I’m seeing very little dick confidence here...

Exactly.

That was my first omg live moment, started my love affair with basketball.

I remember watching that past 10p as a teen. (Kidd with the inbounds.)

I pretty much wanted to IRL unfriend one of my best friends, a purported fellow Sonics fan, who was openly celebrating that shot because of how awesome it was. **** that ****.

TV broadcasts constantly cutting away to show KJ's mom celebrating. Series was super annoying even though the good guys won in the end.

What's going on there?

This made me laugh so hard

My daughter is at what I would call a fancy sleepover camp this week. I call it fancy because it's crazy expensive. Anyway, they called us at 9:30PM last night because her ADHD meds are missing. For the non-pillheads among us: ADHD meds are basically amphetamines, so some people take them recreationally. The camp couldn't really explain what happened, but were quite sure that a camp staff member stole them, despite what they claim are strict security measures.

The camp is about 90 minutes outside of Los Angeles. They are sending a staff member into LA tomorrow to meet me and get replacement meds. They say one other child had meds stolen as well, so they'll be meeting up with that family as well.

Part of me wants to shrug and say "**** happens". Because somebody is coming into LA tomorrow my daughter won't even know it happened. The other part of me wants to tear somebody a new ******* and demand some restitution. A few pills going missing is one thing (although it's going to mess up insurance/refills because we'll need to refill sooner than prescribed), but I feel like this calls their entire standard of care into question. Not only are they not controlling access to meds, which is messed up, but now I know that some of the staffers/counselors responsible for all these kids are doing their job high. Maybe that should go without saying with summer camp counselors though?

So much drama in the LFS. Interested in your thoughts on the above!

Stop payment on the check obv

if that happened to me I'd honestly lose my **** (at least for the first time, maybe not now cause LFS kinda warned me about this stuff. instead I just might have a long conversation with whoever is running this wild place prior to booking my child)

if it happens again at a different summer camp I'd probably just shrug and lol summer camps, gotta lose those meds

lol I just read that thread

The thought that I feel like makes me a jerk is this: I don't really feel that damaged by this incident. But these people really cannot have us going around telling everyone this happened. It's a huge huge camp and IMO this is a pretty big breach of responsibility. Whether or not I or they believe I "deserve" restitution, there's very little question in my mind that they'll have to pony up if I push the issue.

We need a full independent investigation. This could just be the very tip of an international drug trafficking ring that relies on stealing children’s medications and selling them on the black market to EDM festival goers and the like.

Demand reimbursement of all investigative cost, your child’s camp cost and a few thousand bucks for the emotional distress this has caused you.

Who knows how hyperactive this child could become in the interim

I would demand a restitution because you would definitely get something and why just give-up some +EV.

But I would at the same time keep it very real in your head. I mean .... A HUGE number of people do take pills they shouldn't take. You know that pretty well. You can still deal with them pretty normal. I mean..... to expect a perfectly screened from a RL world environment is not smart.

Natamus has a point. If the other kid whose meds were stolen is in a different cabin from your daughter, it would indicate an organized effort. The camp is incentivized to not file a police report against its own staff right?

Go with your first instinct. **** happens. Hopefully the thief gets what they have coming. No point in making yourself and the innocent people miserable.

I'm assuming the camp's medical staff has possession of all the kid's meds and distributes them to the kids as needed? The kids don't keep their pills in their bag or anything like that, right?

If that's the case, absolutely demand some form of reimbursement.

IDK. I’m not as concerned with drug use or swiping pills as I am with the desire the camp itself seems to have to limit the damage by not reporting it. I guess on one hand they told the parents right away, but they don’t really have a choice. If they got the pills back and didn’t need to replace them would they have let you know? Probably not.

There are worse things imaginable that could take place at a camp they could cover up to protect their rep and that is the part that would concern me based on their response to this.

I'd probably tell them that you're willing to sign a NDA if they refund your fees and give you free camp going forward. They'll likely balk, but it's a start.

Edit to add: if you're truly worried about whether the camp is capable of keeping the campers--including your children--safe, then demand a full refund, take the kids out of camp, and alert the authorities and the local news. But it doesn't sound like that's your main concern here.

How do you know they didn't report it?

Assuming based on that not being included in the story and that a police report would likely preclude using future refills to replace the missing pills. Could be wrong tho.

I can't believe summer camp counselors, a group of transient part time employees we all hold in such high regard, could stoop to such behavior. The movie Meatballs is now ruined for me.

Also, it's August now and I will not have another bimonthly LC thread foisted upon us.

Correct. Pills are in a centralized location, supposedly held and administered by registered nurses. They were extremely detailed when I dropped everything off. Made me email them photos from vitamin bottles I hadn't brought.

My daughter takes some supplements and some other prescription meds, none of which were taken. The person who took the ADHD meds went specifically for those. They not only had access to the pills, but they had access to the information indicating the "good" pills were there.

RE: NDA - if I were them, I would have already sent me an NDA and an offer.

And you're correct, I'm not really concerned about safety, and if I was I would be driving to the camp right now to get my daughter.

This camp is absolutely top-dollar. I didn't realize this before because my wife makes the plans, but it is extremely expensive compared to other camps. I kind of feel like part of what I'm paying for is an extremely high standard of care, and I don't feel like I've received that. So on that level, I do think a refund of some kind is in order.

I also failed to mention that the person who called last night claimed they're drug testing the whole staff. Yeah, right, to find traces of ADHD meds? I don't think so.

At this point I've only talked to the staff member who called last night. Have not spoken to the camp director, which I certainly will need to do. For all I know, the guy who called last night is the person who stole them. He's also the one driving out today to pick up the replacements.

Man LFS that blows. We have an ADHD kid as well, and it’s a huge hassle to get meds off-cycle as they are a controlled substance. For that reason alone my wife and I would be livid.

I'm in the "stuff happens" camp.

But I would let someone with authority there know how displeased and inconvenienced my family is because of their shortcomings. I would also advise them that I would expect to see a written explanation of what they will be doing to prevent this from happening in the future. Otherwise I would be hard pressed to send my kid there again or recommend the camp to any of my friends who have children.