What the **** is going on in here?

In my country it's a criminal offence under Domestic Abuse legislation to abuse someone psychologically by e.g. seeking to isolate them from friends and family. By saying 'I've been told to stay away from her by professionals (who should be believed and obeyed' it's not a big leap to 'and so should you also' as well as the blackening of her name). I'm involved through her choice mostly, plus I know all parties so have an interest in a self-absorbed liar not shattering the fabric of important relationships through deception and distortion. If psychs have a kind of a-priori ban on issuing relationship diktats with only unilateral info it kind of helps unmask him.
All I want from this situation is her well-being and her not isolated from those who are important to her, and they from her. The situation has been very unhealthy for my mind also for several months, but it's worth the outcome.
At a stretch I think they'd only advise leaving dangerous relationships when they have the full story.

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I very much don't, I'm delighted they're apart. But his lies have torn a lot of other people apart.

It's unbelievably sick, I know all those scenes like the back of my hand but would not have pulled that one off.
I've seen the actor post pics of himself in remote places, pretending to be that character 'still in exile'. The legend lives on.

OP,

Are you currently sleeping with your friend? Have you ever? Do you want to?

Very much not. I know the other person very well though and I'm aware of the danger he represents.

Lol, that law has nothing to do with your friend's situation. If she's isolated from her friends because her husband, for example, is threatening to harm her if she contacts them, or won't allow her to have a cell phone or use the internet, that's domestic abuse. If she's isolated from her friends because they choose not to associate with her based on what someone told them, that's not domestic abuse

Of course they don't. They have an a priori ban on having sex with their clients, but that's about it, and even that doesn't stop them all the time. There's a poster here who has seen multiple therapists whom she says have told her she needs to break up with her boyfriend.

So what are the major mental issues this situation is presenting you?

You are helping a dear friend in need, who is getting out of a bad situation, away from a psychotic individual.

The whole shrink thing and this guy's communication about it is just so ****ed no one itt can possibly give a reasonable take. You are conveying massively incomplete information, as a 3rd party, with some first-hand evidence, which itself is 2nd hand, you and her have never even met the shrink, and your source is a violent, cheating, crazy dude.

You've gotten across something resembling:
"now he is talking **** to friends through social media, omg ohnoes, whatever shall we do"

Which is weird. It is your place to help and shelter your friend, not to be her spokesperson about her situation to all her friends. And the first thing both of you should do is stop giving a single **** about anything this dude says. If you aren't friends with massive idiots, then no one will trust this dude anyway, and know he's unhinged. If somehow he is ruining friendships, then you and her need better friends anyway.

It seems like based on the OP title that you wanted people to say, "the shrink should have never said that", do you want them back together or something?

OP, how long have you known MLYLT and Code3?

And there we have it.

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I don't see how she is isolated. He left her. She can do what she wants.

You say this is worth the outcome. What outcome? What is your end goal here? To get with her?

Thanks, that's very helpful.
I was really trying to get a handle on whether shrinks are normally directed away from getting involved in issuing personal-relationship-directives. It kind of spiralled from there, helpfully at some points.
Heh, funny you should say that about others working him out. I think that's kind of what happened, I only have vague info about that but it seems things did not go to plan for him.
I don't want them to get back, I don't think they ever will. It's likely that the others put a lot of credit on his suggestion that he was told by professionals to stay away from her. I'd like very much for her to get back involved in the circles she was previously involved in.
Actually now you mention it, a lot of them are massive idiots.
Thanks.

His circles were her circles. He badmouthed her, they've all gone. She's just...isolated. A few casual acquaintances here and there, and me basically.
The outcome would be the restoration of some of the most important relationships she had before.
No intention at all to be with her, just to see the mess undone a bit for her.

The villain represented a serious threat to me over a large number of years, the situation draws me back into his environment with a generally hostile overtone.

chris,

She's very lucky to have someone as caring and understanding as you in her life. If she expressed interest in getting together with you, would you consider it?

It's a sucky situation, and i feel bad for her. But i don't think this is criminal behavior. But maybe in your country, it is. If you believe that, then why haven't you called the cops?

Nothing regular. For me, the sun rises and sets with her.

He did make other more direct steps to isolate her, which are probably criminal. Cops are a bit of a blunt instrument in this kind of situation maybe.

This.

OP, your involvement in this thing seems... strange.

OP is most likely being manipulated by girl right?

Let me ask you this OP, why would a girl marry someone so alledgedly ****ed up? Could it be because she is really ****ed up as well?

Either way you yourself should eject IMO

Why are you not listing those criminal actions? You seem to want to have the whole story peeled back layer by layer instead of telling it all up front.

A message for the OP:

Chris,


What are you afraid of? It seems obvious to everyone that you two are meant to be together.