Well, everyone obviously dies. At age 70+, your outlook is so much different on life. You have the specter of death facing straight at you.

One of many reasons why seniors are susceptible to scams. I also think they have seen so many failures of “traditional” measures.

It is the perfect time to find religion. Religious people have slightly better health outcomes and it is a relatively harmless gamble on eternal salvation.

The reason seniors are susceptible to these scams is because olds are dumb, lonely, and easily confused.

How do you explain Steve Jobs who literally gambled on his life?

Jobs didn't gamble anything. He was already dead.

Correct. No known science offers any hope for a recurrence of pancreatic cancer of the kind Jobs had.

This may be true but the one OP was talking about seemed to have been 'subscribing' regular medicine (vitamins) which could in fact react with traditional medication AFAIK so this specific case is not completely harmless.

He delayed treatment for 9 months. You don't know for certain what the outcome would have been. He went crazy alternative from the get go.

Once again golf is right and everyone else is wrong. Or he may be. Who knows if this is accurate: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/liv...le9165605.html

Thing is the first time they got it. It was the recurrence that killed him.

Grunching but if she is getting a placebo effect that makes her feel good that might actually be helping.

Would be good to get more information on what's wrong to speak beyond that.

Ok so think about this logically... assuming that the patient has alternative communication streams if anything is actually serious, isn't this scam a really good thing?

Also would you be upset if she was going to a religious thing like church or mosque, which most senior people do? Because that's pretty much the same thing in terms of scamminess, just in a different form.

most likely, jobs at the time of diagnoses already had liver metastases and the delay didn't impact his chances of recurrence. but there is at the very least some small chance that the liver mets developed during his 9 month beet juice binge.

About a year ago I started suffering very badly with bad anxiety and panic attacks especially at night that got so bad I was afraid to go to bed. I saw doctors who tested me with thousands of dollars worth of tests which were all fine. I was put on ativan which I took for about 8 months straight.

During this time I was desperate so I saw some alternative specialists such as a acupuncturist who jammed needles all over my body (including my ears), many of which were actually lit on fire. Didn't help.

Then I saw a traditional homeopath. I sat in his office for two hours as he was asking me tons of questions trying find that perfect "remedy". He said he had it down to a few and wanted to fine tune it. I asked him which ones they were, and I looked them up in my phone.

One of them was called Natruim Muriaticum and it came back as "Table Salt". I looked up at him and said "this one says it's table salt". He said "Yes, can you believe that?" I said I'm not taking that one. He got a little defensive and preferred I don't look everything up and leave it to him blah blah blah. I paid him cash money and I wasn't going to leave there being told to eat table salt. I did get another one which I took but only helped a very tiny bit (probably the placebo effect).

Not at all. This is actually what cured me around last summer. I saw a youtube video of a woman being cured of panic attacks and bad anxiety by a chiropractor due to the C1 Axis which is the first vertebrae on the top of the neck that gets bent out of shape and cuts off blood from a nerve going to the brain stem causing anxiety, depression, panic attacks and insomnia. I was cured over several adjustments, and the first one was like night and day. I've since sent two people there with the same symptoms who he found had the same problem and were also cured.

Lol
The things people will fall for cracks me up.
Chiropractor curing anxiety is great!

They may have been "cured" but it had nothing to do with chiropractic treatment.

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Why did you insist in getting another treatment from the guy who was pushing table salt on you?

And if you believed his second treatment recommendation is worth taking, why didn’t you follow his first recommendation of table salt?

I Googled Chiropractic and Anxiety and the first 40 articles show that it absolutely works. They were all written by Chiropractors.

If a person thinks it works, I guess it works.

Let's face it - like 10% of chiropractic works and the rest is pseudoscience.

I had a landlord who was a very successful chiropractor. When he found out I was (half) Jewish, he said that explained why he'd had a good feeling about renting to me, as he'd been a rabbi in a previous life.

And there're a lot of terrible religious leaders that prey on the fact that it's impossible to monitor every interaction they have with desperate people. Wouldn't it be fantastic if we had a better way to filter out the turds? That's what the ND (naturopathic doctor) designation is supposed to accomplish and yet IME the graduates from those schools are horrible, they come out with huge debt and not much in terms of a legitimate path to paying off their debt much less make a comfortable living. So instead of providing care to a large number of clients, they skim their social networks for people with the right combination of disposable income and naivety and clamp down on them for as much as they can.

There're conflicts of interest for MDs too but their earning capacity is so much greater that the temptation for fraud is significantly reduced.

Naturopaths in my jurisdiction are scam artist flim flammers.

He wasn't pushing it. It was one of a few that were under consideration. I was there out of desperation, I wanted to get better, so I preferred another substance other than simple table salt. But that was only the beginning.

The way I was instructed to take my remedy in itself had me scratching my head pretty hard. The remedy I ended up with was called Arsenicum album. The way it's prepared is he takes a vile of small sugar pill balls, probably 100 of them. He takes an eye dropper of the remedy, and puts maybe 25 drop in the bottle of small sugar balls (about a quarter the size each of a tic tack). The way I was instructed to take the remedy is mind blowing in itself.

It was called the 5 cup method. You take 5 cups of water, about 6oz ea. You put one small ball (sugar ball that was mixed with a few drops of the remedy) in the first cup. You stir it 10 times. You take the spoon out, and put it in the next cut, and stir it 10 times. Then you take it out an put it in the next one, stir 10 times until you do it to the 5th cup. Now, remember, the tiny little remedy ball was only in the first cup. You then discard the first 4 cups (spill them out in the sink), and you put the 5th cup in the refrigerator and that's the one you use. You take a teaspoon per day. I'm not making this stuff up at all. This is the world of homeopathy.

How many times did you do this?

Thought he might have been ****ing with you but plenty of 5 cup videos on YouTube...