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View Poll Results: How many beers before you call a cab (standard american light beer nothing hard)?
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70 25.93%
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62 22.96%
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44 16.30%
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34 12.59%
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60 22.22%

09-03-2010 , 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
I've got two DUIs so my standards for myself are pretty stringent now. I never take my car anywhere that I'm actually planning on drinking for a while and not just having a couple drinks with a meal or something, and probably 4 drinks total is the absolute most I'll drive with.
This is not a stringent standard - I won't drive if I have had any alcohol within 8 hours. I don't have a DUI.
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09-03-2010 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Gin 'n Tonic
This is not a stringent standard - I won't drive if I have had any alcohol within 8 hours. I don't have a DUI.
That's insane. Why so strict?
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09-03-2010 , 07:39 AM
Talking about bikes, are you allowed to drive drunk with your bike in the US?
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09-03-2010 , 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JDalla
That's insane. Why so strict?
Because I don't value drinking much as a form of entertainment, and I honestly believe that the standard for drink driving should be set way lower than it is now.
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09-03-2010 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nintendere
Talking about bikes, are you allowed to drive drunk with your bike in the US?

Not in my state (Oregon). I am assuming you mean bicycle and not motorcycle. The answer is the same either way.
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09-03-2010 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11
ur a hateful old man but in a sad way i can't blame u tho. almost turning 40, ur life sucks, biggest accomplishment is finishing 3rd overall on your local bars golden tee etc
Not bad.
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09-03-2010 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by abb1987
I got a DUI in CA in 2007. The biggest thing I can stress here is DO NOT drive at all if you've had anything to drink. Even if your BAC is below .08, they can and probably will still book you if you have ANY alcohol in your system. If they somehow find out about your first offense, they will DEFINITELY take you in regardless of BAC if anything shows up.

I know its a bitch, but the second one comes with a lot harsher penalties.
This. You have already rolled the dice and lost. Its time to change your behavior and either find rides or call cabs 100% until you put some distance between yourself and this event.

Honestly if you got a DUI you probably are not going to be able to implement any system that will avoid this. You will think you are ok, then be out and slip to just one more drink etc etc until you are back in the tank again.

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09-03-2010 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nintendere
Talking about bikes, are you allowed to drive drunk with your bike in the US?
If you are on a street you are in a vehicle. I think if you are on a bike/walking path you are fine and the only thing they could really get you for is drunk in public. However you would never be stopped unless you were acting really weird on a bike IMO.

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09-03-2010 , 09:44 AM
By "cab" you mean "wife", right?
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09-03-2010 , 10:28 AM
5'10 and about 220 back then. Had 4 budweisers in under an hour, got pulled over right after leaving the bar by the police.

Spoiler:
Blew .025 which surprised the hell out of me and the cops. These days its a strict two drink limit.
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09-03-2010 , 10:45 AM
Totally different standards here in the UK. Even the scumbags think that drink driving is scummy. From what I can gather, we have the same limit as in the US, but maybe it is policed differently. If you go and knock somebody over with BAC not zero, but below the limit, that's going to count against you. I heard you can get done for drink driving even if below the limit if you look really drunk, without giving any other cause for concern.
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09-03-2010 , 10:48 AM
you want to prevent yourself from getting a DUI

Don't drink (at all) and drive.

I'd say the number is 1 or 2 but no more ever
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09-03-2010 , 11:21 AM
It's strange to me how much standards on drunk driving have changed in the US. When I was young, driving while utterly plastered was seen as a somewhat poor idea; now people (including, probably, most OOTers) see even moderately impaired driving as not only criminal but immoral.

If you're pretty likely to make it home without being caught or hitting a fire hydrant (been there...), then screw the cab. (If you've already been caught once you have to a lot more careful, though, because the penalties are stupidly harsh.)
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09-03-2010 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JDalla
As mentioned earlier ITT, it's really not as simple as "OMG your putting peoples' lives at risk." There is unsafe driving, and there is driving after drinking. The two do not always overlap.

As far as taxis, it's calling the taxi, waiting for it, taking it, paying for it, and then figuring out the next day how to get to your car. (Or doing the whole thing twice, taking a taxi to leave as well.) It's really not always the most practical thing.
Quick google search.

