If you are having trouble limiting calories, here is a neat trick. Tie a bite of food to a string before you eat it. Then you can just pull it back out before it is digested. Repeat as needed.

Note that a soft fleshed fish like cod might fall apart with this method, however. Try it with something firmer like monkfish or maybe just a whole sprat.

The thread I referred to is not a blog and it’s full of links to evidence-flavored science-y stuff.

Trolly,

I mostly have convenient access to lake perch, trout and walleye. How much of each should I consume?

There are multiple high content threads for discussion, plus a lot of discussion about a topic du jour begins and continues in someone's log.

All this thread is missing now is: Vegetarian Diets and Weight Reduction: a Meta-Analysis of Randomized Controlled Trials.

High Vegetable Fats Intake Is Associated with High Resting Energy Expenditure in Vegetarians

Beginners should just focus on eating as much as you can without getting too hung up on numbers. You are going to find that you can eat more each day then the previous and this should go on for some time. Eventually, you will hit a plateau and that is when you should consider a more structured program.

The **** is the diff between carbs and calories? Why are carbs a huge deal? I still feel tracking calories is more important than carbs

Lol former All Pro NFL player sees results with keto HOLY **** SIGN ME UP

Al Bundy Diet ITT

Insulin

Lol

What about artificial sweeteners

I've heard you gain more weight from diet soda than regular but i don't believe that

It's that the sweetnesst makes your body think it's s getting sugar even though you're not, so your body is triggered into releasing insulin, and when it is in this mode, it does not burn fat. It's the basic idea behind the whole doing low carbs/ketosis/intermittent fasting thing.

As a side, aspartame has all kinds of other health issues like raising the risk of certain cancers.

It's been super tough for me to cut down on. I don't drink much soda but I do drink about 4 servings (20 calories worth) of Crystal Lite every day, although I do dilute it. 4 servings is supposed to be for about 32 ounces of water, but I make it last for 120 ounces. I've been trying to find out just how much aspartame it contains so I can compare it to something like a Diet Coke, but no luck.

Edit: just did some research and found that a safe daily amount of aspartame is 3500mg. And considering a Diet Coke has only 200mg, Crystal Lite is probably fine.

LOLOL, I have the same reaction, I love the way donuts taste but I cant think of another food that makes me feel worse after eating. Its a blessing in disguise because otherwise I'd probably binge the hell out of them if given the chance.

Cookies, cakes and most other sweets don't make me feel bad, must be the frying of the dough or something

Same here. I do have to admit though that every time I'm grocery shopping in the bakery section, I fantasize about as soon as some apocalyptic event goes down, I'm booking it to the grocery store and I'm gonna go ****ing crazynuts on those 12 packs of glazed. And pretty much everything else in that section, obv.

they claim to be zero calorie and therefore can't add weight but from my experience, I've noticed I always put on weight when I start drinking lots of diet cokes and I think its because my tastebuds start craving more intensely flavored foods or perhaps there's something in those drinks that induces cravings or maybe I'm nuts and there's no correlation at all

LOL, I feel ya

i undersatnd now thanks. however, that professor went on that twinkie diet ADN STILL lost weight

thats why im a big believer in calories in and out but thats good info

^ that dude is a chiropractor.

What's your point? Most Drs are absolutely clueless about nutrition. Over 50% of American adults have prediabetes or worse and the Drs are powerless to do anything about it because of Thier lack of understanding. They do what the drug companies tell them only, which is prescribe drugs that do nothing but prolong the situation and make it incredibly worse. It's a **** show.

My point is some chiropractor telling fat people what they want to hear so he can have a thriving youtube channel is far less reliable than a guy with a PhD in nutritional science. The issue of obesity and how the medical community treats it is a separate issue completely.

The "debate" is whether calories are king or some other stuff like low carb with unrestricted calories causes fat loss. You don't need to listen to a nutritional scientist - the simple test is to eat 5000 calories each day for a month in ketosis. Now eat 1000 calories each day for a month of high-carb ****ty foods. Note the weight change differences.

Whether one uses keto, IF, etc., as a conduit to eat less food (whether they recognize it or not) is secondary - the primary thing is they're eating fewer calories. Hormones etc., play a role, but I've asked for people to quantify just how much a role, and I don't get an answer. I get told that it's easier to cut out refined foods and sugars out of a diet than count calories. That's not very scientific.

OK Jason Fung has a PHD and is an expert in the field of obesity, now what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d7KkyXnyB4

It isn't just him. Literally everyone who has done serious research in this field in the last 10 years says that the source/type of calories matters and affects weight changes differently. Glycemic load matters. Hormones matter. Insulin trends matter. A1C matters (a lot). Paying attention to them makes long term success much more likely than just counting calories, and for many people that's the only way they will ever have success.

Watch his 2nd video after the one linked, which is 36 minutes of information about why most methods, particularly "eat less move more", fail long term.

I don't really understand why people are so insistent on oversimplifiying how this works ("CICO") when we just know better. All the scientists in the field know better and have for years. I think a lot of it is just rationalization to support cravings for what people like. Just realize that those cravings and preferences are not always "willful" but are affected by gut biota and hormones telling you that you like bad food.