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08-02-2018 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 2/325Falcon
Also, it's August now and I will not have another bimonthly LC thread foisted upon us.
But I want more input on my stolen meds drama!
08-02-2018 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LFS
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I also failed to mention that the person who called last night claimed they're drug testing the whole staff. Yeah, right, to find traces of ADHD meds? I don't think so.
Probably just a straight up lie. Drug testing like that is against CA law, although maybe they don't know or care.
08-02-2018 , 02:02 PM
They claim they discovered the meds were missing during a routine count, which I also think is bull****. 400 campers there this week. How many on meds? 100? Yeah, right, they were just randomly counting thousands of pills just to make sure. BS.

Also, hi Nootka!
08-02-2018 , 02:11 PM
It definitely wasn't a random pill count.
They went to adminsiter one of the kid's meds and noticed that they weren't there, and then realized a bunch of other **** was missing too.
Also a small chance that they actually caught one of the staff members red handed on video surveillance, but of course they wouldn't mention that to you.
08-02-2018 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LFS
But I want more input on my stolen meds drama!
Preach! Having individual monthly threads dissuades people from posting interesting stories like this at the end of the month.
08-02-2018 , 02:20 PM
LFS,

NDA, blackmail, hush money business is shady imo. If you're pissed, make a stink to the closest thing to an adult at the camp and try to make sure they put together better procedures.
08-02-2018 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spidercrab
Preach! Having individual monthly threads dissuades people from posting interesting stories like this at the end of the month.
You can repost stuff in another thread if needed. Unless some of you are on a pay-per-post plan here.
08-02-2018 , 02:40 PM
Blackmail would be: "How much do you think your camp would be damaged by an article about what happened here?" I'm not doing that, I think we're owed some amount of a refund for sub-par performance. And if I were them I wouldn't give that to us without an NDA.
08-02-2018 , 02:44 PM
Not that I think you should go to this extreme, but I was hospitalized once and had painkillers I had just filled on me when I was admitted. When I was released, the painkillers had gone missing. I contacted someone at the DEA (not sure who or even how now, I think I filled out a form letter and filed a complaint) and the hospital "located" the missing pills and replaced them.
08-02-2018 , 03:06 PM
Oh man, I have an amazing story about being admitted to the hospital and having something go missing, but I am not going to post that **** until there is a new thread.

If I were a mod I would start the new thread and move all the posts from yesterday and today into it so the story stays intact.

I also would ban a lot of you.
08-02-2018 , 03:13 PM
Johnny for power tripping mod!
08-02-2018 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LFS
They claim they discovered the meds were missing during a routine count, which I also think is bull****. 400 campers there this week. How many on meds? 100? Yeah, right, they were just randomly counting thousands of pills just to make sure. BS.

Also, hi Nootka!
a quarter of kids are on prescription meds? good grief if true
08-02-2018 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LFS
Blackmail would be: "How much do you think your camp would be damaged by an article about what happened here?" I'm not doing that, I think we're owed some amount of a refund for sub-par performance. And if I were them I wouldn't give that to us without an NDA.
Partly I'm responding to other posts, like lapka's analysis of your EV, but you yourself questioned the amount of harm done to you. Are you looking for compensation for the hassle of meeting someone from camp and dealing with the emails or w/e? Would you look for compensation if your kid was not involved at all?

I don't really think you're entitled to anything beyond compensation for your inconvenience here. As far as motivating them to improve, I think a constructive approach of getting involved enough to see they react appropriately to protect kids in the future is at least moderately superior ethically to seeking compensation for something more than your actual costs either as a matter of punishment or some sense of this event making the camp generally inferior and worth less money. I don't mean this as an absolute rule irrespective of their failure. If the criminal syndicate is an organization of 17 year old counselors this is not the biggest surprise in the world and I think working with the camp is fine. If the camp is actually a front for organized crime getting kids hooked on speed and moved into human trafficking, then **** them every way possible.

Doing nothing or just writing a nasty email is ok too imo.

Eff the NDA and all that lawyering though. I wouldn't go around badmouthing the camp everywhere, but I wouldn't sign that unless they really paid me off good.
08-02-2018 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
a quarter of kids are on prescription meds? good grief if true
USA#1


I wonder what exactly would all parents here consider to be an appropriate reaction from camp?

I tried to extract that somehow from all posts above and somehow failed.
08-02-2018 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Would you look for compensation if your kid was not involved at all?
That's an interesting question. If I heard about this happening to another kid at the camp I doubt I'd think I was entitled to a refund. But I'd question whether I would return to the camp for sure.

The guy from the camp just came to my office to get the replacement pills. He was a full-on adult, which I was not expecting. He is the director of their medical center, and is licensed to dispense medication. Seemed to be taking this very seriously and legit seemed pretty upset - says that only a handful of people have access to the meds, and he knows them all personally, so it's a big deal to him as well.

I told him I want to hear from the director of the camp, we'll see what happens then.
08-02-2018 , 04:23 PM
West Coast USA#1 Peeps,

How do you get used to sporting events starting at the wrong times?
08-02-2018 , 04:30 PM
Camp counselors do drugs, story at 11!


Ok LFS I'll bite: How much is super expensive? 5K?


Also, we're not doing this two month lc thread bs again. I'm busy now, but that ish *will* be changing.
08-02-2018 , 04:31 PM
Theres no wrong time when you aint got **** to do.
08-02-2018 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
West Coast USA#1 Peeps,

How do you get used to sporting events starting at the wrong times?
There is no wrong time when you aint got **** to do.
08-02-2018 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 27offsuit

Ok LFS I'll bite: How much is super expensive? 5K?
My wife booked the camp because my daughter was begging because her friend was going. She told me it was expensive, and she probably told me how much, but I had no frame of reference and was definitely not listening. Just glad my wife was dealing with it. So everybody can save giving me **** about it. It's around $2K/week.

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Originally Posted by 27offsuit

Also, we're not doing this two month lc thread bs again. I'm busy now, but that ish *will* be changing.
I already did it!
08-02-2018 , 04:39 PM
Incorrect.
08-02-2018 , 05:07 PM
I would want to speak to the camp director, and if I felt they were being upfront and honest about everything I'd probably go with this
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Originally Posted by LFS
Part of me wants to shrug and say "**** happens". Because somebody is coming into LA tomorrow my daughter won't even know it happened.
But if I thought they were feeding me some BS story (like you seem to), then I would probably go with
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Originally Posted by LFS
The other part of me wants to tear somebody a new ******* and demand some restitution. A few pills going missing is one thing (although it's going to mess up insurance/refills because we'll need to refill sooner than prescribed), but I feel like this calls their entire standard of care into question. Not only are they not controlling access to meds, which is messed up, but now I know that some of the staffers/counselors responsible for all these kids are doing their job high. Maybe that should go without saying with summer camp counselors though?
08-02-2018 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LFS
They claim they discovered the meds were missing during a routine count, which I also think is bull****. 400 campers there this week. How many on meds? 100? Yeah, right, they were just randomly counting thousands of pills just to make sure. BS.

Also, hi Nootka!
Hey LFS!
08-02-2018 , 05:57 PM
god damn crypto markets have me brokeski and wiggas be spending 2k a week on druggie babysitting god damn.
08-02-2018 , 06:36 PM
DZ,

Lol at still being in on crypto

      
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