the double blind vodka thread seems to shadow this one...

Did good for the first couple of bars - 1 beer + 1 club soda. But by the 3rd bar that went out the window. Still managed to only do a couple lines, and passed out at a normal hour. So only a 1-day hangover vs. the one week hangover if I'd have done a bunch of coke. Woke up to two people messing around under the covers on the couch across from me. A few of them were still partying when I got up and left at 10am. Ugh.

So I'm glad I didn't have a blow out. And I do remember making the conscious choice to just pass out instead of keep going. So that's a positive. Negatives are it still wasn't that much fun. I'm fairly broke right now and missed out on a Sat. night of playing and all day Sunday - the most profitable time for poker. I fee like I'm only doing it to keep up ties with that group. So meh. I feel like I should be happier with myself for not doing a ton of coke. Maybe that will come tomorrow after I get some exercise and back in my routine.

One thing I definitely noticed is I was getting pretty short-tempered leading up to this night out. I think it's a combination of trying hard to lose weight (low carb diet, ton of exercise), stressing about the pub crawl, and running fairly crappy at poker. I completely over-reacted and went off on another 6-max SNG regular and 2p2er, who was registering on top of me and another regular - then played dumb and pulled this weasely crap when I called him out on it. I still think he's a little bitch. But I over-reacted big time - and definitely lost money on my other tables while I was going off on him. So that's another pitfall to worry about.

If it's 'no' for suzzer as well then I would go with not drinking at all that day.

I've been trying to analyze why Sat. day/night still didn't feel like that much fun to me. It just feels like 40 is a little old to be having loud, chaotic, pointless conversations with friends or strangers in bars. Like there's 15-20 other things I'd rather be doing that don't involve getting wasted.

Well - my analysis -

- good that you exhibited more control than normal
- good that you recognized it just wasn't that fun

All in all - though you didn't knock it out of the park - definitely sounds like progress compared to what would have normally happened - and based on your posts - such a scene will get easier and easier to withstand going forward.

suzzer, I knew I needed to quit before I actually did it, and definitely enjoyed my "swan song" drinking sessions much less because of it. I think this is you working towards being done for good.

2+2 name and/or screenshots or it didn't happen.

One thing I am grateful for reading about the weekend warrior thing is, my schedule for years has been flexible enough that I am/was as likely to drink and get drunk on a Monday as a Friday or Saturday. They're all interchangeable to me. The downfall of this is that there are no borders on the weekends. A decade ago I'd fairly regularly go get drunk on Fri/Sat, recover all day Sunday, then be fresh by Monday.

Somewhat predictably, this led to Sunday drinking - using excuses like football season - and then the walls came down altogether, especially when I had the ability to set my own schedule. Sure there's something empowering about hanging out with friends at 1PM on a Monday and throwing back a double vodka soda, but it's not a long-term solution to anything. Plus the "drink anytime" freedom led to really weird detox days - sometimes I'd use the weekend to sober up from a week of drinking.

Interesting. I don't remember my last drink. Not because I was drunk - I wasn't - but because it was an unremarkable drink on a Tuesday night. Had I considered it would be my last indefinitely it may have been memorable. As it is, that's one thing I kinda regret, that I didn't have one last bender before the sabbatical. I just woke up the next morning and decided it was time. But reading this makes it seem like it isn't as awesome as I envision.

I'm gonna go against the grain here and so no, you shouldn't be happier. If your goal is to quit then any time you go back to using you should be disappointed in yourself. You failed.

Be strong man, don't let this stuff creep back up through "I'll just do a little less this time."

I went and saw Crazy Heart this weekend. That was interesting enough. It was quite uncomfortable sitting next E (girlfriend) of 3.5 years and watching that movie.

Spoiler alert:


Anyway, I've been feeling pretty good over the past week. I'm actually having moments where I can visualize myself choosing not to drink in social occasions. I'm forming this negative opinion of it... sort like "eh.. I don't really need to be doing that."

I didn't really get put into any situations that would allow me to drink though. I've been sick all weekend and haven't done much but play teh pokers and play flight simulator.


Suzzer...you're 40? I feel like that's way too old to be out there on a coke binge for the weekend. Then again, I never really got into doing any sort of hard drugs like that. I suppose at even my age, 26, I'm starting to believe that I need to be waking up in my own bed every night. Obviously there are going to be some times when that doesn't happen but for the most part I think it's time for me to be responsible enough that I don't get hammered and tanked that I have to spend the night elsewhere. Now.. if you're an hour across town, I can definitely see staying elsewhere.

My goal is to avoid the week-long depression and subsequent diet/getting stuff done derailment that comes after an all-nighter. If I can somehow just do a line or two every few months (debatable I realize) then I'd be fine with that. Like I said though, I'm not thrilled about Sat. night because I think I might just be getting over that whole scene.

Yeah it probably is way too old. I could have driven home but I'm glad I just crashed instead. I was in no condition to drive.

I hear that. I can certainly appreciate you not driving.

Well I made it a week without the drinking, and I feel pretty good today. I felt pretty crappy from day 2-6 -- headache, irritable, tired, thirsty. Tomorrow I'm going to start exercising and eating better, this last week I've just sat around and eaten whatever I feel like because my body was adjusting to no alcohol. I don't really even feel like drinking, but I haven't been in a position where I've really been tempted or the situation was one where I would always drink.

Do it mang. Keep at it.

I've been killin the ice cream all week though. I still managed to go from 221.2 to 217.0 in the past week. I've just been riding my bicycle for 40 minutes or so a day and eating fairly healthy. The ice cream has come in shape of http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/4...80da51f303.jpg Skinny cows. Pretty low in calories.

