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Pub quiz where you inadvertently have an unfair advantage - fess up or play on? Pub quiz where you inadvertently have an unfair advantage - fess up or play on?
View Poll Results: Ethically
'Fess up, get $2.50 refund
4 8.00%
Play on because you did not know in advance
32 64.00%
Fine to play even if you knew in advance
12 24.00%
Play on but give the same answers you gave the first time
1 2.00%
Other
1 2.00%

01-11-2019 , 07:53 PM
There's a good chance at least one other team is in the same situation imo.
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01-11-2019 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
Yeah I mean there's some hyperbole in there, but I just don't get playing (and winning) when you have all the answers. I see virtually no difference in this scenario and one where the answer sheet is left on your table and you use it to win.
So you're thinking someone would memorize all the answers in a pub quiz on the off chance the exact same quiz came up again sometime? If someone just remembered the answers isn't that what learning is?
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01-11-2019 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sumey
There's a good chance at least one other team is in the same situation imo.
Is this relevant? And lol at this being hand-waved as 'learning'.
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01-11-2019 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkOne
Your reason for knowing the answers is no less valid than somebody who learned them a different way
This seems about right. In no way are you cheating. Some people learn trivia through osmosis, some people learn it by reading, others learn from playing the game.
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01-11-2019 , 08:58 PM
if it was a free event i'd probably say screw it and play. if other people are putting in money to play i probably wouldn't.

i dont know what that says about my ethics or morals..
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01-11-2019 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
if it was a free event i'd probably say screw it and play. if other people are putting in money to play i probably wouldn't.

i dont know what that says about my ethics or morals..
if you buy a round, you are paying $3+ for a drink on the $2.50 entree fee, and it sounds like no one is gtd a win anyway.

grando, you sound like a loon, take a breath
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01-12-2019 , 12:31 AM
It is irritating me that some of you are referring to the OP as "he/him". Sheesh, her username is "PartyGirlUK".

OP,

Play on. It's not guaranteed that you will win. Like others pointed out you still need to execute and you very well could be going against another team with that had the same previous knowledge you have. Additionally, the winner isn't guaranteed the $500. They have a 30% chance at it. So it's not like you are just walking away with a guaranteed win and a guaranteed prize.
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01-12-2019 , 12:32 AM
Maybe we have an unfair advantage having previously seen him at a sister forum.
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01-12-2019 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Villian1
It is irritating me that some of you are referring to the OP as "he/him". Sheesh, her username is "PartyGirlUK".
Wrong thread
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01-12-2019 , 08:19 AM
I see no problem with it.
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01-12-2019 , 09:40 AM
If the previous quiz was months earlier I'd have forgotten all the answers anyway, unless they were things I happened to know in the first place.
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01-12-2019 , 10:59 AM
I used to regularly attend a trivia where we finished second, like, 80% of the time. So yeah, if we were against those pompous lawyer dicks then yeah **** it they're going down. One of them would wear a kilt to the pub every week. ugh.
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01-12-2019 , 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
I completely disagree with everyone else fwiw. If this happened it would be akin to the trivial pursuit analogy; I just wouldn't play. Justifying it with buying rounds is kind of dumb. It literally hurts you zero to not play, but wrecks everything for everyone else if you do. **** pub cheaters.

Does everyone on your team know the answers or just you?

This is different than the 30/30 test for obvious reasons.
Actually the TP analogy is flawed. It would be more like you play trivial pursuit a lot and had been exposed to some of the same questions not too long ago. This is something that happens and nobody is expected to recuse themselves.

There was no inadvertent exposing answers. They learned answers by playing other trivia games. This is very common for people who do well at trivia games.

This is neither an ethical nor a moral dilemma, it is full fledged nittery.

Playing a different trivia game is not some sort of unfair advantage.

Of course all of this ignores the weirdness of not playing and staying because it would be too weird.
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01-12-2019 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
Lol at not telling anyone. If it doesn't matter then you should be able to tell the guys running it, as well as everyone in the bar, exactly how you knew the answers. But of course you won't cause you'll (rightfully) look like cheaty douches.

