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12-11-2013 , 04:24 AM
He meant the shoes.

The better question is how much of your parents money did you gamble away before you ran up that "roll".

Also your net worth doesnt change when you sell something for what it's worth.

Last edited by Rusemandingo; 12-11-2013 at 04:31 AM. Reason: lol just saw that hh
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12-11-2013 , 04:31 AM
Oh, no. The $2.5k from last year was donkament binkage and more live cash. Vegas is pretty insane. Hence me wanting to drive out to PS instead of playing in LA. (PS play mirrors Vegas more closely than LA)

Right, spendable $. Whatever.

I realize that most people talking crap itt are probably commenting from their mother's basement. Ideally, I'm trying to not be like one of those people in the future. I still have school and whatnot. This isn't a busto or robusto situation for me, fortunately.
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12-11-2013 , 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TensRUs
I think from now on, every 5 posts itt I'm going to say that I intend on going the "sleep in my car" route
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12-11-2013 , 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo

The better question is how much of your parents money did you gamble away before you ran up that "roll".
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Originally Posted by TensRUs
Oh, no. The $2.5k from last year was donkament binkage and more live cash.
How much of your parents money did you gamble away before you ran up that "roll"?
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12-11-2013 , 05:11 AM
Not much, considering my luckbox'ed results now
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12-11-2013 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by TensRUs
Do you guys really think it's safe to sleep in a parking lot full of other people that live in their cars (Walmart) ?

Idk
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12-11-2013 , 07:10 AM
So much derail in the thread ... TL:dr more than page 1 and page 5...

Play wherever you want, where you feel you have the biggest edge, the most comfortable, the most profitable, the most to learn, whatever.. only you can decide. Most are going to go with most profitable. (those playing for a living)

I, too, would go for the couch over the car. Again though, it's a decision only you can make. There is plenty of advice ITT for things to watch out for. I'm not playing my A game if sleeping in a car (unless it's a Wookie sized HUMvee) or a truck with a nice mattress, but even then, depends on the weather.

re: $200/ month for sleeping on the couch, seems like you "could" find better, but might be worth the hassle. I would have negotiated for Month to Month or Week to Week on the couch, not letting her keep more than 1 month in advance. (unless you have a really good safe read on the situation, got your own key, etc...)

Boil it down to the bare essentials that matter :
Sleep vs Safety/peace of mind vs Cost.
Keep your eyes open, regardless of what you decide to do.
then just do it. You can always choose a different path later, if you aren't locked into a contract that doesn't suit you.

Stick to solid BRM and you should be able to build your roll on weekends. It's nice to have a hobby to look forward to on weekends when grinding through school, or even a 9 to 5.
Good Luck.
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12-11-2013 , 08:41 AM
OP,

Have you considered focusing on your sneaker business instead of the poker thing? Seems like you could still make your own hours, be your own boss, and have the flexibility to work only when you wanted to. All while having a source of income independent of your parents.
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12-11-2013 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by adsman
That hand looks like a fish calling down a fish.
That's b/c that's exactly what it was. wtf? How are people not talking more about how much OP sucks at poker? I at least thought you might be better than average, but after than hand you posted, it's quite clear you are going to be a break even player even at weak games. And I mean this with all sincerity: don't do this at all. You are certainly going to lose your money at your skill level and you are just going to compound that by adding expensive weekend trips to the equation. Don't do that to yourself. Honestly, the Bike 30bb buy-in game is probably ideal for you.
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12-11-2013 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TensRUs
Oh, no. The $2.5k from last year was donkament binkage and more live cash. Vegas is pretty insane. Hence me wanting to drive out to PS instead of playing in LA. (PS play mirrors Vegas more closely than LA)

Right, spendable $. Whatever.

I realize that most people talking crap itt are probably commenting from their mother's basement. Ideally, I'm trying to not be like one of those people in the future. I still have school and whatnot. This isn't a busto or robusto situation for me, fortunately.
LOL. my monthly nut is double your 'net worth'. wake up kid.
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12-11-2013 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TensRUs
I realize that most people talking crap itt are probably commenting from their mother's basement. Ideally, I'm trying to not be like one of those people in the future. I still have school and whatnot. This isn't a busto or robusto situation for me, fortunately.

Oh the irony!!!

I'm willing to bet that < 5 commenters ITT live in there parents basement.
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12-11-2013 , 11:26 AM
No better way to make sure you don't end up in your parents basement than to make below minimum wage in a 1/2 game hours from home while paying to sleep in someone else's basement.
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12-11-2013 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TensRUs
I realize that most people talking crap itt are probably commenting from their mother's basement. Ideally, I'm trying to not be like one of those people in the future.
Are you serious? You started a thread about renting a couch from some degenerate, and you're supported by your parents.

Given the economy and the fact that you're a college student I'm not judging you or anything. Nothing wrong if your parents want to help out and have the means to. Just a strange comment given that YOU are posting from your parents basement, figuratively if not literally.
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12-11-2013 , 12:22 PM
OP,
You are in a prime time of life - you are college with your parents' support. I'm a pretty happy guy right now, but I'd love to relive that time in my life.

You can choose among:
- Having fun/Doing things that you love, whether school-related or not
- Doing things that earn you money right now
- Doing things that might be costly right now, but build skills for the long run
- Working hard at school, effectively an investment for the long-run

and no one in this thread would judge you - all of these are good choices, and a mix of them would be awesome! The reason we are all lolling at you is that you seem dead-set on a plan that so clearly accomplishes none of these.
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12-11-2013 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spidercrab
- Working hard at school, effectively an investment for the long-run
I would say that depends on OPs major.

