is right for the animal, we just follow what is the fastest way we can make a dollar. Shelters do not have to have a vet perform their euthanasia’s so even if it takes our employee 50 pokes with a needle and 3 hours to get the vein that is what we do. Making money is the issue here not loosing money.

When it all ends, your pets corpse will be stacked like firewood in a large freezer in the back with all of the other animals that were killed waiting to be picked up like garbage. What happens next? Cremated? Taken to the dump? Rendered into pet food? Or used for the schools to dissect and experiment on? You'll never know and it probably won't even cross your mind. It was just an animal and you can always buy another one, right!

I hope that those of you who still have a beating heart and have read this are bawling your eyes out and can't get the pictures out of your head, I deal with this everyday. I hate my job, I hate that it exists & I hate that it will always be there unless you people make some changes and start educating the public. Do research, do your homework, and know exactly what you are getting into before getting a pet. These shelters and humane societies exist because people just do not care about animals anymore. Animals were not intended to be disposable but somehow that is what they are these days. Animal shelters are an easy way out when you get tired of your dog (or cat), and breeders are the ones blamed for this. Animal shelters and rescue organizations are making a hefty profit by keeping this misconception going.

Between 9 and 11 MILLION animals die every year in shelters and only you can stop it. I just hope I maybe changed one persons mind about taking their dog to a shelter, a humane society, or buying a dog. For those of you that care--- please let's see if we can get this all around the US and have an impact.

Please stop BREEDING for profit, you are distroying BREEDS and making mutts and contributing to the MILLIONS of animals killed each year
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04-04-2010 , 08:35 PM
I like the comments like "well duh, the dog was agitated by the fighting". Yeah our collie used to rip my face off all the time when my parents fought. They blamed themselves and we all had a good laugh.
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04-04-2010 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Btw I had a pit lunge at me walking the other day. It was obviously very young and clueless, but also one of the bigger ones I've seen. Gigantic head.

What scared me is the owner, a woman, didn't really correct it much. She just kind of gently pulled him back and said "Oh come on, really?" to the dog. Um, I don't think dogs are too good with sarcasm lady. Yay another giant pit who is going to grow up thinking it's the alpha dog.
My sister-in-law rescues dogs, mostly pits (though now she has a Presa Canario), and we went camping with her and her big pit/lab mix. It lunged at another dog like it wanted to eat it and she gently grabbed the dog and in a babyish voice said something like "don't be such a bad dog." I'm pretty sure her actions were interpreted by the dog as praise.
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04-04-2010 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SoSaucy
Please stop BREEDING for profit, you are distroying BREEDS
???? Who cares ?????

Btw, ship me a puppy- not a fighting breed - mutt preferred.
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04-09-2010 , 01:52 PM
http://cbs2.com/local/infant.attacke...2.1619910.html

MURRIETA, Calif. (CBS) ―

Two large dogs have chewed off the testicles of a 6-month-old boy strapped in a baby carrier and left alone in a Riverside County apartment.

Murrieta police say the 22-year-old mother Carrie McKinney had left the baby in a car seat on the floor in her boyfriend's apartment on Saturday. Sgt. Bob Landwehr says the woman and her boyfriend, Doug Ritchey, left the room when pit bull and pit bull mix attacked the baby, tearing off the infant's diaper and biting his scrotum.

The baby was taken first to a hospital, then to Loma Linda University Medical Center for surgery, Murrieta police Sgt. James Ganley said. The boy lost his testicles.

McKinney has temporarily lost custody of the infant and could potentially face criminal neglect charges, Ganley said.

Child Protective Services took the baby from the mother. The dogs will be euthanized.
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04-09-2010 , 01:58 PM
Leave it to FrankieBigNuts to post that.


That's just rubbing it in.
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