Like someone said before, I'm not saying it's your fault you know the answers. But I feel any decision other than "hey pub-quiz-running-guy, we were at trivia at (blank) a few months ago and know all these answers - can we get our money back?" is wrong.
Yes everyone at a pub trivia contest should tell the organizers the origin story of how and when they learned every particular fact on the quiz.

You don’t do that because it would make one as annoying there as you are itt.
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01-12-2019 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Of course all of this ignores the weirdness of not playing and staying because it would be too weird.
I was wondering about that.
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01-12-2019 , 12:07 PM
as the only person to vote 'play on but just answer the ones you already knew', my thoughts:

- like you said, it's impractical and annoying to leave the pub and go somewhere else

- who wants to win a pub quiz in this fashion? what's the point? the $166 of EV that you're gonna split with 4-5 other people? come on.

- justifying winning and getting a perfect score because it's 'technically not cheating' sucks. you have a choice between a soulless victory in which you essentially break the game and ensure no other team has a fair chance to win, or letting it play out in as close to a normal way as possible. just don't be an *******.

- don't tell your friends*. answer the questions you already knew, because you knew them. let your friends answer the other questions

- explain to the quizmaster afterwards what happened. if you didn't win, they'll probably be grateful and comp you some free drinks. now you get to bask in the warm glow of feeling like a decent human being, and you also have some free drinks.

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*ok so having gone back and read the OP i was assuming OP is the only one who knows the answers to the questions, but it isn't clear. if the whole team knows the answers, i would just hang out and chat and finish drinks and not play. in one of the breaks explain the situation to the quizmaster and get your money refunded, then go elsewhere.
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01-12-2019 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
as the only person to vote 'play on but just answer the ones you already knew', my thoughts:

- like you said, it's impractical and annoying to leave the pub and go somewhere else

- who wants to win a pub quiz in this fashion? what's the point? the $166 of EV that you're gonna split with 4-5 other people? come on.

- justifying winning and getting a perfect score because it's 'technically not cheating' sucks. you have a choice between a soulless victory in which you essentially break the game and ensure no other team has a fair chance to win, or letting it play out in as close to a normal way as possible. just don't be an *******.

- don't tell your friends*. answer the questions you already knew, because you knew them. let your friends answer the other questions

- explain to the quizmaster afterwards what happened. if you didn't win, they'll probably be grateful and comp you some free drinks. now you get to bask in the warm glow of feeling like a decent human being, and you also have some free drinks.

--

*ok so having gone back and read the OP i was assuming OP is the only one who knows the answers to the questions, but it isn't clear. if the whole team knows the answers, i would just hang out and chat and finish drinks and not play. in one of the breaks explain the situation to the quizmaster and get your money refunded, then go elsewhere.
This does a way better job of explaining my position than I did - particularly the "soulless victory" part.
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01-12-2019 , 02:36 PM
How did the scenario play out op?
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01-12-2019 , 02:49 PM
Looking at the OP again, it seems like the whole team have played this quiz before. And if it's pub-quiz rules where you can put your heads together, increasing the probability that someone will remember each answer, and if it's pay-to-play and it's for money (though the situation is really no different if it's just for honour), you simply can't play. You've 'had sight of the questions' and you need to disqualify yourselves.
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01-12-2019 , 04:15 PM
Imagine doing pub quizzes in the first place
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01-12-2019 , 05:13 PM
Play and get everything right that you can

there are several questions ive seen cycled at my bar trivia place that I still miss both times
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01-12-2019 , 05:46 PM
The thing is there might be others already doing it that are in the same position as you and have already seen the same questions before or even worse there is some sort of inside deal between the bar and its regulars with the regulars giving the bar staff a % of the winnings. I've worked at a London bar before and the shenanigans that go on behind the bar will amaze you.
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01-12-2019 , 06:52 PM
Play on. It's not your fault you know the answers.
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01-13-2019 , 12:39 AM
How about this goes against the spirit of the game and games in general.

Unless the game you are playing is the Game of Life. Then by all means.
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01-13-2019 , 01:28 AM
Lol it's a $2.50 pub quiz, who gives af.

Dominate the quiz, own those pub quiz nerds and walk around with your head held high. If you win the $500, loudly announce that your drink was free each time you buy one - add a cackle at the end for good measure
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