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-dr...tatistics.html

11k road deaths so you people don't have the trouble of planning their evening?
Looks like letting people decide for themselves works. My bad.
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09-03-2010 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
It's strange to me how much standards on drunk driving have changed in the US. When I was young, driving while utterly plastered was seen as a somewhat poor idea; now people (including, probably, most OOTers) see even moderately impaired driving as not only criminal but immoral.
I think it's probably more dangerous to drive drunk nowadays than it was in the past. Cars are faster and less sturdy, there are exponentially more on the roads, and most people suck at driving. Other drivers tend to be very oblivious which is dangerous, so whereas in the past you just had to drive your car straight, which was easy enough to do drunk, nowadays you have to drive your car straight and also avoid all the ****s in SUVs applying lipstick and yelling at their kids, which is harder.
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09-03-2010 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony_P
I think it's probably more dangerous to drive drunk nowadays than it was in the past. Cars are faster and less sturdy, there are exponentially more on the roads, and most people suck at driving. Other drivers tend to be very oblivious which is dangerous, so whereas in the past you just had to drive your car straight, which was easy enough to do drunk, nowadays you have to drive your car straight and also avoid all the ****s in SUVs applying lipstick and yelling at their kids, which is harder.
Not sure what you mean, but cars today are way safer than in the past.
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09-03-2010 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
I've got two DUIs so my standards for myself are pretty stringent now. I never take my car anywhere that I'm actually planning on drinking for a while and not just having a couple drinks with a meal or something, and probably 4 drinks total is the absolute most I'll drive with.

When it comes to other people driving drunk though, I really don't have a problem with it at all. With my friends, I feel safe in the car with them having had between 8 and 15 drinks depending on how heavy of drinkers they are and how much alcohol affects them. Obviously, this isn't in a super-short time frame or anything, but I'm probably assuming ~3 drinks an hour. Basically, I feel like if you're not at least on the verge of being blacked out, the risk of anything bad happening in a short distance is still pretty small, likely no more than 5-10x as likely as you are to get in a wreck sober, and definitely less likely than you would if you were say texting and driving. As you get to the blackout stage though, the risk increases really really sharply in a hurry.

No wonder you have 2 DUIs with a moronic viewpoint such as that. It's just unbelievable that anyone would think driving drunk is acceptable. Having one drink and driving is one thing, knowing that you are impaired in anyway and deciding to drive is another. Just look at the statistics on how many people are injured/killed by drunk drivers. Took you 2 DUIs to realize that maybe it isn't the best idea to drive impaired, yet you still think it is acceptable for others to do so.


I mean, really, seems like some of you need a family member seriously injured or killed by a drunk driver to actually realize that it isn't a joke. And people in the US are fortunate enough that the legal limit is .08 and not .02 or less like many countries.

For the record, I've never had anyone I know involved in an alcohol-related crash.
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09-03-2010 , 12:10 PM
I've never called a cab on my own initiative. Like I can't answer this question, I don't know what the number is. There might not be a number.
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09-03-2010 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sounded Simple
Quick google search.

http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-dr...tatistics.html

11k road deaths so you people don't have the trouble of planning their evening?
Looks like letting people decide for themselves works. My bad.
again, it's the tards who can't handle their liquor/drive fast as hell which ruin it for the rest of us. I've personally driven drunk at least twice a week for the past 8ish years (quick math tells me this is at least 104 times a year) and never once got into an accident. however i've driven in the snow for far less (maybe like 10 times a year?) for like 10ish years. I've been in 3 accidents in the snow and all occured while I was sober. infact i've never been in an accident in which snow/ice was not involved.

have you ever driven in the snow? if not it's probably because it doesn't snow where you are from, because if it does you almost surely have.

70% of winter deaths occur from driving in the snow/ice, that is insane high

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...AAAKoEBU_Qj2nE

I'm gonna assume you either have driven in the snow or would if it snowed where you were from, so I am OUTRAGED that you would endanger other peoples lives and yours like that.

