Last month I became eligible for Medicare so I've been around for a while. And it seems like the kinds of people mentioned in the subject line is & has been growing exponentially for quite some time now. It's just mind boggling how many people are the above. I'm sure everybody has a story of running into these Vultures.

Some low hanging fruit.

Trump
T.V. preachers that just demand, ask, cajole, etc. for Money
Payday Loans - they charge a lot more vig than the mob ever has
Title Loans - " " " " "
The Nigerian Prince

Dentists - a dignified profession, right? I lost all my lower teeth. I had an oral surgeon install 4 implants into my lower mandible/gums - so after the implant posts take hold in the bone - you then go to a dentist. The dentist takes some measurements - and has you bite down on some goo he puts in your mouth which ends up being a mold.

On one of my dental visits - another guy came who had a local lab where he makes your lower dentures from these measurements. And my denture will have 4 "holes" in it - so when I put it in - they hold it in place by snapping around the implants.

This is far superior to regular dentures - because u don't have to use any denture glue products like Poligrip. Once u snap them in - u can't even tell the difference between your original teeth and the denture supported by the implants. U can wear them 24/7 if u want to. But obviously u will take them out once a day to clean them & some people take them out when they sleep.

OK - so a few years go by & one day the denture goes missing (this is already long enuf & that explanation would just make it longer). Now I had saved the business card of the guy who had the lab close by & made the denture. So I called him the next day and told him I would like him to make me another denture exactly like the last one.

He still had everything he needed to make an identical one. And he told me he couldn't do it. I asked him why - I just wanted the same thing. He told me it was against the law!! I said - you must be kidding - you have what you need to make another one just like the first, right? And he said he did.

So again - I say, well whats the problem? He says I have to go back to the dentist who made the measurements (or some other dentist 1st) - that was the law. So the bottom line was - the dentist wanted to get as much $$ out of me as he possibly could. And some dental association like - "Protecting the Rights of Dental Patients" probably hired a good lobbying firm to bribe our easily bribable local or National government officials for that law.

I called a couple of other dentists at random and they also said it was the law. WHAT A JOKE. The dentist who I saw that took the measurements also had some very unethical things he was doing & I would never have seen that guy again except to ask him "IS IT SAFE" (older folks here will get that quote").

So I'll bet this crowd has some good stories. Lets hear em.

Hating dentists is one you don't hear everyday.

Whenever I have a full physical exam, I just tell my PCP to use the lab results from when I was 23.

Comcast? U.S. Bank...Dont ask.

Resort fees. And then to pay daily parking on top of that...

HOA fees

Very sorry to hear this. When did you last have them? Have you tried retracing your steps?

If we're going to complain about dentists then it really needs to be the entire medical industry in the US.

Hospitals charging more than $100 to administer ibuprofen, $2000 to ride 5 miles in an ambulance driven by a guy who makes $15 an hour. Either they're all scamming us in some way or another, or it's just the way it is.

I am crafting a bit about a guy who was traveling overseas. He got bit by something with rabies. The fix for rabies is 3 shots spread out over a year. He got the first one in asia it was 94 bucks. He got the second one in south america it was 137 bucks. He got the last one in the states its was 5600 dollars. I said I was going to stop posting too. Conned you donkeys super fast.

Dentist here. Were you expecting the dentist / lab to make another denture for free? Or were they charging full price? Or charging the lab cost?

The office I'm at doesn't take medicaid so I'm not familiar with how they work, but it would usually be at the discretion of the dentist (with insurance) what to charge for a lost denture, but it's gotta be at least the lab fee.

Depending on where you are and what type of denture, the lab charges dentists at least 300 dollars for one arch just to make one.

Obviously he expected the guy to make him a new set and charge him whatever it costs. He doesn't see the need to go see the dentist again because... Why the hell should he need to see the dentist again? He's saying its BS that they made a law so the dentist could get more money from him for no good reason other than "it's the law".

i got scammed by a wendys driving out of orlando last weekend

ordered a spicy chicken combo and another burger combo. they asked "what size" so I just say "regular". then they ask if I wanted tea since it was served at the counter and not the fountain, I say yes

turns out "regular" was an up-charge size and there was a 85 cent tea charge like they are the ****ing east india company. somehow my bill was 20 bucks

1. a dental lab cannot do work for a patient without a lab slip, which is a prescription, from a dentist. sort of like if you need amoxicillin you can't just call the pharmacist and say i have the same illness i just need the same thing. you need the doctor to prescribe the medicine again.

2. i don't understand how its possible for the lab to have what they'd need to make the denture again. the tissue facing side of the denture is created on a model, and the model is destroyed when the denture is created. the location of the teeth is determined with a try-in by the dentist and there is no record of where the teeth were or belong as the position of them never existed in anything but the final denture.

Orlando tax.

Standard.

agreed. doubt a medicaid office has the technology but theres a slight chance the lab and office have 3d imaging is getting and the lab would have the patient and their tentative positioning of teeth on file even from a year ago.

suit, even if a patient could just go to a lab and get them to make a new denture, they'd still have to go to the dentist for adjustments. there's a lot of work after the denture comes back from the lab that need to be made to get your bite right and to make the patient happy about their investment

i know dentists get a bad rap, (and in many cases rightfully so), but as with any profession, your time is valuable. poker players are doing everything they can do maximize their ROI or hourly, so take that mentality and try to look at the situation from a business owner's point of view. it costs a lot of money to run an office. by only charging the lab fee, it seems like you're doing free work, but theoretically, you're losing money (money youre paying the assistants, materials for impressions or instruments, and opportunity cost of doing "free work" when you could be seeing other patients). that being said, for patients i like, as a gesture of goodwill, i will only charge the lab fee, but i wouldnt call dentists a scammer for charging more than the lab fee due to the reasons above.

yes it's possible, probably dumb on my part to say that, if the lab guy told him that then it almost certainly was cad/cam, i just never hear of anyone using that for dentures. but we use a small local lab for that stuff, maybe glidewell scans everything these days.

well at the very least, he'd need to see a dentist to have new locators put in the denture.