OP, what is your major??
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12-11-2013 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
I would say that depends on OPs major.

OP, what is your major??
Regardless of his major, investing his time and money in doing very well in school is by a wide margin the highest +EV play he can make right now.
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12-11-2013 , 12:58 PM
I would guess an associate's in marketing.

OP, I'm actually going to go against the grain here and tell you that I don't think this is that bad of an idea. I don't know what was going on in that A9 hand, but obviously, you've put a lot of thought into determining your optimal location to play, as well as how to squeeze out the highest hourly by keeping costs to a minimum, and that in itself shows a commitment to the game. I don't know why everyone in this thread is piling on so hard, nobody but you can tell you what's the best poker decision to make. If you've thought it out, I say go for it, whether it's car, couch, or boardwalk.

At this point, you owe it to your haters to keep this thread going. Think about how good it would feel to tell your parents you actually don't need any money this month, you've got your own.
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12-11-2013 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
If you feel compelled to do this, go do it. You'll regret it if you don't at this point.
This is a terrific point. All my current middle-aged regrets are about the things I chose to NOT do. Many of the things I chose to actually do turned out terribly, but I don't regret any of them.

...but then again, as I just now tried to think of something I've done that I regretted, the first thing that came to mind was that time I fell for a petty scam, ignoring the advice of friends and family to not do it. I was about your age at the time, and certain I knew better than everyone else who had already been down that road ahead of me.

Second paragraph trumps the first: don't do this Palm Springs thing. I know you want financial independence from your parents, so just keep this in mind: you've been dependent upon them your whole life, because that's what kids do. When you get out of school, you'll get a good job, and achieve that independence you desire. You're almost there now--the preschool years are behind you, the elementary and high school years are behind you, and you've only got a few more years of college to go. Ride it out. They've supported you this long, and it seems like they can easily afford it, so let them support you just a bit longer. Focus on your schooling, make THAT your road to the financial independence you seek.

Oh, and "jizz soaked couch".
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12-11-2013 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TensRUs
Do you guys really think it's safe to sleep in a parking lot full of other people that live in their cars (Walmart) ?

Idk
Sure it is. That's my preferred place to stay when I travel--especially when my family is with me. You'd be surprised just how hospitable the Mercedes/Lexus/Infiniti crowd that I find there can be. Some of the Super WalMarts even have a gated section for those of us with the nicer vehicles.
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12-11-2013 , 01:23 PM
Pro move would be to get an executive membership at Costco - it includes 24 hour access to parking lot, with restroom access and food samples.
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12-11-2013 , 01:29 PM
i say screw everyone here

GO FOR IT

no gamble, no future, baby
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12-11-2013 , 01:30 PM
ignore the 2p2 nits. ace high was the nuts. good call
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12-11-2013 , 01:33 PM
in case you dont believe im a good player, here are my la stats:

location: bicycle casino
game: $1-$2
buy-in: $40
cash-out:$84
hours played:0.25

as you can see, i average making $176 per hour. take my advice. dont listen to the hater$
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12-11-2013 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim14Qc
So are half your peers, get over it. Stop ruining their investment and enjoy college rather than being a ******. You're wasting some amazing times to stay inside with weird people in the hope to take a little bit of money from them (and they want yours, too). I wasted most of my college hours on online poker, but I at least had the shot at real money because it was boom times. You're talking about chucking away every weekend of your youth to go make $25/hour max, with 12 hours going wasted minimum on the logistics of getting there. It's ******ed. And it WILL dent your grades. WTF are you going to do during exam season?

When your parents find out, and they will, this will be the single biggest disappointment of their life. You're probably losing the Lexus. That's gotta be worth at least, like, 20 BI?



You'll make more money, with less variance and less working time, using that retail job. And you'll be able to actually sleep at night and go to parties. Drinking over a poker table with weirdos is not a college party. Go get laid.



Again, get a job. Or start selling weed again, whatever. That's also a bad idea, but not as bad.



You're not getting a free couch. Ain't happening. Just no.



This one isn't yours. Yet. And considering how lonely you will be over there, it will probably be jizzed out by your 2nd weekend at the latest. O/U at 2.5 nights stayed before you jizz it up.

Just don't do it. Get a job. Get good grades. Have a social life. Play poker for fun at the local game and enjoy the $5 lower EV. I know life seems tough and you're not popular and you think this will fix your problems. It won't. Get interesting hobbies instead of this ludicrous plan, go to the gym, talk to people at school and make friends. Don't do this. You will fail and your life will suck because of it.

Don't waste your youth on this idiot plan of yours. But you're a ****** and you're going to do it and we're all going to laugh. Your parents won't.
I was gonna make a snarky post but I'll refrain and just second this as some actual good advice.

I played a lot of poker while in college when the online poker climate was good. I could actually make some good money and without your elaborate plan. I still regret I didn't spend more time actually enjoying the student life and studying.

I'm sorry but this is a trainwreck in the making but given how adamant you seem to be to follow through I'm not sure if I should just look away.
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12-11-2013 , 02:35 PM
Tens,

In all seriousness, I'm a little surprised by all the people arguing so strongly against doing this. I am sure many of us in high school and college had much dumber get rich schemes than this. I don't really disagree with some of the logical criticisms of the plan in this thread, but I think a college kid taking a few weekend trips to play poker in Palm Springs is a totally fine adventure. Having said that, I think it'll be not nearly as fun as you think and you'll prob only stick it out a few weekends (ah, I'll skip just this one weekend because those cute girls are having a party, etc...) and in your spot I would def just take some shots in slightly bigger LA games instead. But whatever, ignore the haters and just give this a shot for as long as you're having fun.
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