Last edited by EPiPeN11; 09-03-2010 at 12:21 PM.
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09-03-2010 , 12:16 PM
here in philly , (*knocks on wood*) 99% of the time if you dont hit another car/ or a person, cops let you go. suburbs like Bucks. Co. and MontCo FORGET IT! its like the small municipalities thrive and enjoy it.
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09-03-2010 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bulletproof Monk
what the **** is this ****?

are you implying that there are no good tasting beers with <5%?
basically

I wish I could enjoy cheap bad tasting beer, but I guess my taste buds have evolved past that.
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09-03-2010 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11
again, it's the tards who can't handle their liquor/drive fast as hell which ruin it for the rest of us. I've personally driven drunk at least twice a week for the past 8ish years (quick math tells me this is at least 104 times a year) and never once got into an accident. however i've driven in the snow for far less (maybe like 10 times a year?) for like 10ish years. I've been in 3 accidents in the snow and all occured while I was sober. infact i've never been in an accident in which snow/ice was not involved.

have you ever driven in the snow? if not it's probably because it doesn't snow where you are from, because if it does you almost surely have.

70% of winter deaths occur from driving in the snow/ice, that is insane high

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...AAAKoEBU_Qj2nE

I'm gonna assume you either have driven in the snow or would if it snowed where you were from, so I am OUTRAGED that you would endanger other peoples lives and yours like that.

I hope you get caught, jackass. Driving in the snow is a non-controllable factor and everyone who decides to drive in it has consented to the fact that there is snow. I cannot, however, control who drinks and who decides to drive after drinking. Maybe you just need to learn how to downshift/use your ebrake. Driving in the snow isn't that hard if you know your car and had a little time to get used to the conditions in terms of traction and braking distance.


And anyone with the attitude, drunk drivers who suck at driving ruin it for the rest of drunk drivers deserves to be caught.
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09-03-2010 , 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by niftymatt
I hope you get caught, jackass. Driving in the snow is a non-controllable factor and everyone who decides to drive in it has consented to the fact that there is snow. I cannot, however, control who drinks and who decides to drive after drinking. Maybe you just need to learn how to downshift/use your ebrake. Driving in the snow isn't that hard if you know your car and had a little time to get used to the conditions in terms of traction and braking distance.


And anyone with the attitude, drunk drivers who suck at driving ruin it for the rest of drunk drivers deserves to be caught.
I hope you learn something, that all drunk drivers were not created equal. There are loads of people out there who absolutely should not be driving drunk. However there are some that can drive drunk just fine.

But even trying to get you to accept that is a waste of time, I learned a while ago to never argue with tards seriously as you will never change their mind no matter how right you are.
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09-03-2010 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11
again, it's the tards who can't handle their liquor/drive fast as hell which ruin it for the rest of us. I've personally driven drunk at least twice a week for the past 8ish years (quick math tells me this is at least 104 times a year) and never once got into an accident. however i've driven in the snow for far less (maybe like 10 times a year?) for like 10ish years. I've been in 3 accidents in the snow and all occured while I was sober. infact i've never been in an accident in which snow/ice was not involved.

have you ever driven in the snow? if not it's probably because it doesn't snow where you are from, because if it does you almost surely have.

70% of winter deaths occur from driving in the snow/ice, that is insane high

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...AAAKoEBU_Qj2nE

I'm gonna assume you either have driven in the snow or would if it snowed where you were from, so I am OUTRAGED that you would endanger other peoples lives and yours like that.
Sick brag man, you must be very talented. However, this analagy simply doesnt work. It is sometimes unavoidable to be driving in winter conditions, and people may be caught of guard(Black ice, poor car handling). Driving drunk is 100% avoidable. Not sure why you are complaining about your accidents happening in the snow rather than when you were on the piss, i would be pretty happy with that. All it takes is 1 drunken driving accident to screw your life up. But maybe if you bring your previous records to court (104 times a year...lol) the judge will go easy on you
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09-03-2010 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by EPiPeN11
I hope you learn something, that all drunk drivers were not created equal. There are loads of people out there who absolutely should not be driving drunk. However there are some that can drive drunk just fine.

But even trying to get you to accept that is a waste of time, I learned a while ago to never argue with tards seriously as you will never change their mind no matter how right you are.

LOL! I have years of statistics in 50 states on drunk driving to back up any argument that you can ever throw at me. Your anecdotal evidence isn't going to fly anywhere. Obviously there is a difference in having a .09 and a .20 BAC in how someone will drive, but it doesn't make drunk driving excusable. If you are "drunk" like you state, then you are a POS. Hope you get some jail/prison time. Drunk driving isn't a joke.


Still laughing at the snow argument. Obviously you just suck at driving, and it doesn't even work. Driving in the snow is avoidable, and if you drive slowly enough, then you can avoid most accidents. Get some snow tires or a better vehicle, FFS.
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