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05-15-2021 , 02:19 AM
Guess on ages?
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05-15-2021 , 05:29 AM
mid 50s to early 60s, possibly younger though and booze just made them look old

their youngest child was no older than early 20s. i think he'd just graduated college that year

could ask my parents for exact ages if you want

just crazy how everyone knew and looked the other way thinking it wasn't a problem, people would often joke about it and then overnight it just went from fun times to tragic
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05-15-2021 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Guess on ages?
Are you asking for the same reason I ask stuff like that? To see if you could still have drinking time left?
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05-15-2021 , 10:29 AM
We used to have to put Elvis on the jukebox on Sunday night for a couple of big fans who would be too drunk to operate the machine.
One of them said to me “We are going to Memphis next summer, if I last that long, I know there is only so long that you can drink at this pace before it kills you”.
He said it with no resentment or fear, just an acceptance of the cost of the way that he had chosen to live his life.
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05-15-2021 , 11:13 AM
Saying that completely sober is different than saying it while drinking.
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05-15-2021 , 12:52 PM
Rebelp,

This is not the thread for your stream of thought posting. Please do it elsewhere, thanks.
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05-15-2021 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Are you asking for the same reason I ask stuff like that? To see if you could still have drinking time left?
Perhaps...

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Originally Posted by rickroll
mid 50s to early 60s, possibly younger though and booze just made them look old

their youngest child was no older than early 20s. i think he'd just graduated college that year

could ask my parents for exact ages if you want
Nah, was just curious.
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05-15-2021 , 03:41 PM
Ok , but I do think that my post was directly connected to the subject of the thread, was linked indirectly to an earlier post, could you please provide evidence that it was just a stream of thought post, I do not take kindly to being accused without evidence.
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05-15-2021 , 03:42 PM
Sure, here you go.
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05-15-2021 , 05:52 PM
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two teachers at my high school were known to have drinking problems

the name everyone called the husband was "6 pack jack" but they were high functioning so everyone looked the other way

until one day they weren't

the wife was really sick so went to hospital and she was having organ failure, while there they noticed husband was heading down same path so started treating both of them, he walked out two weeks later, she didn't make it, a week later he drank himself to death in his home

never heard from their kids again who were a bit older than me so no longer living at home but often wonder how that impacted them and if they themselves now have those issues

being a high functioning alcoholic teacher, i could have gone on drinking at the (u gon die) pace i was forever. from some, i hid it well. to everyone else, i drank more than anyone they knew but a) i went to work every morning and b) i was good at it and c) i rarely looked or acted ‘drunk’.

summers off... yeah. blessing and a curse. after drinking a handle of fireball a day plus assorted beers from the moment i woke up until i passed out i finally had enough and called a rehab place...

but i didn’t do that until august Quitting Alcohol getting paid to drink makes it doubly hard to quit.
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05-16-2021 , 08:33 PM
It must be very hard. I'm trying to quit carb addiction and that's hard enough, without even the genetic predisposition component. One thing I would mention is to think about the allure of it, its medicating or escape feel good value ... when not under the influence. Make friends with the impulse to change it, don't fight it as an enemy. We need to experience more of the impulse at the moments it strikes ... accepting it, feeling it ... without being owned by it. Seems like a good step in most impulse problems.
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05-18-2021 , 03:39 PM
Had a word with the doctor,
One of the problems I have is my withdrawal symptoms are so severe that I wake in the night and drink, even I know that mixing Librium with alcohol is not the best idea in the world. However he told be that given the amount that I drink overnight it should be safe to strart on the Librium at about 9:00 in the morning.
I am finding the prospect of living with my thoughts terrifying but I know that I need to do it.
I would hope that the people in this thread would be supporting each other, but not all apparently.
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05-18-2021 , 05:20 PM
Howdy folks, hope all are well. My general suggestion with this thread is the same one I give my sponsees regarding AA meetings: look for the similarities, not the differences, and try to think about what you can say and do that might help somebody else. Another thing I tell them is to try to focus on the solution rather than the problem.
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05-19-2021 , 04:39 AM
Raised blood pressure,irritably and impending sense of doom, so all going according to plan.
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05-19-2021 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
4 days now and I'm having the same problem, just eating all the time since I can't do anything with my right hand. Can't type, can't write, can't play guitar.

