i like immortal technique's lyrics and his anger when hes rapping, but does anyone else get pretty turned off by his extremists views and conspiracy theories??? i guess i should take it with a grain of salt but it seems like he wouldnt even want a white person like me listening to his rap lol. i wonder if he believes all the **** that he says...

also a decent beat would be nice plz, i cant even blame ppl for listening to trash on the radio sometimes when at least the beats/chorus is catchy, lyrically, alot of these rappers kill the well known guys but i mean **** the songs would be much better to listen to in my car or something if the beat/chorus didnt suck.

/end rant, also dont go hip hop snob on me

mutigers,

Try these

Z-Ro
K-Rino
old Paul Wall and Chamillionaire
Pharaohe Monch
Ray Cash
Saigon
Ya Boy
Haystack

just to name a few

mathematics - mos def
da graveyard - big L
the beast - talib kweli & papoose
my life - pharoah monch & styles p
i gave you power - nas

can't believe nobody has said the infamous BIG L (REST IN PEACE)...dangerzone and flamboyant are easily two of the best and most under-appreciated hip hop albums ever..also, give "Acid Raindrops" by People Under The Stairs a listen, great song. Actually, most of their albums are phenomenal. Some other suggestions I have were mostly covered, but for a short list of my favorites i'd say:

Andre Nickatina (Just started listening to him as I moved up to Northern California for University..he's huge up in the bay area...really fun lyrics and beats...but many people target him for being a super coke head, which is definitely evident given his lyrics)
A Tribe Called Quest
Mos Def
People Under the Stairs
Pharcyde
Method Man (All Wu-Tang for that matter)
Big L
Notorious BIG
Sage Francis (older stuff definitely not the newer album IMO)
Blue Scholars (fairly unheard of but very good lyrically)
Hieroglyphics (of course Del's solo stuff)
Aesop Rock
Celph Titled
Cannibal Ox
Cunning Linguists
Jedi Mind Tricks
Living Legends (older stuff like "never falling down" preferrably)
MF Doom
The Grouch ("Simple Man" is one of my favorite hip hop songs created in the recent years)

Oy vey, that list wasn't supposed to get out of hand. Well, I guess you got yourself a lot of good listening ahead of you..thats if you're still reading this thread

His albums are Lifestyles Uv Da Poor & Dangerous and The Big Picture.

yessir. just dl ebonics and da graveyard, foshio

<-- " Aiyyo spark up the phillies and pass the stout"

I went to Canada for the ski season a few years ago and saw this on BET on like my 2nd night there.

I'd never heard of him before (or since for that matter), but I ****in' love this tune. Video might not to everyones taste however.

Abstarct Rude - Stop Bitin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ4tiHLG5bw

Classic song.

"Makin quick money grip before your ass is out"

hahahahaha

I am pretty sure Big L has been mentioned in this thread somewhere before this dude botched it.

Some new albums I am checkin out...

A.B.N. - This Is What It Is
T.I. - Me Against The World (Mixtape)
Hell Rell - Top Gunna (Ruger Edition)
MJG - This Might Be The Day

oops, meant to say tracks...also meant to say tracks for the P.U.T.S. line right after, don't know why i used albums when describing songs

thats a mixtape (pretty good too), his album Black Mask, Black Gloves comes out next week

anyone here like dan the automator or deltron3030? they are my favorite and I wish dan the automator would come out with some more stuff. :/

yea i know just forgot to label it like that

the album is leaked somewhere i think.....i couldn't find it the other night though

the song "By Your Side" on there is super tight wow it's on youtube http://youtube.com/watch?v=4PmB0XtCPs0

nevermind, i just found it on my desktop hahaha

soakin it now

Ok so I love Hip-Hop and love underground but I need something explained to me.

Why does Immortal Technique get so much love? He makes less sense than Ghostface (GF is entertaining with his nonsensical **** at least), constantly goes on about conspiracy theories and in general seems the pioneer of "I'll us big words and random history references to make me sound smart, even if they have barely any relevance and make me sound like an idiot"

For me he gets so much love for these two tracks.

Dance with the Devil

You Never Know

A lot of his other stuff is meh, but I like his flow and he puts a lot into his work. He makes WAAAAAY more sense than Ghostface though.

yeah I like GFK but sadly this is true

I mean can anyone tell me wtf he is talking about in this verse?

Yo, check these up top murderous
Snowy in the bezzle as the cloud merges
F.B.I. try and want word with this
Kid who punked out bust a shot uip in the becon
Catch me in the corner not speakin
Crushed out heavenly, U.G. rock the sweet daddy long fox minks
Chicken and brocolli, Wally's look stinky
With his man straight from Raleigh Durham, he recognized Kojak
I slapped him five, Masta Killa cracked his tiny form
E'rybody break bread, huddle around
Guzzle that, I'm about to throw a hand in your bag
Since the face been revealed, game got real
Radio been gassin *****z, my imposters scream they ill
I'm the inventor, '86 rhymin at the center
Debut '93 LP told you to Enter
Punk ****** *****z stealin my light
Crawl up in the bed with grandma,
beneath the La-Z-Boy where ya hid ya knife
Ghost is back, stretch Cadillacs, fruit cocktails
Hit the shells at Paul's Pastry Rack
Walk with me like Darthy tried to judge these
plush degrees, said the cow, wrap the fees
Gettin waxed all through the drive-thru
Take the stand, throw my hand all on the Bible
and tell lies too, I'm the ultimate
splash the Wolverine Razor Sharp ring, dolomite
student in role holdin it

You try "White People" by Handsome Boy Modeling School? Not his best but might satisfy the thirst for a bit.

aside from Lil' Wayne and eminem, rap has been embarrassing post Chronic 2001.

Oh yeah... UGK is good.

lol you aren't trying

He could be taking pops at 50 cent I think.

Then again, it being GFK, he could be ordering chinese.

All I Got Is You by Ghostface is an awesome song. I imagine he has done a whole lot of drugs since then.