Mobb Deep had a lot more then one good album, at least one classic and at least two other dope albums. Havoc, with help from RZA, changed what was the accepted New York sound from Jazz sample melodies (think: Premo or Pete Rock) to grimmy hardcore beats.

Mobb Deep has had huge influence on rap music, they just don't usually get credit for it (being ethered by Jay-Z and becoming G-unit flunkies certainly didn't help them).

99.99% of rappers are poor, boring lifenits

never heard anybody argue that the infamous isn't classic... are you serious?

shook ones pt 2 alone makes the album coppable.

pretty sick, I like this.

Basically if you have heard one Too Short CD, you've heard them all.

Ok so I shouldve qualified that. I personally like the album but it doesnt come to close to classic FOR ME. I know its always considered a classic, and Im not gonna argue vehemently against that as I think this ONE album is good.

Hell on Earth was ok but not great imo and then everything after that (especially anything recent which is god awful) was incredibly suspect.

I guess Im not saying their terrible. I just dont get how they are SO highly rated, but I guess Im real picky with what I like. From that kind gritty east coast style I much prefer Wu Tang and early Bone Thugs.

Also BIG THANK YOU to everyone who suggested the Grouch's **** the Dumb. Listened to it today and its truly awesome. Gonna check out some Tech N9ne as well on the recomendations, Ive only ever heard his verse on the anthem.

lol, coppable

Some recent CDs/Mixtapes I've heard that are worth downloading/buying

Lupe Fiasco- The Cool
Ghostface Killah- The Big Doe Rehab
Clipse/ Re-Up Gang- We Got it For Cheap Vol. 2 & 3
Kanye- Graduation: The Musical
Saigon- Return of the Yardfather
Talib Kweli- Get Familiar, The Talib Kweli Street Album

AC, I think Murda Music is Mobb Deep's best album.

I personally never liked it. Hey my dislike of them could be completely irrational and I could come around one day, as I said before I used to hate Jay-Z now I see how great he truly was/is (even if he bites just a lil bit too much).

FWIW, Havocs beats>>>>>Prodigy IMO. Although I wouldnt say hes on a par with the greats, hes a pretty solid beatmaker. In fact I think that if you replaced Prodigy with another MC that I would like the product much more. He just never really did much for me.

I didn't even know Prodigy made beats. And since I like Mobb Deep's beats, obviously its Havoc over P.

Sorry, I meant Havoc's Beats>>>>>Prodigys MCing.


Back to non Mobb Deep hip hop. I just realised that noone in this thread has mentioned BDP. Their first album and KRS's follow up are two awesome joints that everyone should hear. BDP, Road to the Riches and Long live the Kane are three of the best debuts Ive ever heard and all out the same era.

EDIT: I realise theyre the complete opposite of "new" which the thread is more about, but theres always the odd person who misses out on the true great old skool stuff.

nobody mentioned busdriver. fear of a black tangent owns.

People finally mentioned Jurassic 5, Aesop Rock, and Cunninglynguists... but seriously, pandora.com is the best way to be exposed to a broad range of artists in a particular style.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mjfc8AuVTys

dynospectrum FTW http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z43SmPpMVQc

RE: French HipHop.

Lunatic
IAM
NTM
Sniper
Le fONKY fAMILY

How is AZ not mentioned yet?

Also,

Lords of the Underground
Mannie Fresh
Roots Manuva
EPMD
The Lost Boyz

I have everything by him.. but I just can listen to it for like one or two months straight, then I have to give him a break,,,
for obv reasons

Another English hip hop fan here.

There's some good Bitish hip hop out there - DJ Format, Ty, Roots etc.

On the other side of the pond, I like Nas (Illmatic is still extraordinary after all this time), Blackalicious and Ugly Duckling amongst many others.

DJ Yoda makes some great mixtapes and these are pretty easily available on the net (try Pearson's Towers for some good mixtapes). His Esssential Mix one is particularly great. Also look out for DJ Magnet, DJ Soo, Dexter.

Solid Steel podcast has a decent hit rate and is worth subsribing too. If you don't mind funk and nu-jazz mixed up with your hip hop, Blackmarket funk also do a good podcast. The ney year's eve ones are especially great.

Only because it hasn't been mentioned yet, recently I've been greatly enjoying Turf Talk's West Coast Vaccine

Wow such a pleasure to listen to. Good rec.

LOL

And Megavali is great. Listen to Fallen Soldiers.

Phresh, I'd like to see a list of some recent cds to check out. If you don't mind taking the time, in between pimping your lawn and grilling steaks on the stove top, of course.

obviously, O.C. - Word...Life