Not posting name, sorry. Someone might be able to figure it out though. Some pieces are missing because this is from the HH and if the chat is inbetween hands it doesn't get captured. I can promise you if we were somehow transported to the same room together there would have been a physical altercation. I was that pissed, and it came on really quick. Definitely some stress/diet related stuff going on there.

2p2 POS said, "suzz, u wanted something before, srry lotta tables"
suzzer99 said, "yeah"
suzzer99 said, "i regged for a $119"
suzzer99 said, "then you and DDBeast join"
2p2 POS said, "?"
2p2 POS said, "why do u say that?"
suzzer99 said, "because you did"
suzzer99 said, "i unregged"
2p2 POS said, "i dont understand ur point"
suzzer99 said, "gfy"
2p2 POS said, "y so hostle?"
suzzer99 said, "dude dont play games"
suzzer99 said, "i would never reg after two other regs"
2p2 POS said, "again, y so hositle?"
suzzer99 said, "**"
suzzer99 said, "smarmy POS"
2p2 POS said, "wow"
suzzer99 said, "get ready for constant spite calls and getting played back at"
2p2 POS said, "how old are you?"
2p2 POS said, "12?"
suzzer99 said, "also me regging on top of every single one of your games"
2p2 POS said, "promise?"
suzzer99 said, "its not the regging its the playing dumb smarmy crap"
suzzer99 said, "i would never treat another 2p2er that way"
suzzer99 said, "you can really go **** yourself you worthless POS"
2p2 POS said, "grow up"
suzzer99 said, "youre a douchebag"
suzzer99 said, "the only reason i unregged for that is i already had too many tables"
suzzer99 said, "dont think it will ever happen again"
2p2 POS said, "LOL"
suzzer99 said, "obv not, you're one of the dumbest regs around when it comes to game selection"
suzzer99 said, "have fun with the downswings"
2p2 POS said, "thats over with, but ty, and any time u want to compaer performance u let me know"
suzzer99 said, "im up about 15k this year"
suzzer99 said, "because i dont reg on top of other regs on every 6-man"
suzzer99 said, "ill take those results in jan/feb"
2p2 POS said, "so lets bet who will win more this year"
2p2 POS said, "calling you out u mihgt say"
suzzer99 said, "im not on SS"
suzzer99 said, "and planning to take a lot of time off"
2p2 POS said, "how bout 09"
suzzer99 said, "that playing dumb **** just really really tilts me"
2p2 POS said, "or 08"
suzzer99 said, "that"
suzzer99 said, ""i dont get your point""
suzzer99 said, "when you damn well got my point"
2p2 POS said, "\ur a hack"
suzzer99 said, "that's slimy"
suzzer99 said, "im trying to settle down here"
2p2 POS said, "u talk like that to ppl's faces?"
suzzer99 said, "you really want to have a war?"
suzzer99 said, "it's no worse than passive aggressive smarmy playing dumb ****"
suzzer99 said, "and you know it"
2p2 POS said, "ur hack, ill relish every you game u play with me"
2p2 POS said, "freaking piker"
suzzer99 said, "ok then"
2p2 POS said, "get some class dude"
suzzer99 said, "you started the classless ****"
suzzer99 said, "by far"
2p2 POS said, " lets see what ur 2/2 boyz"
2p2 POS said, " say"
suzzer99 said, "post it"

That's definitely e-peen. The typing like a 12-year-old girl chatting with her BFF gives him away every time.

from above convo:

suzzer = douchebag crybaby
other guy = normal

yep, pretty much

I'm pretty sure suzzer already admitted that he over-reacted to that situation. I have no idea whether any annoyance over the situation in question was reasonable to begin with.

thanks a lot *******, i just went shopping and had to buy those

There's pretty much an unwritten rule you that 3 regulars, much less 3 solid 2p2ers, in a 6-max sng is ******ed. No one beats the rake in that spot. The only reason to do it is 1) you're too dumb to know any better, or 2) you want people to think you're too dumb to know any better and let you have the SNGs (gamesmanship). Any other 2p2er would have called him out on that, so I'm 100% sure he knew exactly what I was talking about. He was just playing dumb in a really weasely way that set me off for some reason.

But yeah I definitely way over-reacted. That's why I posted that. I should have just laughed it off and marked him down as a douchebag. In my world you pull cheesy crap like that on another 2p2er that you already know somewhat, at least online. Maybe I'm old-fashioned like that. I get along well with 99% of the people I play against, so I don't think I'm generally a giant douchebag.

no offense suzzer but i was thinking this the whole time
just ask nicely

edit: i wrote this b4 i read anything after it.
disregard you already know you over reacted

See my explanation. I started off totally nice. To which I got "?", then "why do u say that?" then "i dont understand ur point". Trust me, there is zero chance he didn't understand my point the first time. He was being a little ass. I just way over-reacted. See his replies after I spelled it out a couple more times. He never even tried to address my point, just kept saying "y so hostile" because he knew exactly what my point was. If you talk to some mid-high stakes 6-max regs they'll confirm that any reg would know what I was talking about. It's a fairly constant source of friction. He was trolling me basically.

man are there are enough games in 6 max to be able to avoid other regs that hard. i guess so otherwise noone would be doing it. when i start playing again it will be hu and i know there can be alot of offense taken when it comes to sitting other regs and 2+2r's. so i totally understand the backbone of the debate. i just think the way it was handled which you have already admitted to makes you seem worse.

edit: also moving on this is a dead horse and i dont belong in this debate newayz

Suzzer,

I play stt as my game of choice and at times registered after other regs, and have had other regs register after me, 6-man and 9-man, it's part of the game. What exactly is cheesey or slimy about it? Do you two have a history?