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Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed? Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed?
View Poll Results: Should pitbulls be allowed to breed
Yes
391 46.94%
No
289 34.69%
Yes but only if you have to have a special license to own one
153 18.37%

01-23-2017 , 04:33 PM
My favorite part of that article is her telling the cops at the hospital that little Aries had never been to a vet in his life, at which point they seemed to just go get the dog and destroy it har.
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01-23-2017 , 04:34 PM
It's not his fault. Cats just make him crazy sometimes. You don't see the tender moments.
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01-23-2017 , 04:45 PM
geriatric kitty going out like that is easily saddest part of tale.
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01-23-2017 , 04:57 PM
He shouldn't have been so stimulating.
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01-23-2017 , 07:23 PM
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'Surprisingly, it didn't hurt at first, because of the adrenalin, but I could hear him biting through the bone.

'It sounded like crunching and I knew it was bad, everything happened so fast - it burned for a split second, but I couldn't feel it after that because I was in shock.'
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'I was looking for a family with no kids or other dogs because I wanted him to be the focus.'
i.e. you knew he was gonna kill another dog or child and you didn't want it to be your fault. I feel bad for the prospective owner, who was probably a nice person that wanted to help out a dog in need. He got his cat traumatically murdered in front of his face, blood all over his house, and had to lock the hell-beast inside his home to escape and take someone to the hospital. Probably should sterilize him, just to be sure.
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01-23-2017 , 07:30 PM
Also, inaccurate comment: "Every says their pit bull is just a big sweetheart until it snaps and kills something".

Actually, they continue to say their pit bull is a big sweetheart after it snaps and kills something.

I mean, "it's not his fault, he's not used to cats" is friggin awful excuse. Dogs that react to unfamiliar things by viciously attacking them are not the kind of dogs that should be allowed to live in human communities.
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01-23-2017 , 07:42 PM
I've seen a bunch of breeds get worked up and chase after squirrels and cats, but only a handful tear a hand apart.
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01-23-2017 , 07:46 PM
This dog had never been to a vet?

Why?

Because they knew it would kill something.
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01-23-2017 , 08:34 PM
I can't believe all the hate for pits here. I guess I've been lucky but there have never been any vicious pit bull maulings around where I live and my co worker has an awesome pit that is so friendly and chill. I feel it's all in how the dog was raised.

Do you guys all hate German Shepard dogs as well?
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01-23-2017 , 08:35 PM
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I mean, "it's not his fault, he's not used to cats" is friggin awful excuse.
It's in the hall of fame, up there with "it wasn't the dog's fault, my friend shouldn't have looked him in the eye while the dog was eating".
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01-23-2017 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
I can't believe all the hate for pits here. I guess I've been lucky but there have never been any vicious pit bull maulings around where I live and my co worker has an awesome pit that is so friendly and chill. I feel it's all in how the dog was raised.

Do you guys all hate German Shepard dogs as well?
I don't see any good reason to buy a german shepard, but they're not nearly as prone to killing cats and toddlers.
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01-23-2017 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by problemeliminator
It's in the hall of fame, up there with "it wasn't the dog's fault, my friend shouldn't have looked him in the eye while the dog was eating".
This one is the Deansteak of this thread, literally can't be topped.
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01-23-2017 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
I feel it's all in how the dog was raised.
This is probably mostly true for pits that have been under a good owner from very early on, but obviously you can't really know this for rescue pits and such. Moreover though, IMO most pits haven't been particularly well raised anyway and for most of them it's basically luck whether they snap/bite - they're a ticking time bomb. For instance....

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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
I mean, "it's not his fault, he's not used to cats" is friggin awful excuse.
This is probably the cause of a lot of incidents. Owners should spend the first 4-6 months socialising their dog heavily - introducing them to humans of all different ages/shape/colour/whatever, maybe get them to feed the dog treats. Same with other dogs. Manhandling while using positive reinforcement, maybe from other people too, and particularly different types of children that may put the dog to the test later. If you haven't covered these bases and more, the dog may be anxious in certain situation and their fight or flight reaction will trigger. A lot of the dogs that go a lifetime without attacking got pretty lucky to not run into one of these triggers. As always, with most dogs this won't matter much, with pits (and others) it will, to varying degrees.