Going to try reading some books and see if that helps.
You sound like me when I fall into pitifullness. Imo you should focus on what's possible not what's impossible.
And make sure you don't fall anymore. Feet are still working? Use them! You could also see this as a sign to use your hands and brain less and you feet more. Hope that helps.
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05-19-2021 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52
It must be very hard. I'm trying to quit carb addiction and that's hard enough, without even the genetic predisposition component. One thing I would mention is to think about the allure of it, its medicating or escape feel good value ... when not under the influence. Make friends with the impulse to change it, don't fight it as an enemy. We need to experience more of the impulse at the moments it strikes ... accepting it, feeling it ... without being owned by it. Seems like a good step in most impulse problems.
The resolution sounds appealing. Although I didn't even know carb addiction is a thing. Imo you should substitute. Everything turns to sugar anyways but you can't overeat with veggies and fruit. Well you almost can't. If you can't eat it that way try lasagne type stuff or risotto with cheese but lots of veggies. Try that and it should make you feel better.
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05-19-2021 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Rebelp
Had a word with the doctor,
One of the problems I have is my withdrawal symptoms are so severe that I wake in the night and drink, even I know that mixing Librium with alcohol is not the best idea in the world. However he told be that given the amount that I drink overnight it should be safe to strart on the Librium at about 9:00 in the morning.
I am finding the prospect of living with my thoughts terrifying but I know that I need to do it.
I would hope that the people in this thread would be supporting each other, but not all apparently.
I'm not sure if I should ask you, but did you ever do a detox in a clinic? Your symptoms sound like that's what you need. Detoxing at this level is even dangerous if you do it by yourself. I hope your doctor told you this.
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05-19-2021 , 11:18 AM
I agree, I have aborted the mission and am currently checking out residential detox clinics in my area. I am a tight wad so I hate having to pay the small fortune that they will charge, but I guess the money would not do me much good if I’m dead.
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05-19-2021 , 11:39 AM
I don't know your age and your drinking past. But you waking up at nights sounds like you are in serious need.

If you see it as an investment it's a good investment. Here in Europe this stuff is free. You could also try a vacation first and then you might need less time in the clinic. I really can't advice you too much. My dad is in the same spot. I am almost in same spot. So its really difficult to give advice, given the complexity of the topic. Try to Google, controlled drinking. Thats the best advice I can give for now. You can if you want.
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05-19-2021 , 11:54 AM
By the way pure detox only takes 3 days. Thats 1500 at a betty ford for instance The stuff that happens after is important. I do not know what stage you're in or what med it is you take. I am trying to figure this whole thing out too.
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05-19-2021 , 11:56 AM
I've seen people go in and out of these clinics up to 80 times. My dad went to detox I think 2-3 times- It just rinse repeat, pretty frustrating honestly. When hes out he falls right back. Thats what happens to most people, So its not that 1 time is always enough it rarely is the case in fact. U need to have will power.

Last edited by washoe; 05-19-2021 at 12:09 PM.
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05-19-2021 , 12:18 PM
I did an IOP (intensive outpatient) shortly after sobering up last year. 6 weeks of 3 days a week, 3 hours a day. Not as costly as inpatient and more flexible around a job. Also, because I had a hospital visit under my belt, it wasn't that expensive because I was already close to my deductible.
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05-19-2021 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
I did an IOP (intensive outpatient) shortly after sobering up last year. 6 weeks of 3 days a week, 3 hours a day. Not as costly as inpatient and more flexible around a job. Also, because I had a hospital visit under my belt, it wasn't that expensive because I was already close to my deductible.
congrats! Do you have other advice? Did you do any meetings?
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05-19-2021 , 12:54 PM
I am going to phone my NHS GP up tomorrow to see in I can get a referral to an inpatient clinic, but I suspect that the waiting time will be too long for me.
The private clinics in the UK all seem to have a selling tactic of only offering the full inpatient rehab treatment that lasts 28 days. I have access to a very good free rehabilitation support group so I don’t need that, I just need a medically supervised detox.

I am not very happy with the home detox Dr. when I mentioned that that my systolic blood pressure had hit 200, he said that it would probably come down on a few days. Well yeah, if it hasn’t killed me first.
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05-19-2021 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
congrats! Do you have other advice? Did you do any meetings?
I did 2 AA meetings a week at the beginning but slowed down since.

I haven't done it yet, and it might be the piece I am missing, but getting a sponsor and jumping into the program head first seems like the best way to do it long term. Getting as much accountability as possible.

I've been in 'continuing care' since then, which is an hour a week meeting with a counselor and 6-10 people who also did IOP or inpatient thru the same company. Oddly enough I would feel worse about letting them down and drinking than I would with my family, because I've already let them down many times in the past.
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