With NFL season starting, in Canada last year NFL outsourced sunday ticket to some company no one ever heard of called DAZN. They provided ok enough service, but like many online subscription sources (who are also all scammers) enabled auto renew by default, even though they no longer have NFL ticket. Got luck that a friend had his on first and complained about it which gave me time to cancel well in advance. Auto renew for stuff like that is the lowest form of grift.

McDonalds app lets you get $1 Big Mac every day and free medium fries every friday. If the Seattle Sounders score a goal its a free breakfast sandwich with any purchase. I will never spend a cent there unless its part of a coupon deal. Only thing I ever buy is $1 mcchicken to trigger the SMc w/ egg. Also get a free water every time and might have a little taste of soda when no one is looking.

I think this thread was supposed to be about businesses that fit the title.

You are looking for the stingy thread down the street.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...one-do-820936/

How has this thread avoided this?

If you dislike this system, you should definitely identify all the proper solutions and push for them at the ballot box. Because the system is complicated and there's no decent solution that will fit on a bumper sticker, neither Democratic solutions like "Medicare for All" nor Republican solutions like "Nobody thought healthcare could be so complicated. *shrug*"

The reality is that the exorbitant prices are a form of price discrimination. They will list $1,000 as the list price for a treatment, to catch those rich but uninsured people. They'll offer whatever discounts to the non-rich so they maximize their take (so if they think you can only pay $100, they'll eventually settle/write off 90% of the face value of your bill). They'll get stiffed by a certain number of people and they'll still treat the uninsured, and those costs get passed on to the people who do pay. Insurance companies will negotiate a "discount" as well and they price point will reflect their costs and payer pools.

It was Ronald Reagan who decided that poor people dying outside the ER was a dick move, so unless we consciously decide to go back to the days where they would check your wallet as you lay bleeding, any sort of rational proposal has to include some form of insured covering the uninsured.

People are poor savers and living longer, so healthcare spending overall is skyrocketing under any scenario (the recent price tag fiasco for Medicare For All shows just how ignorant people are of this problem - people were kicking and hollering about the $30 trillion price tag until they realized that under the current system that's actually less than what we're expecting to pay). Any health care plan is going to have to include the problem of making people healthier now so that they're not an expensive medical disaster in 30 years.

I think very few people are actually scamming the system. But the problem is caused by the intersection of greed and stupidity and ignorance. And the accusations that there is a simple fix just detract from the reality that this is a rat king sized problem with pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, lawyers, politicians, and human nature all knotted together.

When I was fresh out of college and looking for work I came across this scam that "marketing" companies run. Some fly by night company, making generic claims of "30k salary w/ unlimited commission potential working for our Fortune 500 clients, average first year 70-100k" or something to that effect. The funny thing is, I've been on about 6-7 of these "interviews" in my adult life in different parts of the country and everything about the interview was scripted word for word, down to the empty office setup with no other employees or furnishings in the office.. The pattern interrupts in the interview, the interviewer's initial generic spiel about the company down to the end where you're given your choice of "campaign" to work on...all the same, every time. It usually ends up being some form of Direct TV/Satellie, Home Security, or ISP affiliate.

They then offer you the position right away, no background check, no drug test, no verification of references and invite you back for an 8am "orientation". The orientation usually consists of meeting the other new hires that don't have a clue what they are there for and loading up into a Van/SUV and taken for a drive to a neighborhood where you start canvassing door-to-door attempting to hard sell products with a pitch that everyone is frantically practicing in the van in between stops to other neighborhoods. These "work days" are usually for 10-12 hours, oh yeah....no breaks, and by day 2 or 3 everyone quits or no call-no shows. Every now and then a few reps get a couple of sales and are pulled aside by the management with this spiel:

"You have something special. How would you like the opportunity to launch your own franchise and start making real money. You just need to borrow 15k from your bank, family and friends to start your own business. If they really support you, they will do it. We can also help you find creditors to lend you a line of business credit and you can make 500k your first year as a franchisee"

I never went through with the first day of training on any of these interviews, but I've worked with dozens of people in entry level sales & call center jobs that got suckered into the same scam. I'm sure the base of this scam is to get free labor out of as many bodies as you can and hope that they quit and never come back for their paycheck. Oh yeah, here's the best part.... Commissions are on a Net-60, so anything you sell in the current month is held counted at the end of the month, held for 30 days for "verification" and paid out at the end of the following month.

No one that I ever talked to about this scam made it the 90 days to see a "real check".

Barton Consulting Group is the name of one company that I know in Vegas that does this. They also have workers that canvas grocery stores in poor neighborhoods, selling prepaid phone services. There's a special place in hell for everyone associated with these companies that operate on this business model.

OP is an obvious anti-Dentite.

Here is an organization by which I feel scammed every month:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beitra...utschlandradio

It is a public organization that collects every month 18 Euro for public TV channels. As far as I know it exists only in Germany, but I haven't researched. Before 2013 you needed to pay only if you had a TV. Now everyone needs to pay. It is not much money. But I feel soooooooooooo scammed, considering that last time I watched public TV channel is more than 10 years in the past. I don't have a TV and plain don't think that this public channels are a good thing neither for me no for the public.