Basically, even the owners that most people think are good are probably pretty average, and it takes a very good dog owner to raise a dog that's confident and non-aggressive in all the right situations. The two pits I live with haven't ever harmed a soul (and probably never will), but one of them is a liability and all it would take is the right circumstance for **** to go down. I used to walk her off the leash sometimes since she's very obedient, then one day I was blindsided by a dog that came up right behind her and started barking - from her reaction I'm guessing that if she wasn't leashed she may have attacked, and it wouldn't have been pretty. Most people would say my housemates are good owners, but they haven't raised a dog that's safe.
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01-23-2017 , 09:33 PM
I'm afraid I don't know what that is and google isn't very helpful.
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01-23-2017 , 09:38 PM
Yeah urban dictionary didn't help
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01-23-2017 , 09:43 PM
I think it's about that 'cooking a good steak' thread.
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01-23-2017 , 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
I can't believe all the hate for pits here. I guess I've been lucky but there have never been any vicious pit bull maulings around where I live and my co worker has an awesome pit that is so friendly and chill. I feel it's all in how the dog was raised.

Do you guys all hate German Shepard dogs as well?
German Shepherds have value to society that you can't get with a replacement dog. Pits do not.
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01-23-2017 , 10:22 PM
But my pit is good! If it's this hard to explain "win a bunch of little pots but lose a big one" on a poker forum - imagine how hard it is in the rest of the world.
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01-23-2017 , 10:40 PM
Meanwhile another toddler is without his face. At least this one is being put down after the pitt ban went into effect in Montreal last year.

http://www.lifeinquebec.com/verdun-p...ung-boy-13452/

In french but more detail

http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2016/12/2...-montrealais-1
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01-23-2017 , 10:47 PM
Pit ban? I've been informed that identifying pits is impossible.
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01-23-2017 , 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokeyJ
The two pits I live with haven't ever harmed a soul (and probably never will), but one of them is a liability and all it would take is the right circumstance for **** to go down. I used to walk her off the leash sometimes since she's very obedient, then one day I was blindsided by a dog that came up right behind her and started barking - from her reaction I'm guessing that if she wasn't leashed she may have attacked, and it wouldn't have been pretty. Most people would say my housemates are good owners, but they haven't raised a dog that's safe.
NO SMOKEY!
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01-23-2017 , 11:19 PM
German Shepherds bark and act aggressive if they are aggressive and often even if they don't bite.

One of the big problems with pits is that they don't act aggressively, but just go haywire. That and the biting to kill kind of thing that happens with dogs bred to kill dogs and fight bears and bulls as opposed to herding sheep.
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01-23-2017 , 11:22 PM
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NO SMOKEY!
Yeah. Those days are past. Never walk your dog off leash. For one thing it might go up to someone else who has their not so friendly dog on a leash and the person with the leashed dog can't keep the dogs apart.
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01-23-2017 , 11:44 PM
And it makes you a dip****.
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01-23-2017 , 11:49 PM
Itz,

We've got two German Shepherds. They're smart and loyal and friendly. Either one will let me take a bone from their mouth, which I've made it a point to do since both were young. We made sure that both were socialized with both dogs and humans from the time they were eight weeks old, and we totally trust both of them without reservation.

The only time they go nuts is when one of us is hitting the punching bag in the basement: if they're near, they quite literally try to destroy the thing. They snarl and growl and bite it. As soon as we quit hitting it, they calm down again. My only real issue with them is that they've absolutely shredded our lawn, which is now 95% mud.

Both are big and strong and toothy, and are no doubt scary to those among us who aren't familiar with big dogs. They're also smart and can and do learn instruction on few repetitions. All that said, I won't walk them off-leash here in suburbia.

In contrast, I wouldn't ever have a pit.
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