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Owe a friend some money, is this payment justified? Owe a friend some money, is this payment justified?

01-15-2009 , 05:47 PM
Because this thread is winding down, I'm going to jack it.

Let's say you are getting $20/day on your college ID card to be used for food only, as a result of your apt not being ready and being forced to live in a hotel. Using this $20/day, you buy yourself and your girlfriend breakfast, starbucks, and lunch every day.

At night, you go to your girlfriends apt bc your hotel sucks, smells bad, and you can't have sex since your roommate is also living in that room. (You are not paying for the hotel btw) At her place, you cook dinner with food she paid for at the grocery store, mainly just sides like mac-n-cheese since you bought omaha steaks at the beginning of the year, but occasionally full meals.

Should you be splitting the cost of dinner groceries with your girlfriend? Or does your paying for breakfast and lunch make up for it? Does it matter that the $20/day is 'free'?

Oh and any $$ not used per day gets rolled over. When you finally do move into your apt any remaining funds are zeroed. You plan on raiding the convenience store on campus before then though with whatever money you have left to buy TP, soap, laundry detergent, bottled water, and a year's supply of reese's fast break bars.

ggoogogogog discuss.
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01-15-2009 , 05:54 PM
JL514, start a thread iyam
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01-15-2009 , 06:10 PM
didnt read all the replies but how did you refer him if he was the one who signed up first?
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01-15-2009 , 06:13 PM
skipped the thread, where can I vote "douche"?
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01-15-2009 , 06:19 PM
if he really flipped out after suggesting to split the referral i would have told him to f off.
It seems like there are bigger issues than this $75 though.
Expecting to have the full 150 wiped away is almost as crazy.
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01-15-2009 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JL514
When people say split the referral fee and owe $75, we are not suggesting OP physically gets the $75 from the referral fee, hands it back to his 'friend' and says 'okay my debt is now at $75'.

We are saying exactly what you are suggesting, but with less words and more common sense implied.
Then why not say he (friend) keeps the referral fee and OP owes $75?

I wasn't talking about who hands money to who, but it seemed like some suggestions implied the friend was supposed to consider his $75 share as partial payback of the loan.

edit edit nevermind

Last edited by Bostaevski; 01-15-2009 at 06:58 PM.
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01-15-2009 , 06:58 PM
It is very obvious that this needs to be discussed before you do the referral thing if you want it to count for anything.
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01-15-2009 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NANONUTS
didnt read all the replies but how did you refer him if he was the one who signed up first?
i think he told the gym his friend referred him. So the gym credited $150 to the friend's account.
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01-15-2009 , 07:01 PM
I always think people like the OP are made up, and only in like movies or whatever. But I guess I'm wrong. Nice to know society has so many great people.
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01-15-2009 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Handey
I can't stand cheap people. It makes me real mad when someone says something like, "Hey, when are you going to pay me that $100 you owe me?" or "Do you have that $50 you borrowed?" Man, quit being so cheap!
Haha wicked gimmick.
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01-15-2009 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by benjamin barker
If you owe your friend money and are spending lots of cash on extra things you don't need before paying your friend back, that's kind of scummy to me.
I agree. However my read in this situation was that the OP didn't think he owed him money, which makes him cheap, but he isn't actively trying to scam him, which would make him scummy. That being said I have changed my mind and op is officially scummy after this.
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Originally Posted by hitmenotone
I may not pay him anything because of this and we may no longer be friends. He said I'm cut off, lol.
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01-15-2009 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
You owe him $150. I'd also re-examine where my life went this wrong....
Got me to laughing when I just had read this far. Thanks for the laugh, Henry.

Yes, of course hitmenotone still owes the full $150. That's a separate deal.

A favor done for a friend should be done without expectation of a monetary reward. If you're really friends, perhaps the friend will find a way to repay the favor. But the favor, like a good deed, is a gift, done out of pure amity.

Buzz
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01-15-2009 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by benjamin barker
In fact, I think it's a pretty safe bet that at no point will you ever open your wallet and even give him the $150 that you owe him.
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Originally Posted by hitmenotone
I may not pay him anything because of this and we may no longer be friends. He said I'm cut off, lol.
Psychic much ?
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01-15-2009 , 10:22 PM
so people would say their friend referred them and really not think that $75 should be theirs? this is mind boggling.
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01-15-2009 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by runner4life7
so people would say their friend referred them and really not think that $75 should be theirs? this is mind boggling.
it would be pretty standard for the friend to give $75 to the OP after the referral. It would have been a much smarter thing to ask first.

"yo dude, want me to refer you so you get $150 then we split it?"

but it's a totally separate issue to the other debt and the initial expectation for the $150 to wipe the entire loan was ridiculous.

tbh I think OP's friend is also a douche for flipping out at the request to split it (which is reasonable).

conclusion: they are both cheap douches paying $150 per/month for a gym membership. nice lives.
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01-15-2009 , 10:30 PM
1) Just ship the $150

2) Gotta admit it does look like a nice gym. http://www.equinoxfitness.com/

3) I dont go to a gym so i dont know if its worth $150 a month. What's the accepted monthly for a gym membership?
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01-15-2009 , 10:33 PM
what lol why did u not figure this out BEFOREHAND
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01-15-2009 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanDyer
what lol why did u not figure this out BEFOREHAND
It was all an elaborate passive aggressive plan to get out of paying.
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01-15-2009 , 10:58 PM
Wait so you both decided to ask 2+2 and yet you were the one that had to write the post? Your friend is clearly taking advantage of you. The time you spent on this thread is worth at least 25 cents so in fact thats what he owes you at this stage.
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01-16-2009 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by hitmenotone
I already talked to my friend about it. We agreed that I would post on here to find out the resolution.

He thinks I'm a scumbag and has said that he will never bet with me again.

I have payed him every single time I have owed him money. I even payed him this time as my total debt was $250. I gave him $100 and told him about this conflict.

I am not a scumbag and I really think he is. I just asked him about splitting the referral and only owing $75 and he completely flips out. IMO, this is uncalled for as he doesn't even give thought to chopping the referral and believes it is all his since he signed up first. What a bastard.

I may not pay him anything because of this and we may no longer be friends. He said I'm cut off, lol.
I suggest returning to gym and canceling membership. If you can do this his referral will also be canceled. Also don't pay him back. By doing this you ensure nobody benefits from your actions, your reputation is damaged, and you guys ruin your friendship. You have now monkey donked up a simple life situation and can move on to your next drama.
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01-16-2009 , 12:59 AM
how much earlier than you did the friend sign up at the gym?
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01-16-2009 , 01:01 AM
You know what you should do? You should cancel your membership, pay him the $150, then sign up again without any referral. That will teach him a lesson for sure!
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01-16-2009 , 01:24 AM
The two posts pudge has made pretty much sum up my thoughts.
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01-16-2009 , 01:53 AM
You deciding to not be friends with him anymore because he flipped out should have ZERO effect on whether or not you pay him. You paying him back is not doing him a favor. He loaned you money. You owe him that money. Just because you decide you're not friends anymore doesn't mean you still don't owe him the money. They are completely different things.

Cut off the friendship with him if you want. But you still have to pay him the money back and you even thinking about not paying him back just because he acted like a prick makes you quite the prick.

Somebody please tell me these guys are exceptions in NYC.
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01-16-2009 , 06:02 AM
From what I understand he didn't borrow money, he lost a bet. He isn't not paying back, he's welching. Not to say it's any better..but anyways.

How OP can not make an arrangement BEFORE giving him the referral, I'll never understand. Stupid, stupid, stupid. If the money mattered that much to be and my friend wouldn't give me half the referral, I'd spite sign up without one or ask another customer walking by if they want to refer me for a few bucks.
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